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1  Theology / Debate / Re: The new Bloodshed on: November 27, 2007, 09:55:43 AM
I agree with you Roger,

Perhaps I am not affected by games and movies because I study the Word and believe God to be the highest authority, so video games and such are nothing but entertainment to me. But if someone does not have the wisdom of God or teachings from the bible and is always told that God isn't important, then he would have no moral code to hold on to, especially if life becomes hard and he/she doesn't know what they can do to make it better.  Sad

It is most unfortunate that in many schools in north America Christian values are nearly impossible to represent, so the only thing that seems to be open is to live by example and try to make a difference that way. But if people don't want to listen to the Truth, than they can't be surprised if it has no effect on their lives. Sad

Nerobyrne  Roll Eyes
2  Theology / Debate / Re: The new Bloodshed on: November 17, 2007, 10:22:52 AM
Well,

I believe that everything you have said is true....There are definitely games that will provoke violent thoughts. My intention was not to say that they do not, or that children should be playing the,.

I only wanted to point out that we can;'t blame games for things that people do. They made the choice to play those games, and they did so because they already enjoyed violence. That is why i am certain that removing these games will not stop school shootings, albeit it may be a good idea to ban at least some of the really bad ones. I just get kind of annoyed when everyone tries to blame things like games, music and hobbies for these actions, because that accomplishes nothing and gets us nowhere. I haven't heard about a lot of programs to reduce bullying, and many teachers reportedly ignore complaints of harassments simply because it is to troublesome. frankly, if we cannot accept that we have to change, not "the big bad video game companies", then i don't see any improvement in the future. Instead of avoiding people who we think might be deeply depressed, we should try to come alongside them and help them get out of this deep hole of abuse, or whatever it is that gets them down.

And let's face it, who profits from endless rants about negative influences of video games?Many many people have preached endless sermons over years on this subject, and so far nothing has changed. Because people still want them. Millions of people play them every day, and only a few odd cases turn out really bad, and sometimes they had no influence by games at all.
So not that I am trying to undermine you guys, or promote companies like Rock Star games......but I just don't get what the point is of ranting about things that won't change....



PS: I love your spell check system!
3  Theology / Debate / The new Bloodshed on: November 14, 2007, 02:21:06 PM
Hi,

I just recently read the latest news post about the finland shooting, and I was startled by a few things that were said.

Firstly, I have played DOOM for a few levels, and I can guarantee that nobody can hone any murderous skills playing that game. It is so far removed from reality, not to mention the gameplay is completely unrealistic.

But that apart, I do realize that there are certain people who are unable, or should be banned from playing these games because of their mental state, but I am most certain that just because of these few disturbed individuals, billion-dollar industries will NOT take any action to ruin their business. And while I am not supporting this, I do not support this, i know that nothing will be done about this from the side of the companies.

So once again, i am most certain that nobody can learn killing skills from playing DOOM...DOOM3 maybe, but that wasn't out yet in 1999. And i am certain that the triggers for these horrid deeds are much closer to home than some video games. I believe firmly that the columbine shooting as well as most others, although I am undertain about finland, are those around the people, most often bullies who tormented them, and the teachers who refused to do anything about it.

BUT the most important thing that we have to remember is that it was ultimately the person's own choice, and banning things that MAY be related to it will NOT solve any problems.We have to stop blaming neutral things and look to what we can do about this problem/ after all, should we stop buying things from remington sttel, just because some people were killed by their shotguns? Or should we ban certain brands of kitchen knives, because they were used by OJ simpson??
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