This is the last this disgusting board sees of me. And for the last time, I don't have any clue who JitC is.

I think the problem here is that you have become stuck on proverbial books of Moron, or other people's interpretations of the Bible, rather than reading what it clearly says.

Where do you come up with the idea that Revelatoin is the only book we're supposed to read? Christ said to keep All he taught.

I have made severalposts about purely Christian things straight from the Bible. Examples would be about baptism and what the emaning of Christian is.

Yet in those same situations peopel haven't even attempted to discuss my posts, and simply said "You don't know what you're talking about."

Similarly, no one has discussed, and I doubt really even read, aside of one or two people, what I have posted on Bush & Kerry.

I don't advocate moving to eliminate government. I'm nto an anarchist. Yet if you look through the forums you'll find that's what I've been written off as, and the people who wrote me off do so to remain intellectually dishonest.

When this forum comes to mind, Mark six follows closely behind.

And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

I have nto even been given the forum, so to say, to seriously present my evidence and proof of their ideas and works and goals. My purpose is to awaken everyone as to what's really going on. Why? Because we shouldn't be a party to it, and so that people can wake up and get their lives in order.

We're incredibly close to the end. And if you doubt that, then at least take the time to test what I'm presenting.

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

My purpose is to reprove.

re·prove    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (r-prv)
tr.v. re·proved, re·prov·ing, re·proves
To voice or convey disapproval of; rebuke. See Synonyms at admonish.
To find fault with.

For example. Bush claims to be a Christian. Has anyoen ever noticed he NEVER mentions Christ? That Bush has only stated "god", as have all of our political leaders?

Take a look at the following list of things to dow ith Bush and his actions. They don't go deep into the political aspect, so much as they go into Bush's psiritual actions.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." [Matthew 7:16-20]

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/nz1086.htm

I'm sick of the criticisms of this board. I'm sick of the anti-Christian, Pharisetical attitude. And most of all, I'm sick of the complete disgrace you guys make to God.

I admit well that I haven't been doing all of the right things. I'll admit I've diliberatly done the wrong thing. But this repeated, caustic, sarcastic behavior is unaceptable.

I hope that Christ opens your eyes and your hearts, and that you are reminded, or informed for the first time, of the truth of what Christ preached, and how we are to act.

As Paul said, your blood be on your own heads.

[Dr. Carroll Quigley, Professor of International Relations, Georgetown University Foreign Service School, Washington, D.C., author of the epic "Tragedy & Hope", advocate of one-world government and personal mentor of President William Clinton (who acknowledged Professor Quigley during his 1992 presidential inauguration speech)]

Funny that you're quick to say that the EU is a great enemy, yet ignore the fact that the same people who set it up set up Not Only the UN, but the Council on Forign Relations, the Royal Institue of International Affaris, the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Reserve Bank (Which is Privatly owned, might I add), and have insitituted two of their 322 division members John F. Kerry and George W. Bush into the canadacy for President of the United States.

"The CFR [Council On Foreign Relations, New York City] is the American Branch of a society which originated in England and believes national directives should be obliterated and one-world rule established. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted in the early 1960's to examine its papers and secret records... I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known".
Dr. Carroll Quigley, Professor of International Relations, Georgetown University Foreign Service School, Washington, D.C., author of the epic "Tragedy & Hope", advocate of one-world government and personal mentor of President William Clinton (who acknowledged Professor Quigley during his 1992 presidential inauguration speech)

Edit: Let me add on to that quote with a few more.

"We shall have world government whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent".
James Paul Warburg, Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations, 1921 - 1932, before the U.S. Senate, February 17, 1950

"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas".
Brock Chisolm, former Director of the World Health Organization

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of US. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government".
Chester Ward, Rear Admiral and former Navy Judge Advocate 1956 - 1960 and CFR member for 15 years

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/video/260804alexwarns.WMV

July 25th, 2001

Lol. So now you're nto only trying to pin me as someone else, not only being a complete hypocrite, and not only predisposing yourself (Which is also unChristian), but you'e claiming I'm an anarchist!?

What is with the paranoia in this group? That's the thrid time I've been accused of being an old member here.

["The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists". J. Edgar Hoover, former head of the FBI]

American politics is so mature and sensible.

This slander and smearing is just stupid if you ask me, and Bush/Kerry are just two sides of the same coin.

WELL SAID!

Also, if you look back through history, you'll see several peopel "Arrested" and "Convicted" of "Major crimes" that they didn't commit.

I have testimony from peopel who were at the Oklahoma City Bombing, for example, that worked IN the building, who saw that the government was wheeling in mass amounts of missiles and the like of weaponry, which was not usual, prior to the attack.

They also say that two people were trying to warn everyone to stay away from the building on the day of the attack, and had found out federal imformation from a leaking source.

The day of the attack, one of the two, a man, was trying to help rescue people from inside, until two men in black took him aside and had what witnesses refer to as a "Heated arguement."

The next day on the news the man was reported dead among those killed in the initial explosion.

As well, officer Terry Yeakey was performing rescue mission, untilhe discovered something that blew him away. Terry had found evidance while performing the rescues that the agents at the building were lying to the public. Was it that he foudn bomb fragments on support pillars? How about that Timothy VcVeigh wasn't even there? Whatever the case, he called his wife in tears and told her the government was lying abotu everything.

Terry was to be given an award on May 11th the next year, but didn't make it.

"He was murdered on May 8,
1996, in the country - two and a half miles west of the El Reno
Penitentiary."

The official report said suicide.

"What appeared to be rope burns on
his neck, handcuff bruises to his wrists, and muddy grass imbedded in his
slash wounds strongly indicated that he had some help in traversing this
final distance.

The bullet's entrance wound was in the right temple, above the eye. It went
through the policeman's head and exited in the area of the left cheek, near
the bottom of the ear lobe line. The trajectory was from a 40-45 degree
angle above his head. There were no powder burns. No weapon was ever
reported as found at the scene, but independent investigators speculated
that had Yeakey shot himself with standard police issue - a Glock 9mm or a
.357 Magnum - his head would have been far more destroyed than it apparently
was."


The fact of no power burns is incredibly important, because teh explosive power woudl leave severe burns on the skin if held at the close proximity Suicide shooters hold the weapon at.

As well, who fires at themself from a downward angle?

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/yeakey.htm


"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists".
J. Edgar Hoover, former head of the FBI


The Real criminals are those in our governemnt.

Excerpt from teh series of papers "Flying Drugs to Costa Rica: Authorized by the US National Security Council."

So I went digging for verification, and found it in the archives of the Costa Rican legislative assembly (Asamblea Legislativa). A special commission had been appointed to investigate the facts concerning narcotrafficking in Costa Rica (Comision Especial Nombrada para Investigar los Hechos Denunciados Sobre Narcotrafico), and it issued its final report on July 20, 1989 in San Jose (Expediente 10.684, Informe Final, San Jose, 20 de Julio de 1989). It wasn't easy to find: they had buried the report down here also.


Excerpt from the series Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror

At the close of WWII, the U.S. Government helped thousands of Nazi war criminals escape justice, integrating them into its scientific/military/intelligence establishment. Reinhard Gehlen, Hitler's senior intelligence officer on the Eastern Front, and other high-ranking Nazis, were spirited out of Germany with the aid of the OSS and the Vatican, then installed in top-secret, sensitive posts in the U.S. and abroad.

Gehlen's SS officers had been instrumental in the mass extermination of Gypsies and Jews, and Gehlen was personally responsible for the torture, interrogation, and murder by starvation of some 4 million Soviet prisoners of war.

http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt_11.htm

As one of CORU's members explained in a CBS interview, "We use the tactics that we learned from the CIA because we — we were trained to do everything. We are trained to set off a bomb, we were trained to kill… we were trained to do everything."[1161]

The mastermind of the bombing, Orlando Bosch, responsible for more than 50 anti-Castro bombings in Cuba and elsewhere, was released from prison at the behest of George Bush's (Sr.) son, who has strong ties to both the Cuban expatriate community and the Contras.

As Vice-President, Bush (Sr.) also headed the Task Force on Combating Terrorism. Proudly displaying his condemnation of terrorism, Bush pardoned Bosch, giving him special permission to live in Miami

|||||GEORGE BUSH|||||
was the first CIA man to be elected President. An FBI cable places him as a CIA agent in Dallas during the JFK hit. He was also involved in CIA-sponsored anti-Castro warfare, using his oil company as a cover. In 1976, as Gerald Ford's DCI, he helped cover up the Letelier assassination. For eight years, as Vice President, he was the top man in Reagan's covert ops chain of command. He coordinated plans to round up US dissidents in concentration camps and, while the first Drug Czar, supervised CIA cocaine smuggling. Closely tied with Nazis and the Mob, he and his family helped loot the S&Ls. His father was a close friend of CASEY.
Like HELMS, he is a member of the Skull and Bones secret society.

http://www.subliminal.org/mugbook/spooks/index.html

Hm. Just conspiracy theroy!?

[Bush "This would be much easier if I were a dictator."http://www.infowars.com/Video/bush-dictator.mpg]

So again you're showing me that you're not Christian. This kind of action andd attitude is the kind of thing I expect from atheists.

"Conspiracy theorists of the world unite!"

Watch this, it's a guy on CNN talking about the New World Order.

http://www.infowars.com/Video/nwo/CNN-NWO(high).ram


"Oh, it's just conspiracy."

Kerry "There are a lot of secret things I'm not allowed to talk about."
http://www.infowars.com/Video/kerry.WMV


"There's no proof of what they say is happening. It's all just insanity and theroy."

We are controlled by the government.

When this nation was designed it wsa to be "By the people, for the people." The definition of a Republic is basically like a really organized public vote on issues. Today we are under Totalitarianism with the veil of Democracy.

|||Totalitarianism: “ ... imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed -- The American Heritage Dictionary|||

Our two presented main choices for President have the exat same agenda, and are third cousins. People are being jailed every day. Gun laws are being cracked down on. Military troops now train with state and local police just as Hitler orderded his men to do.

"Patriotism" is at level highs, just as it was in Germany. People look at our soldiers as heroes and freedom fighters, people who aim to make the world better, just as people in Germany looked on their own; Until it went bad.

We have no freedom but that which we make, and that of our souls.

Aren't we supposed to be taking out dictators?

Oh that's right, it's our history to put them in power.

Here's a showing of Bush's true desire.

Bush "This would be much easier if I were a dictator."
http://www.infowars.com/Video/bush-dictator.mpg

|||Fully ten days before the 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington DC, the Houston Chronicle had already run its chilling story under the banner headline, “Danger Zone: Justice Department Looking More Like Secret Police.” The Chronicle expressed its outrage over John Ashcroft’s attacks on two journalists, Vanessa Leggett and John Solomon.

“The Justice Department must immediately stop its attempts at threatening and intimidating journalists and writers,” said Ray Marcano, president of the Society of Professional Journalists and managing editor of the Dayton (Ohio) Daily News. “Someone at Justice needs to be held accountable for these outrageous acts.”

Just Conspiracy Theroy!?


More here
http://www.ballotpaper.org/archives/000740.html#more|||

##################Marchers at political convention treated like enemy combatants##################
http://infowars.com/oct04/littleguan.htm

##################Operatoin TIPS - To hire your cable guy, mail man, truck drivers, and other civil ervice workers to spy on You##################
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jul2002/tips-j22.shtml

##################Civil Rights Activist Webmaster Jailed and Lynched in the Media as a Terrorist Supporter##################
http://news.phaseiii.org/article3180.html

##################Bush's Police State Acts, The SS Confronting High School Students##################
http://www.ballotpaper.org/archives/000740.html#more

Further examples of the PATRIOT Act being used to hold citizens
http://infowars.com/print/patriot_act/examples.htm

Speaking of dictators
Hear what Arnold has to say.
UPDATE (10/03/03)
The full story on Arnold Schwarzenegger, the Self-proclaimed Wannabe Dictator

In a 1976 interview for Rolling Stone magazine, Arnold said he dreamed of being a dictator and controlling large groups of people....
http://infowars.com/print/nwo/exclusive_arnold.htm


BRIGHT SIDE

Nader speaks out
http://www.infowars.net/Pages/Oct_04/071004_nader_bones.html

Ralph Nader speaks about how the two political parties are controlled and have the same mind. He talks about how both are goverened and funded by the same corporate powers.


Dark side
Two bills now on the floor for a National ID card with eletronic functions to keep track of All data about you, to be combined with "Homeland Security" files.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/october2004/041004nationalids.htm

You're only further driving yourself into a self-righetous, intellectually lazy state. Do you even realize that you accusedme there of being a typical, uneducated Christian with no zeal?

The verse that comes to mind is Judge not, lest ye be judged. Whiel hat may nto fit entirely in thsi conext, the point of the matter is that you're taking steps to assume something about me because ihave challenged your doctrine.

Oh, dirty wrod? Your "religious" stance is that belief in Christ is the only key to salvation. That IS Doctrine.

Doctrine isn't an evil word.

The fact of the matter is that I'm doing what Christ commanded me, and I'm observing his teachings; That IS what a Christian is.

Don't try to equate somethign that Christ specifically indicated as a part of his ministry with the doctrine of man like Catholocism's confessions or Judaism's law.

You have been taken in by those who are preaching a doctrine that is another, and is not.

You aer subjecting yourself to views of universe equality in belief; of lack of rebuking or chastizing. Christ specifically taught against such things.

Do you also promote homosexuality as Godly? I mean no assumptive point by that, but it woudl help to explain stance on this arguement.


By the way, in another of your assumptions it seems you're claiming I'm someone you knew from this forum. Therefore you're predisposing yourself toward me, another action you should check yourself on.

Christianity isn't a religion, liek the religions of the world, and it doesn't begin and end at the building doors.

Again I see people, the same people, nonetheless, supporting an praising those who agre with them, and bashing recklessly those who state disagreeing opinions.

Let me make it clear; Bush is a warmongerer. Kerry will be no different ont hat aspect. Bothhave already stated plans to invade Iran next. Syria, Lybia, North Korea, and Thailand have also been mentioned.

God is not going to bless this entire country. It's timeto wake up, people. We are New babylon.

If Bush is Christian, why would he pull This stunt?
http://www.tbtmradio.com/geeklog/public_html/index.php

It's a deceptive and dishonorable practice to release information as such. And on top of that, it's sad to disallow free speech otherwise.

If Bush was a Christian, why would he be holding Sherman Austin in prison, and have had the court give the sentence that if he Didn't plead guilty and sever 1 year in prison with 3 years afterward disallowed to use digital devices, he wouldbe held up to Twenty Years under the PATRIOT Act?

Sherman Austin was a rights activist who made public his opinions on Bush, and supplied proof of Bush's misdealings.

When someone posted a link to a site describing how to make a homemade bomb, the government slapped the cuffs on Sherman, who had nothing to do with the writing fo the article, and hauled him away. As well, they insinuated that Sherman had written the document, and had the media play Sherman as a terrorist.

If having a link to a website describing how to make a homemade bomb is illegal, then everyone at Ebay should be arrested, as links and Books for Sale Abound on the website.

A full article
http://news.phaseiii.org/article3180.html

Other examples of use of the PATRIOT Act tos ilence critics
http://infowars.com/print/patriot_act/examples.htm

Operation TIPS - Government recruiting of oyour mail man, cable guy, truckers, etc to spy on YOU
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jul2002/tips-j22.shtml


If Bush was a Christian, why would he have been smiling during the events of September 11th? Why would he have done nothing as the planes came in, when there is public record of his knowledge of the attacks Before even the "School incident" happened?

A chonological timeline of events and video from September 11th, 2001
http://www.tbtmradio.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20040606205339801



||||||Marches at Republican Convention Treated Like Terrorists||||||

""The conditions of my arrest were pretty appalling," says Maria Cincotta, a 26-year-old New York teacher who was arrested on Tuesday night of convention week near Union Square. "We were given no order to disperse. Had I been asked to leave, I would have in a second." When Cincotta complained to police that her plastic handcuffs were too tight—other arrestees’ hands turned blue—they replied with a boilerplate "Sorry, we can’t do that."
City officials converted a disused bus depot on the Hudson River’s Pier 57 into what detainees nicknamed "Little Guantánamo" for its outdoor setting and maze of pens divided by chain-link fencing. Numerous arrest victims reported being denied food and water or access to an attorney or a phone. ("Sorry, I can’t do that," police said.) Children, some who happened to be walking down the street when the cops arrested everyone present, were locked up for several days. Police refused to tell their frantic parents where they were. Adding to the misery was a resinous layer of gasoline and toxic cleansers coating the floor. "Everybody was laying in filth," said Cincotta. "

http://infowars.com/oct04/littleguan.htm


Bush and Kerry are both working for a group, they have a means toward a Satanic, Luciferian, Global government, Run by the descendants of Esau.

We are in the time of Revelation. There is a great deception occuring as we speak.

Do you want a person in power who will continue the bloody line American Presidents have left behind? Do you want to keep Bush in power, who not only had prior knowledge of September 11th, but possiblyhelped plan it? Who we know, Surely, ordered his men to Stand Down regarding 9/11, regarding when we had Osama Bin Laden trapped?

Do you want someone in power who we have proof is tied closely to the Bin laden family; Whose money trails lead right bck to Texas?

Do you want 1 year AWOL National Guard member Geroge Bush telling your sons and daughters what to do, all for the means of Satan's gain?

Do you want John Kerry as President, who shot himself in the foot during a war to get out of battle?

Do you want to continue to support corrupt office officials, Congressmen, Cabinet members, Cheifs of Staff, Supreme Court Justices, Forign Affairs Embassadors, who have stayed out of the wars this country has waged, and met every year wi Satanic gathering at Bohemian Grove on July 15th, for a ritual called Cremation of Care, in which they worship Satan before the stone owl Molech, the same Molech that babylon and Tyre worshipped?

Clip from a video done from infiltrating Bohemian Grove
http://www.prisonplanet.com/grove56k.ram

A webstie further detailing teh grove with pictures of Both Bushes, etc.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Grove.htm

Do you want to keep these people in office, in corporate power, who have been tratiors to the United States since day one? People who, when writing the Nation's Declaration fof Independance in the same year as the umbrella organiation The Illuminati was formed, Gorge Washington ackonwledged existed in our midst, and spoke worry of their ambitions?


Do you want to relelect deserters? Bush, Kerry, Dick Cheney, Tom Delay, Jeb Bush, Roy Blunt, Dennis Hassert, Larry Craig, Ronald Regan, Dan Quayle, Jack Kemp, John Ashcroft, Aurther Kennedy, Harvery Pitt, and my personal expose Rush Limbaugh.


A list of "Chickenhawks", US war deserters.
http://66.230.230.110/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20040602034902878

When people like Billy O'Reilly are looked upon as model news figures, it should be obvious it's time to take back the media.

O'Reilly "Rush has freedom of speech ya know", "Glick? Cut his mic."

http://www.tbtmradio.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20040610173242781


           They own the media.

                Take it back.

http://www.tbtmradio.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20040603235249605

It's sad that you both are so high-and-mighty at thsi point. You are examplifying exactly what Christ said in Isaiah.

Isa 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

The both of you are looking upon yourselves as righteous, and assuming what I do or don't know. In that same breath, you dismiss whatever I have said without considering it and without explanation to your dismissal.

You remind me more of atheists than Christians.

Am I wrong because I challenge what you have so long accepted?

2Cr 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

We are told to prove or teest ourselves, and to prove other things, and other people.

The information I have supplied I supply after having proven it to myself, and supply so that you can prove it, test it.

Yet you won't even take a look.

Surely that isn't the embracing nature fo Christ, and that isn't fellowship.

What on Earth (To steal a British phrase) are you on about?

Did you not just see that I posted directly from Christ's words?

Oh really? Show me what I did wrong?