[ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick,]

This post is aimed at the eronious practices of the 'church'. The celebration of pagan rituals like christmas and others are just a few examples. Can anyone prove that christmas is indeed scriptural and prove that it is Yahoshua's birthday? I would like to see it if you can.

Who cares if it is the correct date.

Who cares if it used to be pagan.

Paul taught us that even eating from the table of food offered to an idol is nothing if we know the idol is nothing.

Christians who celebrate Christmas as a way to honor and worship the Lord Jesus Christ are no different than those who follow Paul's instructions.

The same goes for Easter and all the other celebrations.

No one might be tempted to say that with that approach one coudl justify anything - and they would be right.

We have a liberty under the new covenant.  We are not fulfilling the letter of the law but the spirit of the law.  God wishes us to worship Him.  It does not matter how specifically, only that we do.  In fact God has told us He does not want sacrifices but mercy.  He would rather we fulfill the law through love then get tied down in literal legalism over dates and rituals.  That Christ's sacrifice made this new economy of salvation possible is the true message of the Gospel.

You are in error. It does matter. Everything matters and when people take on the belief that 'it's ok as long as you do it unto Him' is one of the main reasons the body is in the shape its in.

Isaiah 1

1:1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.

1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for YHWH hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.

1:3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.

1:4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken YHWH, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

1:5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.

1:6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.

1:7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.

1:8 And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.

1:9 Except YHWH of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.

1:10 Hear the word of YHWH, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our Elohim, ye people of Gomorrah.

1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith YHWH: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

1:12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith YHWH: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

1:20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of YHWH hath spoken it.

1:21 How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

1:22 Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water:

1:23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.

1:24 Therefore saith the Master, YHWH of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:

1:25 And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:

1:26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellers as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.

1:27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.

1:28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake YHWH shall be consumed.

1:29 For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired, and ye shall be confounded for the gardens that ye have chosen.

1:30 For ye shall be as an oak whose leaf fadeth, and as a garden that hath no water.

1:31 And the strong shall be as tow, and the maker of it as a spark, and they shall both burn together, and none shall quench them.

Verses 13 and 14 cover what He thinks of christmas, easter, and any other pagan ritual people who claim to be His participate in.

I would like to know what verses you are talking about concerning the teachings of Paul.

One more thing concerning this chapter. The Holy Spirit has revealed this to me and others I know as the current condition of the modern 'so called' new testament church. And the 'whole head that is sick' are the pastors over the flocks. And the 'whole heart is faint' is the flock. Verse 6 gives a complete diagnosis of the 'church'.  

I'm not trying to stir up strife, but I must do as He instructs me to do. I pray you and I find the truth.

Strong Defender

Loki,

The Word is His inspiration. However, some of the books have been taken out or are missing.

Look at a 1611 version of the KJV bible and compare it to the modern KJV. Go back even further and read the Septuagint (LXX) and compare the changes over the years.

There are many things, factual, worth looking into.

As for the Word, yes, His inspiration. And, yes, man has made some changes and tampered with it. And it still is happening today. Compare the NIV to the KJV. The scriptures are being watered-down as we speak. Don't just take my word for it, search the matter and pray for the truth, He'll show you the truth if you really want it.

Strong Defender

This post is aimed at the eronious practices of the 'church'. The celebration of pagan rituals like christmas and others are just a few examples. Can anyone prove that christmas is indeed scriptural and prove that it is Yahoshua's birthday? I would like to see it if you can.

Butcha,

Where has anyone been made fun of? Where is the anger you perceive? Have you truly lookied into this matter before answering it? Show me these things in the posts provided and maybe we can solve this misunderstanding. I wish no harm to anyone, but only wish to expose the truth of the matter rather than just sit back and float along in the comfort zone of pacifism. Check out the posts and the scriptures provided.

I pray we both find the truth.

[Come out of Babylon, people. Get out of her now!!!]

Come passion,

Great posts. I agree with both of them and hope to see the same results in America soon.

I encourage all reading to study Revelation 17 & 18. After reading it, take a hard look at the modern, so called 'church' and then America. As I read both, I see many traits of both in the chapters presented. We are no longer a nation concerned with righteousness. Riches, yes. Fame, yes. Flesh, absolutely. The shoe fits our nation and 'churches' very, very well. Until people humble themselves and accept the truth that is right in front of our faces, the current condition will only get worse and more and more innocent people will perish. Don't be fooled by the warm, fuzzy feelings of your surroundings. It is just candy-coated poison in disguise.

Come out of Babylon, people. Get out of her now!!!

Every whore was once a virgin. Nobody was born defiled. Born into a sin nature, yes, but not turning tricks right out of the womb. What was once pure, what was once the 'body', is now turning tricks. Accepting the world into their churches. Celebrating that which is evil, because, they say 'He understands what we mean by our celebration'......total and complete compromise. Whores.

You say 'It is the demise of false Christianity and man made religion that will truly come about'. False doctrines are what they are. That's why they cannot be and never will be 'the whore' spoken about in the word. Those were perverse and never pure. They were never virgins.

This post wasn't aimed at the Catholic church.

It pertains to the modern 'Prodestant' church.

To be the whore, you must have had something to 'sell'.

Catholisism never has. They have never truly know the Master. It was founded on the control of people.

Prodestants have sold out, celebrating pagan rituals ordained by the Catholic church, yet claiming to be different.
They sell what was never theirs, the gospel. Freely you receive, freely you give.....not anymore. Now it's all about timing the message given, making it long enough to produce four tapes for another item on the table for sale at the back of the 'church'.

Riches are preached now, not righteousness equating prosperity with financial gain. Is that the inheritance spoken of in the word? Better think about it a little more.

Pray for the truth, He will show all who truly want to know the truth.

Strong Defender
 

Mark 7:13 Making the word of Yahweh of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

The 'church' has accepted the rituals and celebrations of the pagan traditions. Christmas, Easter, Valentine's Day, etc., not to mention having 'dress-up harvest parties' on 10/31, as if there's a difference.

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before Yahoshua and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Our gatherings are spotted of the world. Lights, camera, action......pack on the make-up, sell some tape series and videos, things Yahweh gave for free. The lights, the messages, the song services all a fine-tuned orchestration, or production. Still Yahweh is merciful and touches His people. I love Him so much because He brought me out of Babylon, the great whore.

Matthew
7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.you

Ask Him to show you the truth. He will. And if you listen and obey, He'll show you even more.

Seeking the Truth,

Strong Defender
 

Come Passion,

I have told some of His correct name, and the responce identical to the responce one gets when explaining the pagan ritual of christmas, 'I don't want to know, I think He understands because in my heart I don't mean it like that' or 'It's our tradition'.

Mark 7:13 Making the word of Yahweh of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

'Tradition' and 'going with the flow' has  tainted so much of the word and not to mention what it has done to the body. We are so far off, but I am praying for the truth. People must know that if it cannot be supported by scripture, it isn't scriptural. Nothing more, nothing less.

I am so thankful to know His true name. I am also very thankful to be delivered from the bondage of the manyh pagan celebrations the 'church' participates in. I just hope others will pray for the truth and yield to it when He shows them.

What has He shown you concerning these topics of concern? Do you feel the same, and Has Yahweh shown you these same problems as well? Would love to hear back from you.

Love and truth to all,

Strong Defender

I am new to this site and obviously this is my first post here. I am posting here now because I see you refering to the 'Holy Spirit' by His true name, Rauch Ha Kodesh. Do you also refer to the Father by His true name Yahweh and the Messiah as Yahoshua? I have been studying about the changes in the scriptures for a while now and see more and more people coming to find His true and sacred name. Even in Hosea 2:16 it is prophecied that in these days His people would no longer call Him baali, and I now se that coming to pass. What do you think?

Seeking the truth,

Strong Defender