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Theology / Debate / Re:Why don't we call for the president to stop killing IRAQI babies?
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on: November 26, 2004, 04:20:25 PM
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You seem to be good at making assumptions, so allow me to correct you.
1.) I am not an American, but rather a Canadian
2.) I linked you to a survey, and additionally a survey was conducted in Canada as to who Canadians would vote for, It was some 70% for Kerry. I have also seen other worldwide polls, which I don't have links to at the moment, however they have all indicated that Kerry is supported overwhelmingly. A poll was conducted in Britain (your ally) as to what percentage of people approve of America. There was something like a 14% approval rating. I realize that you either love or hate Bush, he is very popular in rural America, but keep in mind that the higher educated the census, the more popular John Kerry is.
3. The death toll is approximately 100'000, the Lancet is a respected non partisan academic journal. The media is critisized for being liberal, however Fox News is owned by the cousin of GWB.
Going into iraq was a mistake, plain and simple. Intelligence now reports that Iraq had no wmd's nor did they have any desire to attack america. Remember Saddam is a sunni muslim, whereas Bin Laden, is a shi'ite. Imagine the catholic vs protestant rivalry multiplied 10 fold, Osama, not only didn't care for Saddam, he outright hated him. Remember Iraq is enemies with Iran, and Saddam thought that the United States would side with him.
Preemptive strike is a dangerous issue. Even if Iraq had Al-Quaeda members in it, so do 60 other countries, including Canada. Destabilizing the middle east, will only gotcha8 more people off and as a result create more terrorists.
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Theology / Debate / Re:Killing animals for fashion?!
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on: November 26, 2004, 04:06:26 PM
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Well in terms of health you have to categorize meats, because in terms of nutrition all meats are not created equal. Pigs for example, who are smarter than both dogs and horses (interesting fact) are quite unhealthy. Fish on the other hand, for the most part is a very healthy meat to eat. But if you look at it from a global point of view. Cattle consume approximately 60% of the worlds freshwater supply. Which is somewhat contradictory, because if you value human life over the lives of animals, as most do, one would think that that water should be shipped to the third world countries, where clean water is not available. The ration of energy consumed/ produced with cows, is something like 90/1. Meaning that we are losing a substantial amount of energy.
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Theology / Debate / Re:Killing animals for fashion?!
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on: November 26, 2004, 11:53:49 AM
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Just because scripture says you can eat meat, doesn't mean that you have to, if health reasons indicate not eating meat would be beneficial, why not?
Edited because of Evoultionary theory, is not allowed. DW
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Theology / Debate / Re:Why don't we call for the president to stop killing IRAQI babies?
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on: November 26, 2004, 03:50:12 AM
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I will play devil's advocate. The fact is, the rest of the world, Canada, EU, Arab Countries, you name it despises the United States. Obviously America is a prosperous country, however if the Kerry v Bush election was worldwide, Kerry would have won with 70% of the vote, you can disagree with me on this but you would be incorrect. http://members1.chello.nl/~a.horlings/doc-polls.htmlAdditionally, there have been approx 100'000 iraqi civilian casualties, this is not an opinion this is a fact http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1338749,00.htmlThose guys were trolls, and they weren't christian, but in all fairness, many actual christians oppose the war, and I do not feel that it is unchristian to question wars of this nature.
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Fellowship / For Men Only / Re:Lust
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on: November 26, 2004, 01:58:52 AM
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You can't really blame Maxim, FHM, Playboy, MTV or any other media outlet. If you give into temptation, and I don't care what religion you are including atheist/agnostic, you have no one to blame but yourself. As far as christian theology goes, don't blame Satan if you give into temptation, he is just offering you an alternative.
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Theology / Debate / Re:Killing animals for fashion?!
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on: November 26, 2004, 01:49:22 AM
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Do you place atheists, muslims, buddhists, rastafarians etc on the same level as animals, because they do not have a relationship with the Christian God?
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Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:A reason to vote for President Bush
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on: November 26, 2004, 01:47:40 AM
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The taking of innocent lives, whether a cause of alcohol, narcotics or abortion, it is all the same ..... murder. Murder accomplished by irresponsible people doing irresponsible acts looking for a way to deal with their sinful lives.
I agree with Sincereheart, a true Mother puts their children first just as a true Father would do.
Thank God I am the child of a True Father.
By your definition, Capital Punishment is murder, sure offenders on death row are for the most part not innocent, but state sanctioned murders are still murders. So I presume you are against capital punishment.
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Theology / Debate / Re:Why don't we call for the president to stop killing IRAQI babies?
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on: November 25, 2004, 09:02:10 PM
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I am against the war personally, because it has clearly destabilized the middle east during an optimum time for peace (Arafat's Death). As far as Israel/Palestine goes, I am not on either side, because in my opinion they both have a right to be there. I think Jesus, God, Mohammed and Allah would be happiest if the Israelis and Palestinians shared the land, and stopped the needless killing, however you guys may disagree with me on that one.
I am not a fan of Mr. Bush, although be noted I am not an American. When the war started I was for it, but from what I know now, I do not see how anyone can not admit it was a grave mistake. For your information Saddam attacked the Kurds in 1988 when George HW Bush, was in the middle of his presidency. The idea that we went to war to avenge the Kurds is quite frankly incorrect. We went because we thought Al Quaeda was linked with Saddam, and we thought they had WMD's, of course neither are true. However, I am glad Saddam is out, even though I do not think it was worth the price of 100'000 iraqi lives and 1300ish US lives. The only thing left is stabilizing Iraq, and continuing the fight against terrorist networks.
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Theology / Debate / Re:Killing animals for fashion?!
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on: November 25, 2004, 04:46:00 PM
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I realize in scripture it says that you can eat animals, call me blasphemous but I think the world would be a better place without meat eating, considering health and the amount of energy lost in meat production. In regards to eating vegetables, plants rely on being eaten, so that when we eliminate them, the seeds get planted in the soil. Whereas humans breed animals for the sole purpose of food, and I am not even getting into genetic modification, which is a whole new topic.
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Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:A reason to vote for President Bush
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on: November 25, 2004, 03:18:59 AM
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Like it or not, abortion will never be criminalized. And even if it were to be, the amount of abortions would not decrease. Just as an example, the sale of alcohol increased during prohibition. You have to be very careful when using the criminal law. If you criminalize abortion, black market abortion clinics will immediately pop up, and even if you are 100% pro-life, I am sure we can all agree that if abortions are to be performed, the safety of the mother should be paramount.
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Theology / Debate / Re:Killing animals for fashion?!
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on: November 25, 2004, 03:15:26 AM
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Personally, I feel that the world would be a better place if everyone became vegetarians. You can live a healthier lifestyle, and there are many non meat forms of protein, ie soy, whey. Personally, I do not feel humans are any more sacred than animals, since we too are animals. I know chimps are more intelligent than 6 month old babies, and I have a problem with killing intelligent animals.
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