Hi onebook, whew, that was long. I'm kind of weary here because Christians today are split into Sabbath keeping and Sunday worship, explaining a lot to make the point but I wish to stop. There are so many arguements with regards to these in this forum under a lot of topics, all are sincere and zealous about that, though I really want to continue and learn more, but I'm not a pastor nor a minister nor a teacher. I don't want to judge, takes sides and love less anyone who believes and translates the Bible differently from the other.

These are all the body of Christ. All were baptized in His name. All received the Holy Spirit and are sealed. All believed Jesus Christ sacrificed his sinless life once and for all for our sins. All believed He was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God and He became Flesh and dwelt among us. All are gifted in some areas or another in whatever the Holy Spirit wills.  

I'm just any regular guy who attends praise and worship on Sundays and worshipping God in my heart every day and every minute and every step I take and having faith in Him. I share the gospel to my unsaved officemate. Bring back those who fall off the body of Christ. Help people who needs my help. Forgave and made peace with my enemies and make amends with them no matter how much hurt I feel. I ask God immediately for forgiveness for  the sins that I've just done. Yes, I still sin. I'm not perfect.

Since I'm new to Bible study, I ask the Holy Spirit to teach me what He taught Paul, Matthew, Luke, etc. I ask the Holy Spirit to increase my faith, wisdom, and knowledge according to what He gave Elijah and Moses. I pray and ask that He may give me a prideless heart and a selfless heart so I can hear God's voice.

Everything I relay upon Jesus Christ. For He is my source of living a life what Christ intended for us to live.

Even before I type anything here, I ask the Holy Spirit to guide me for I lack the knowledge you guys posses and just refering to an online Bible for the verses - www.bible.com and a Bible I picked up from a Hotel. All I know is, to love God with all my heart, with all my soul, with everything, and to love my neighbor as I love myself.

God freed me from myself. I feel very happy and content with my life now. For I now have a purpose in life and a goal.

[(Heb., usually in plural, goyim), meaning in general all nations except the Jews. In course of time, as the Jews began more and more to pride themselves on their peculiar privileges, it acquired unpleasant associations, and was used as a term of contempt.In the New Testament the Greek word Hellenes, meaning literally Greek (as in Acts 16:1, 3; 18:17; Rom. 1:14), generally denotes any non-Jewish nation.]

H1471
גּי    גּוי
gôy  gôy
go'ee, go'-ee
Apparently from the same root as H1465 (in the sense of massing); a foreign nation; hence a Gentile; also (figuratively) a troop of animals, or a flight of locusts: - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.

Eph 2:18-20

18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone
KJV


I am not a gentile i am not foreigner, nor an animal,  nor locusts and i am not a heathen.

If you take it figuratively, yes. Animal or locusts.

But generally, it means and understood clearly by everyone is:

hyperdicationay.com

Gentiles Definition:      

(Heb., usually in plural, goyim), meaning in general all nations except the Jews. In course of time, as the Jews began more and more to pride themselves on their peculiar privileges, it acquired unpleasant associations, and was used as a term of contempt.

In the New Testament the Greek word Hellenes, meaning literally Greek (as in Acts 16:1, 3; 18:17; Rom. 1:14), generally denotes any non-Jewish nation.

and

Wikipedia.com

A Gentile refers to a non-Israelite; the word is derived from the Latin term gens (meaning "clan" or a "group of families") and is often employed in the plural. Christian translators of the Bible use this word to collectively designate the peoples and nations distinct from the Israelite people; the word is used that way over 130 times in the King James Version of the Bible, in both the Old and New Testaments. From the 17th century on this term was most commonly used to refer to non-Jews. In recent decades this use of the term has somewhat fallen out of favour, and "non-Jew" is typically used as a substitute.

and by Smith's Bible Dictionary

Gentiles: (nations). All the people who were not Jews were so called by them, being aliens from the worship, rites and privileges of Israel. The word was used contemptuously by them. In the New Testament it is used as equivalent to Greek. This use of the word seems to have arisen from the almost universal adaption of the Greek language.

I refer to Gentiles as Non-Jewish. Therefore, when I say, gentile christian church, it is understood as, Non-Jewish Non-Israelite Christian Church.

Of course, as what you have quoted:

18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone

Yes, when we accept our Lord Jesus Christ, we have access by one Spirit unto the God the Father. We are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizen with the saints, and of the household of God.

We therefore, no longer Gentiles but fellowcitizen with the saints. Neither Gentiles nor Jews.

[Revelation 1412 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.]

I’ve been reading all the forums here, and there seem to be a struggle between Sabbath keeping and Sunday worship. I think I got the picture now. Just correct me if I’m wrong.

Revelation 14

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

As Silver Surfer has mentioned, God only points out to one Church. This is correct.

Remember, we are Gentiles. We are not Jews. We are not children of Israel. Because of our Lord Jesus Christ sacrifice for all of mankind, we have the right to salvation. Whoever believes in Him will be saved.

"Here is the patience of the saints", it means we as Saints are waiting for that time where some Jews finally be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and accept Him as saviour. As we are sealed they will also be sealed - all 144,000 of them - all the tribe of Israel.

Concerning the "seal", we read:

Ephesians 1
 13 In him you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and have believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 which is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

and

Ephesian 4
30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

and the tribe of Isreal:

Revelation 7
4 And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand sealed, out of every tribe of the sons of Israel,

Reading Revelation 14, how come only one exclusive Church? Who are they? Let’s read on:

Revelation 12

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

How come ‘the’ remnant? Read on:

Romans 9

26 "And in the very place where it was said to them, 'You are not my people,' they will be called 'sons of the living God.'" 27 And Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the sons of Israel be as the sand of the sea, only a remnant of them will be saved;

We know, in order to be saved, one must believe in Jesus Christ, because He is the only way. Now, reading the verse above, “only a remnant will be saved”.

This is very clear and simple to understand, in the last days, some Jews will believe in Jesus Christ, be baptized and be saved!! Praise God! This is concerning Israel and not the Gentiles.

You see know brethrens? This is the remnant Church that Revelation12 is talking about! This remnant church is a Jewish Christian born again/evangelical Church. This exclusive Church coming from a Jewish background carried with them the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.  Jewish + Christian interconnected = the remnant church.

Now if we think the other way, and think this is one of the hundreds of Christian Gentile church, we will be confused, because if we were to think that our church is that remnant church which keeps the commandments of God, then the rest of the other churches are null and void and make the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ in vain.  

Remember, the commandments of God is not only the 10 commandments, but the rest of the OT commandments which includes not eating pork, seafoods, animals with split hooves, birds of prey, and etc. It’s a lot.

Concerning the law and works of Israel and the faith of the Gentiles, we read:

Romans 9

29 And as Isaiah predicted, "If the Lord of hosts had not left us children, we would have fared like Sodom and been made like Gomor'rah." 30 What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, righteousness through faith; 31 but that Israel who pursued the righteousness which is based on law did not succeed in fulfilling that law. 32 Why? Because they did not pursue it through faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone, 33 as it is written, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone that will make men stumble, a rock that will make them fall; and he who believes in him will not be put to shame."

See the difference? Not through righteousness based on law because the law was not fulfilled but to righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ.

The way I see it, there are 2 audiences here, the children of Israel and the Gentiles. If we read the Bible in general not looking at the distinctions, we will get confused and there will be conflict. We are not Israelites, we are Gentiles.

And again, read on:

Romans 10

1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they mightbe saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

See now Christian Sabbath keepers? You are not Jews, like us you are also Gentiles. Agreed? Hellooo??

Jesus Christ already died for our sins. Just believe in Him and you will be SAVED. It's not burdensome. It's not judgemental. Anyone can be saved if you believe in His holy name. There's no condition attached. We are sinners. We have been cleansed by the mighty Blood of Jesus Christ. We have repented because of our Faith in Jesus Christ. Not by ourselves, but by the power of the Holy Spirit. He is in us to guide us in all truths and to free us from all bondage.  

Free yourself from the chains, as Christ has already freed us. Free yourself and have peace and wait for our Lord Jesus Christ coming!!

Woohoo!! Praise the Lord! Glory be His name! God almighty!

Now, my heart really wants me to remember the Sabbath day and to keep it holy as it is convicting me. How does one Christian observe this? Through helping people, studying the Bible, refrain from any entertainment, etc? How long would the Sabbath be? From Surise till Sunset? I know it won't be a sacrifice as it's easy following these, for I want to love God with all my heart, with all my strength and with all my soul.

How is it for one Christian to remember the Sabbath day and also working on that day? What if someone wants my help? Do I fall on deaf ears?

How do we remember the Sabbath day and to keep it holy, but not like what the Pharisees and Sadduces are doing which is very burdensome?

I know Jesus Christ did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. What is the fulfillment of the Sabbath? What was Christ's example?

I would like to hear what the Holy Spirit tells you.

God bless.

The same day that Jesus and the Apostle Paul attended worship service, as their custom was....the 7th day Sabbath.

On a Saturday right? Thanks. So, most probably, you're following the Hebrew Calendar and not the Pagan Gregorian calendar right? Do clarify, please.

God does not lead people to commit sin !

Yes, I know. But, I ask, as what our brethren Reba quoted,"
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." How do you perceive this? And, how many christian churches observe the Sabbath day strictly to the Law? Can you give a count?

The pharisees did not observe the Law of God !
When a person tries to kill someone else, as they tried to kill Jesus on several occasions, they break God's Law !

Yes, I know. But not all pharisees and sadduces were like that, though most of them are.  Now I know what Jesus Christ meant, "Lord!, Lord! Did we cast out demons in your name, heal the sick in your name? and Jesus told them, "I do not know you, depart from me you who practice lawlessness!" Some Christians can fall into that trap, unfortunately.

Did we stop and think, did we do God's will? Did we feed the poor, visit the prisoners, confessed our sins, share the gospel,  forgave our enemies, pray for unsaved people, not to turn down who borrows from you, not to revenge who stole from you, had a good relationship with Christ through prayers, repented of our ways fully, being that good samaritan, and etc. And do not love our lives and the world? Did we follow what Christ told us? Jesus Christ also did work on a Sabbath day and the Pharisees accused Him of working. It is better to do good on a Sabbath day rather than leave someone hungry and thirsty.

"But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take [any] person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.
  33:7  So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.
  33:8  When I say unto the wicked, O wicked [man], thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
  33:9  Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy own soul", (Ezekiel, chapter 33).

I understand clearly your situation, my brethren. But, I worship my Lord Jesus Christ every day through praying. I do God's will to the best of my ability. I help people. I have repented of my ways with God's help. Though I do not want to deceive myself and tell a lie, I still sin, but I'm quick to ask God for forgiveness right there on the spot and stop the enemy from having a foothold on me. How can I then be wicked? If I follow strict to the law the Sabbath day, but do not do God's will, how can I then be righteous?

I follow my Lord's commandment which was fulfilled by 2 commandments:

Matt 22:37-40
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The above quote (Ezekiel, chapter 33), as I understand, the "wicked" mentioned were those people who are of the "world", idol worshippers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, and the likes who has their part in the lake of fire. We are to warn those kind of people to repent of their ways and worship the one true God, Jesus Christ. If they do not, the sword will come. We as Christians are to warn those people of the world of the coming wrath of the lamb. We are all watchman and watchwoman. Every Christian has to do their part and to save as many as we can for we cannot remain lukewarm lest our Lord Jesus Christ spew us out of his mouth. Now, as Jesus Christ has told us, we are not here for those who are well, but for those who are sick.

[Revelation 18]

Add this to the list;

the six pointed star - commonly known as the Star of David - it's origin is in the occult as well as the 5 pointed star - used in kabbalah, free masonry, rosicrucian, etc.

The Star of David? I still don't want to confirm this but I see this symbol in Hinduism also. Either they were blaspheming it or just copying it as I think one of the tribes of Israel disobeyed God and fell into idol worshipping and somewhat introduced the Star of David into idol worshipping.

I will also add another one - Pornography just like idol worshipping, will curse the land and also the people. For eg. AIDS, VD, STD, etc. Final Result? Total destruction like Sodom and Gamorrah. It will also be in the last days. With the invention of Internet, pornography has been downloaded and distributed in a massive and global scale where even kids have an easy access to it.

Let see what the Bible says about this:

Revelation 18

1 After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority; and the earth was made bright with his splendor. 2 And he called out with a mighty voice, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! It has become a dwelling place of demons, a haunt of every foul spirit, a haunt of every foul and hateful bird; 3 for all nations have drunk the wine of her impure passion, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich with the wealth of her wantonness." 4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; 5 for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.

Now, which country is this who spread pornography all over the world?

Back to the symbols, let me explain plainly, these symbols are symbols of witchcraft. With the symbols in your house you are summoning and invoking evil spirits to do it's job. That's why it's accursed.

Lets read again that portion of Revelation 18:2
"It has become a dwelling place of demons, a haunt of every foul spirit, a haunt of every foul and hateful bird"

Now, which country again promotes holoween, easter, X'mas, and etc?

These symbols are very ancient and practiced by heathen nations. Yes, we are christians and we have victory over those but we need to clean up our house as we don't want the symbols of the enemy. It's simple and it's subtle. I've already removed and thrown things in my house which represent those, from home decor to cabinet knobs. It's tedious work, but I fear God.

"Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues;"

[Silver Surfer wrote:The 7 day weekly cycle has never ever changed.]

Silver Surfer wrote:
The 7 day weekly cycle has never ever changed.


Ok. What day do you attend your praise and worship? I attend on Sundays as I have half days work on Saturdays. If I don't have work on Saturday, I read and study the Bible. Coming from a Sabbath keeping Church before and it split up because of differing views, this year I attended a praise and worship church. This is so different as people there were happy and enjoying themselves and they're so inspired. It's a different change for me but I know God has led me to this Church. Though, sometimes, I got used to observing Sabbath on a Saturday, I try to make sure to keep it holy by having a quite bible study. But, that does not mean that I'm holier than my other brethrens lest I fall into a trap like what the Pharisees and Sadduces did.

I did compare my old church to the new one, but I came to realize I cannot judge another man's servant (the ministers or pastors). To each the Holy Spirit give gifts according to his will. Some a gift of healing, some teaching, some prayer warriors, some discerning of spirits, some a gift of sight, some speaking of tongues, some prophets, and etc. Now, since the body of Christ is the Church, one church cannot be both hand and eyes, or one church cannot be both head and ears but each one belonging to the body of Chirst. But, it will be a different story if a church teaches damnable hersies and according to man's tradition like idol worshipping.

I understand that the Bible can have several translations with other churches, but we should trust the Holy Spirit to guide us to the scriptures as He is the key to understanding the Bible deeper lest we fall into a trap again and lean too much to our own understanding.

Let see what the Bible says about this:

1 Corinthians 12

1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be uninformed. 2 You know that when you were heathen, you were led astray to dumb idols, however you may have been moved. 3 Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking by the Spirit of God ever says "Jesus be cursed!" and no one can say "Jesus is Lord" except by the Holy Spirit. 4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; 5 and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; 6 and there are varieties of working, but it is the same God who inspires them all in every one. 7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 8 To one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 All these are inspired by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills. 12 For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--Jews or Greeks, slaves or free--and all were made to drink of one Spirit. 14 For the body does not consist of one member but of many. 15 If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," that would not make it any less a part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body," that would not make it any less a part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell? 18 But as it is, God arranged the organs in the body, each one of them, as he chose. 19 If all were a single organ, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, yet one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you," nor again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you." 22 On the contrary, the parts of the body which seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and those parts of the body which we think less honorable we invest with the greater honor, and our unpresentable parts are treated with greater modesty, 24 which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so composed the body, giving the greater honor to the inferior part, 25 that there may be no discord in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. 26 If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together. 27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. 28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, then healers, helpers, administrators, speakers in various kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way.

[You quoted: " But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition ?"" But in vain ...they do worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men", (Matthew 15:3,9).]

You quoted:
  " But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition ?"
"    But in vain ...they do worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men", (Matthew 15:3,9).

Yes, I got what you mean. I forgot what verse that was, telling he change the times, and yes he did. We all follow pagan time scheme. Do we have a choice here? Is Saturday the real day of Sabbath we're suppose to keep?  The one who changed the times designed a new time (gregorian calendar) so as to keep real worshippers from worshipping on the real sabbath. Do we have the exact and accurate day?

You quoted:
Have you ever thought about the Old...and the New...Testaments as being the 2 witnesses ?
After all....the whole Bible contains everything God wants people to know and understand, right ?

Yes, there are so many translations to that, some say it's Elijah and Moses, some say it's Elijah and Enoch. After all the OT and the NT holds witness and testimony of God. But, I ask, are the two witnesses prophets who tormented those who worship the image of the beast and fire came out from their mouth to destroy their enemies?

For me, the Bible can be understood spiritually and literally. Spiritually, the OT and NT - holds witness and testimony of God and literally - the 2 witnesses are the 2 prophets and 1 one them probably is Elijah as God will send him before the great and dreadful day of the Lord. For me, the word of God is a double edge sword.

You quoted:
As  for this.....the whole Bible has 'already provided' ...that information.....As the Book of Daniel and Revelation (put together) has 'already' told us who the Beast is.

Please enlighten me, as I read many translation here. I would love to read yours.

[Revelation 9]

I agree with dreamweaver. Some things really looks so innocent and fun, but there are actually of pagan origin. We know we are not worshipping any of those, but having to observe this occassion is an abomination to God for these are ancient babylonian practices. Also, any occult symbols in your house should be thrown out. Demons are real. These symbols represent them and their stronghold thats why it's cursed. No matter how innocent they may look or no matter how simple it may seem, we should should throw them out. It's very subtle, you don't know you have them in your house until you are aware of them. With the blood and in the name of Jesus Christ, we can cast out demons and break their strongholds, but we should not joy over this, but rather joy because our name is written in heaven.
We should know, we no longer struggle with flesh and blood, but with principalities and evil spirits which exalts itself in the heavenly realms.

Although to some people this may seem foolish, but the following symbols or practices represent demonic stronghold and sorceries, I'll mention some:

1. Five Pointed Star - The Pentagram (Flags)
2. The Crescent Moon - Moon God/Goddess symbol (Flags)
3. The Sun - Sun god worship (Flags)
4. Illuminati - The Eye
5. Sacred Heart - Catholic and Hanuman for Hindu (Logo of Superman shaped of a heart)
6. Ankh Cross
7. Celtic Cross
8. Crucifix
9. Swastica
10. All idols,icons,symbols of other faiths - Catholic,Buddhism, Hindu, Shinto, Sikhism, the Samurai, ceremonial masks, thaipussam, totems, african masks, voodoo, etc.
11. Universalism
12. Freemasonry
13. Meneki Neko - Oriental Cat god to bring prosperity
14. Ghouls and Goblins (Bat icon of Batman)
15. Scarrab - Egyptian Beetle symbol - similiar logo of Spiderman
16. Science - They don't believe in God and they exchange the truth for a lie.
17. Ancient cultural dances and rituals - cambodian, balinese, hindu, chinese, indians, africans, tribals, etc. These ancient cultural dances are actually dances for the demons as these are ritualistic in nature. Some can even come into a demonic trance.
18. X'mas and all symbols associated with it.
19. Santa Claus  
20. Every pagan holidays - eg. Easter

We should not worship them, or salute to them, pledge to it, patriotic to it, emulate it, incorporate it whatsover. Have nothing to do with it. These symbols will appear in kids cartoons, schools, in your garments, your blankets, household products, company logos, flags, etc. It's everywhere and it's very subtle. You won't actually even notice it. They're like bugs.

Now, let see what the Bible says about this in the last days:

Revelation 9
20 The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which cannot either see or hear or walk; 21 nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their immorality or their thefts.

1 Corinthians 2
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Mathew 24
1 Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. 2 But he answered them, "You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down."
 
2 Corinthians 10
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

Ephesians 6
12 For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Now what happens if you have them in your house:

Deuteronomy 7
26 And you shall not bring an abominable thing into your house, and become accursed like it; you shall utterly detest and abhor it; for it is an accursed thing.

And what happens if you obey God:

Deuteronomy 7
12 "And because you hearken to these ordinances, and keep and do them, the LORD your God will keep with you the covenant and the steadfast love which he swore to your fathers to keep; 13 he will love you, bless you, and multiply you; he will also bless the fruit of your body and the fruit of your ground, your grain and your wine and your oil, the increase of your cattle and the young of your flock, in the land which he swore to your fathers to give you. 14 You shall be blessed above all peoples; there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle. 15 And the LORD will take away from you all sickness; and none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which you knew, will he inflict upon you, but he will lay them upon all who hate you.

Kindly read all of the passages in Deuteronomy 7 to get a better grasp of things.

Now, research all ancient civilizations - Ankor Wat, Mayan, Pyramids, etc. Who destroyed them? What were they practising and observing? God is patient, He will give time for man to repent. If man doesn't want to repent of his ways, His wrath will be upon them in the last days.

[Deutornomy 7]

Nothing abominable shall be in the Kingdom of God.
 

Such as Sunday Worship services ?

 "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.  
  66:23   And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD," (Isaiah 66:22,23).  

Sunday Worship? I don't think worshipping the one true God on a Sunday will be abominable. We are worshipping our Lord Jesus Christ and not idols. If you notice the name Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and etc, they are actually named after the heathen gods of ancient babylon. We follow the pagan calendars, but for telling time only, and not for worship. If you are in China, you follow the Chinese calendar, but for telling time only. Even our watches, when you look at it, it follows pagan time scheme, where at the strike of 12midnite, it will be another new day. The  original is, from Sun rise to Sun rise that will equal one day. So, it's just for time sake. We do not practice it and worship their idols. We do not worship any graven images or practice pagan practices on Sunday or any other days of the week.

Look at the US dollar note. You see a pagan symbol at the back - the illuminati. Be careful not to worship money or covet things.
Do not make money the center of your life. Trust God that he will provide everything for you and not how much money you are going to earn. One should not be so obsessed in making money. Otherwise, the occult symbol will grab hold on you or ensnare you and destroy your life. Yes, we do need money to buy our everyday necessities, but our focus should be on our Lord Jesus Christ who provide us these things, and not money.  

Deutornomy 7
25 The graven images of their gods you shall burn with fire; you shall not covet the silver or the gold that is on them, or take it for yourselves, lest you be ensnared by it; for it is an abomination to the LORD your God. 26 And you shall not bring an abominable thing into your house, and become accursed like it; you shall utterly detest and abhor it; for it is an accursed thing.  

Leviticus 18
24 "Do not defile yourselves by any of these things, for by all these the nations I am casting out before you defiled themselves; 25 and the land became defiled, so that I punished its iniquity, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you shall keep my statutes and my ordinances and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger who sojourns among you 27 (for all of these abominations the men of the land did, who were before you, so that the land became defiled); 28 lest the land vomit you out, when you defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was before you. 29 For whoever shall do any of these abominations, the persons that do them shall be cut off from among their people. 30 So keep my charge never to practice any of these abominable customs which were practiced before you, and never to defile yourselves by them: I am the LORD your God."

So, when the two witnesses comes, they will probably warn people not to worship the image of the beast and all full trust, faith and confidence should be to God. The image of the beast are the images of false gods and deities and all the symbols that comes with it. Look at all the world flags. See how it is full of occult symbols? The popular ones are the pentagram - five pointed star, the crescent moon - the moon god/goddess symbol, the sun - sun god worship. See how people pledge on it and die for it and be patriotic? Very subtle isn't it? Don't put too much faith on your national flag/government and how it will protect you, put all your faith to God and trust that He, only He can protect you, for our citizenship is already in heaven.

Hi LowFlatRate, when you mentioned about the Anti Christ i heard few weeks ago that the Anti Christ would probably be Muslim and i believe that it is a possibility that he may be working in the EU or UN as we speak on here and live our lives everyday.

Hello! Yes, most probably. But, I was also thinking, the Jews does not believe in Jesus Christ either. And so does the Hindus, the buddhist, and people of other faiths. They have the spirit of the anti-christ. They do not believe He was the word, and the word was with God and the Word was God and He became flesh and dwelt among us. I think there will be a unification of the world's religion by a super power religion headed by a man whose name numbers 666. I think this is where the two witnesses will go in to spread the gospel of the Kingdom of God and to warn them of their idol worshipping and sorceries and just like Moses and Elijah, they brought devastating supernatural plagues and calamity to those who did not repent. If anyone tries to harm them through any means, the 2 witnesses shall burn them with fire coming from their mouths. Just imagine, what if the enemies will kill them with tanks and missiles? These 2 humans will seem to look like superman because they have power to destroy those military mights. Only the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit can kill them.

I'll read your Prophecies of the End time connection to get a better grasp of things to come.

You forget.  That battles already won.  Jesus won it on the cross.  God knows it.  God's children know it.  Satan knows it.  The demons know it.  Maybe someone should tell the Muslims?  

1 Corinthians 10:13.  "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."

Woohoo! AMEN to that! Praise God! Glory to his name! Thanks!
Guess I'm a worry freak. With events happening today, I can't help it sometimes. Hehehe...

Was wondering, what did the two witnesses warn the people? If one of them is Elijah, then as what he did in the OT, destroying the BAAL false prophets, he will also warn people not to worship idols. Do not worship the image of the beast? What is the image of the beast then? So, anything not of God is of the beast and what is of the beast are idols from different Faiths.

So, I believe the 2 witnesses could be warning people not to worship idols and to carry it's mark, either on their right hand or on their forehead. If they did not repent, then they will suffer the plagues in whatever the 2 witnesses desired. They can smite the Earth in whatever ways they want and tormented those who worship the image of the beast. Still, as what is written, sadly, the people did not repent.

These 2 witnesses, I think, will make way for the Kingdom of God is coming on Earth. Everything should be cleaned and make the path straight as the King of Kings will come. Every symbol and Every idol that the Beast represents should be cast away and break it's stronghold. Nothing abominable shall be in the Kingdom of God.
 

I wonder what the Bible means, "Woe to those who are nursing babies" and "those who are in Judea, flee to the mountains" and when you see Jerusalem sorrounded by armies, know that it's desolation is near.

Who hates the Jew more than any other people here on Earth?
If the USA loses it's power and economy, who will defend Israel?
No one. Everyone will be afraid.

Imagine this, Oil + Nukes + Muslim radicals = World domination plus extreme fear. Who is able to stand?

Where's Elijah?

My wife is dead, my kids are grown adults. Yes my kids would miss me but, they know who I would be with, Jesus Christ.
Yes a true worshipper really can, endure that to the bitter end.

Seeing innocent people being beheaded by terrorists can really have a pyschological effect. It's rather disturbing. Imagine the day where people getting slaughtered to death if they refuse to be converted or marked. And we know everyone who is against Jesus Christ is an Anti-Christ.

Yes I am willing to die for Jesus. I will go while praising his name.

What about those who has a family? Since these people are so merciless or heartless, do you think they will spare your wife or even your kids if they also refuse to be converted? Will one be willing to see their love ones being subjected to that?

Can a true worshipper really endure that to the end?