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Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:USA in prophecy?
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on: January 05, 2005, 01:58:48 PM
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FayeC
If you could explain what you think that scripture prove it would be helpful because the hosts and the stars would clearly refer to angels not earthy things and in verse 11 it says, "It even magnified itself to be equal with the Commander of the host; and it removed the regular sacrifice from him, and the place of his sanctuary was thrown down. " daniel 8:11 this is clearly refering to Lucifer's fall taking some of the stars or angels with him, he was the leader of worship in heaven before his fall, thus the removal of the sacrifice. Satin stood against God the comander of the Hosts and grew in pride. this is not an end time prophicy in my opinion and even if it where interprested that way the US is not to the N.W. of Isreal that would refer to the EU ( european union is directly north west of jerusalem so why would that refer to the US )
God bless you all richly and give you exceding wisdom and knowledge in all things love through Christ
elear2787
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Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:USA in prophecy?
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on: January 05, 2005, 01:43:43 PM
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I openly admitt that I am not as well learned in prophicy as I should like, I am only seventeen years old but reading some of the above posts I cannot help but relay to all of you something that has been sering in my mind the past few weeks. It is not a perfect match for the convo but I think it is close enough that it will add to the discussion. I love history, specifically U.S. History and something I have learned is that the puritains have been arguably the biggest factors in our national identity. The puritain Ideaolgy of self examination and expossing wrongs so that they may be corrected is still obvious in the american mindset. I could alaberate more if it is so desired but for now I digress. The puritains left europe not to seperate from the body of Christ but move away from the corruption and set up an example in a virgin wilderness. "A City on a Hill" they believed that if they came to this wilderness they could set up a perfect Christian sociaty that would undoughtedly prove to all nations what true Christians look like and thus be a witness and example to all. the above is fact to the best of my knowledge here is where I step out on faith in what I believe to be devine revalation. I believe that when Christians step in faith as ordered by God and verbalise what I believe to be a prophetic word that America will be a city on a hill it must come to pass because when God speaks it is as good as done, it comes into existence with his speach. I believe that when the puritains came to america it was paralell to Abraham coming out of his land to go to a new land and create a new nation. I believe that there is a prophetic statement made by our ancestors centuries ago that God will honor for their sakes even though it has been forgotten for generation. I understand that it is arguable that this has been fulfilled already but I think that it has not yet been fulfilled to it's potential, I would say that we have been a city on a hill politically and in other areana's through history but I believe that we have yet to become the whitness of true christian sociaty that was prophicied over this nation by our ancestors. I think that befor the end there will be an awekening of the church in America to an extent that noone has ever seen and I think that this is the generation that will complete it. I believe that before the end this nation will become a spiritual lite to the world. the scripture says that there will be 5 virgins tha are ready for his coming and 5 that are not, personally I don't see 5 virgins that have all the oil ( spirit ) that they need. I do not believe that Christ will return for a sad devided and defeated bride but ofr a glorious bride that is in love with Him. I believe that before the end ther will be revival that will start here in america and spread to the world a revival that will make the great awekening look small and weak. It is not a matter, to me, of surviving to the time that I see Christ return but instead a time for a great offencive for prayer and reclaiming of the heritage that this nation has, the promise that is over it. This has been constantly on my mind and my writting probably can't justify the reality of what I am thinking but I would love to hear you opinions as to weather I could be correct in my thinking. please do not take offence at anything I say, assume I misspoke and ask me for I never intend to offend anyone.
God Bless all of You and God Bless America
Elear2787
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