BigD Said:

If you do not want to get involved, then stay out of it entirely. The same goes for blackeyedpeas. When you do get involved, be prepared to defend what you say.

Yes, the "double dog dare" remark was childish. I knew that when I wrote it, and it was on purpose. However, in my youth  it was said if one wanted someone to "put up or shut up." It was issued as a challange. If one did not act on the double dog dare, that one was admitting defeat. You did not accept the double dog dare.

BigD,

This is getting more childish by the moment. Just for the record, we will become involved however we wish with total disregard for your agenda or what you may want or not want. We will post what we wish, argue what we wish, and not argue if we wish.  WOW! - you're sounding like a six year old.

Here's a news flash for you. Many of us don't post for the purpose of argument, especially the worst kind of arguments. The worst kinds of argument are for vanity, argument's sake, semantics, and other childish reasons that most mature Christians try to avoid.

However, there is no rule against this. If childish arguments are your cup of tea, drink up. In the meantime, you won't be making any rules that others must join you. Anyone who wishes to can post a message here and feel no obligation at all to involve themselves in a childish argument with you. If someone else wishes to to argue with you, they are most welcome to do so. If they don't wish to argue with you, they are most welcome to do whatever they want to with total disregard for what you want or don't want.

"Double-dog dare".     What will we hear next?  "Na, na, na, na, na".  

You really shouldn't wonder why many on the forum won't engage in discussions with you. WOW!    I still love you brother.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Isaiah 30:21  And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

If you dont like it dont read it we arent making you.

Its still a link no matter how you look at it.

[NOT]

Big D again my words have been twisted.  
To address a couple things.

What is a "dispensatist"? Not familiar with the word. I will admit to be one that is called a "dispensationalist."

Sry about that apparently I cant spell maybe i should type this on Word and use spell check.  I am also a dispensationalist and being one I have to look at what the Hebrew says when Peter says in the last days and the definition is afterwards, later.  Your totally right about some parts of Joel as I said earlier 30,31 are talking about the tribulation im not arguing that with you its the reason why Peter is saying it that we mainly disagree.  So one more time ill say it.  Peter is talking about what to come he quotes Joel for two reasons:  One is because the Jews used the OT so they'd know what he is talking about.  Second he was saying holy spirit is being poured on us like Joel prophesyed and that the Tribulation will be coming soon NOT that the tribulation has begun.  he said "they will prophesy"  Thats future tense meaning that people will begin prophesying the end of days aka as the tribulation meaning that it will happen later and that we should be ready.  He's talking in future tense not present so therefore the tribulation did not start in acts or any time around there.

Finally someone with a link...and more backup.

Of course.  And if heaven had a kitchen im sure they would have female angels but hey they never went hungry so that idea can be thrown out.  

yeah i know my grammer sucks but hey i dont care so why should you guys.  if you want to spend time correcting it go right ahead. Maybe i should stay awake in English that might be a plan but hey that would require listening to people discuss a person turning into a cockroach.  Hmmm...i think ill take the sleep.

We werent arguing about any of those topics what are you talking about???  That was totally random.  Big D you never responded to my post so i can only believe that you have no argument and that i am right.  HAHA. VICTORY.

Shrek,

This is childish and represents a harsh example of exactly what I was talking about just before this post.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Romans 2:11  For there is no respect of persons with God.

Psalms 19:14  Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

1 Timothy 6:4-6  He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. But godliness with contentment is great gain.

Guess what i dont care.  SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT.  IM HAVING FUN WITH THIS. HA!!!

bep:
What you quoted above is what I posted to GreenWeaver. I doubt very much that he will be back either. Why? Because he CAN'T show me what I requested. Evidently he doesn't want me to change my views. As I have often said, I am still in the learning mode.

It will be pretty hard to be an adversary with you because you will not defend what you write. At least sherk and I defend our postions. Is there anything wrong with that?

i totally agree for once with that last comment.  Sry i couldnt respond ive been preoccupado with work and la eschuela.  

Dainel 9 does not specificly say that a peace treaty must be signed PRIOR to the beginning of the Tribulation. It does state that one will be signed and broken in the middle.

I do believe that there will be a peace treaty signed very shortly after the Tribulation is resumed.

If you will SHOW ME from Scripture that Jeol, in 2:28-32 is not speaking of the Tribulation, and/or Peter in Acts 2:15-20 doesn't know where he is in the prophetic time clock, THEN I WILL ADMIT THAT YOU HAVE VICTORY. HAHA

I have requested the above from other, and they still have not shown me what I requested. Even PROMISED to change my views if they did. So, if you wish for me to change my views - SHOW ME

The reasons that I participate in these forum discussions are twofold. It is to learn, to have my knowledge of the Bible broadened, and to express my views as to what I believe the Bible teaches on various subjects.

As I have stated earlier, I am still in the learning mode.

Okay im not going to even say anything with the Daniel thing because Bronzesnake basically said it all and it just be repeating.  The fact is Daniel says after the treaty there will tribulation.  He may not come out and say this is the tribulation but since he's mentioning the antichrist we know that that is what he is talking about and along with that he said there will be seven years afterwards.  How many years in the tribulation? 7 not 8 and not 7 and 1 day.  7 years therefore the tribulation couldnt start in Acts when Peter was talking because of course the treaty was not there.  Peter was also saying here this is what happened Joel says that the Holy Spirit will be poured out on believers.  And the wrath for nonbelievers.  Anyway where is the antichrist? I know i asked earlier but i never got a response for the tribulation to occur the antichrist must be present which he is not and there cant be two different antichrists and two different times there is no bibical ref. that can possibly support that idea.  With Joel 2:28-32.  I already told you that 28-29 are bascially what is happening now with the Holy Spirit coming down.  And then 32 happens to do with the believer aka the remnant.  So you cant use the verses to support the tribulation occuring. So lets look at 30,31.  I do believe those are going to occur during the tribulation and will precede the Second Coming.  There is no problem with that as i can see it but the thing to ask is why did Peter say it in Acts.  Peter said it because this marked the last dispensation of grace kinda like what you said earlier or as others put is the God's final act of salvation but the difference between you and me on this thing is that i believe and through different commentaries know that they are talking about an age and Peter is saying that these things will occur at the end of this dispensation he's not refereing to now hes refering to the tribulation which will occur much later after the rapture.    And he says "and they shall prophesy" vs. 18  that just means that you should be ready for it because everyone is letting you know thats it's coming.  Here's a new way of putting it Peter just pushed start on the countdown from now to the tribulation.  I hope this helps eventhough it may be confusing.

yes i have. i personally believe it was whipped away by the flood.

Well its the main part of salvation and if you dont believe in him as God himself then first your not believing the Bible because he even says he is like when he was in the garden.  And also then your destroying a big part of Christianity by rejecting the concept of the Trinity

coughmenarebettercough.  jk.

both.  the trinity is one of the concepts that its more faith then anything.  You might as well not try to comprehend it.

On January 19th of this year Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allowed the
first death sentence to be served in three years, and the first under
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.  

Dissapointing  there has only been 1 out of 3.  I hope Scotty P. kicks the bucket soon...sry people if that offends you but he's a bad man.

Ohhh....im sorry i dont take the time to edit my posts for spelling.  Why...hmmm dont care.   There ya go im one of those people who would be brilliant if he applied himself and now im just smart because i sleep all the time.   Just because youve been here longer doesnt mean your not wrong.  Its like saying old people are smarter because they been alive more. I would disagree im smarter then so many old people.

HAHA...this forum is wack...gollum is a hobbit not troll.

Technically there is.  Matthew 12:32 is the unforgivable sin.  "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."
My view isnt the most stable on this subject but im leaning to not apply to Christians.