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1  Theology / Apologetics / Re:Christianity is NOT real! on: June 25, 2003, 05:48:35 AM
Hi BDoggy,

"why do you think that evidence and faith are in opposition to one another?"

Evidence can be factually proven whereas something believed because of faith cannot. There is no way to prove by evidence the bible is the word of God. One has to believe that by faith. There is no way to believe Jesus is God other than through faith.

"what do you think faith is?? "

Faith is a belief not based on physical or real evidence.

"i stand by my words."

I don't have a problem with that other than slightly knit picking about the difference betwen faith and blind faith. But I am not a knit picker, so will leave it go. Some would make the argument Christianity is blind faith, whereas others leave it go at faith. The key is, and you agree, faith is involved.

Regards,

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2  Theology / Apologetics / Re:Thread for Baptist on: June 24, 2003, 06:05:08 AM
Hi Tibby,

Here's something that may be of interest.

Thought you had run away to a new church!

http://www.yellowstone.net/baptist/history.htm



Regards,

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3  Theology / Apologetics / Re:Christianity is NOT real! on: June 24, 2003, 05:36:24 AM
BDoggy,

"i would also like to point out that Christianity never has been and never will be in any way, shape or form a "blind leap" of faith as some think. the Chistian faith is rooted in historical facts and real evidence."

You never said faith was a part of it. You said it was not a leap of blind faith, and that the Christian faith is rooted in historical facts and real evidence.

 Without faith, whatever historical facts and real evidence you are referring to, is meaningless. Faith is the key root of the Christian religion, and by not mentioning it you gave the impression that "faith" either is not an ingredient or is not an important part, and therefore not worth mentioning. The fact that you said it is not a blind leap of faith, does not automatically suggest you are saying faith is involved. That is why I said what I did.

Regards,

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4  Theology / Apologetics / Re:Christianity is NOT real! on: June 23, 2003, 03:40:08 AM
BDoggy,

Look, you are entitled to believe in what you believe, but
please don't say belief in Christianity is not a matter of faith because it is.

How do you know the bible is in reality the word of God? Faith.

How do you know the bible is just not some interesting fairytales some people decided to make up? Faith.

I'm not saying, don't believe it if you choose to. Just don't tell people it is not based on faith, that's all. Ok.

Regards

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5  Theology / Apologetics / Re:Why doesn't God show himself? on: May 22, 2003, 04:15:11 AM
Someguy,

I am willing to look at the stars and sky etc., and say something or someone, or some higher being, referring to God had to put it there, and I leave it go at that.

That is what the people who fought in the "American Revolution" did. I'm referring to the Deists.

You make a valid point of God being around a very, very, long time, infinity even. Frankly, when it gets to that point it is over my head. And how God got here, I don't have a clue!

You may be interested to know, Albert Einstein, who was obviously a great believer in and contributor to science as well, was a Deist.  

Regards,

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6  Theology / Apologetics / Re:Why doesn't God show himself? on: May 21, 2003, 06:02:19 AM
In part you basically said there is no real evidence that God exists and why is it not obvious that God does exist?

OK, not trying to be smart here.

Where did the moon, the stars, the solar system, the first tree for example come from? It had to start somewhere. It had to be put there in some form in the beginning, unless one believes the items mentioned above were always there in some form, which does not make any sense. One just keeps going back and asking where did this come from, where did that come from, etc. until the point is reached where it was somehow always there, or it was put there.

The above paragraph is why the atheist argument does not hold water, unless of course water was always here in some form. A bit of a pun if you will.


















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