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Title: Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: Bill 1954 on August 31, 2005, 11:26:01 PM
http://washtimes.com/metro/20050830-103028-5815r.htm (http://washtimes.com/metro/20050830-103028-5815r.htm)


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Suit seeks OK for gay 'marriage'

By S.A. Miller
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
August 31, 2005

BALTIMORE -- The battle over homosexual "marriage" was waged in a Maryland courtroom yesterday when oral arguments were presented in a lawsuit seeking to nullify century-old marriage statutes and force the state to recognize same-sex unions.
    Assistant Attorney General Robert A. Zarnoch said state law defining marriage as a union of a man and a woman codifies the "essence of marriage" and does not deprive any resident of basic rights afforded by the Maryland Constitution.
    He also urged Baltimore Circuit Judge M. Brooke Murdock not be an activist judge in the mold of the Massachusetts Supreme Court, which legalized same-sex "marriage" in that state in 2003 and spurred the ongoing national debate.
    "At issue here is the authority of the legislature to address issues of same-sex partners," Mr. Zarnoch said. "This is not something the court can do by itself. The legislature must be involved in this process."
    An attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union, which brought the lawsuit on behalf of nine homosexual couples denied licenses in Maryland, said overturning discriminatory laws was not activism.
    "We are not asking the bench to be activist, but to do its duty to uphold the state constitution," said ACLU attorney Kenneth Y. Choe.
    Judge Murdock has indicated that her ruling could come within a month.
    However, the case likely is destined for a higher court regardless of Judge Murdock's ruling.
    Mr. Choe said denying homosexuals the right to marry violates the state constitution's guarantee of equal protection under the law.
    He said that unlike married heterosexual couples, homosexual couples are unable to visit each other in the hospital, share health insurance or inherit property as a matter of right.
    Mr. Zarnoch and Assistant Attorney General Steven M. Sullivan argued that marriage is not a fundamental right but a privilege. They said current law does not discriminate based on sex because both men and women are unable to enter same-sex "marriages."
    After the hearing, the debate spilled onto the streets outside the courthouse, where homosexual activists staged a rally. Some hoisted placards with slogans such as: "Civil marriage is a civil right" and "My gay son deserves the right to marry."
 "I want my kids to have a family setting the way it should be," said Takia Foskey, 31, who is raising her 7-year-old son with partner Jo Rabb, 39. They were denied a marriage license in Baltimore.
    Prince George's County resident Nigel Simon, 36, said he wanted to get married to protect the three foster children he adopted with partner Alvin Williams, 50.
    "The law doesn't recognize us as a couple or a family," Mr. Simon said.
    Across the street, a half-dozen people opposed to same-sex "marriage" steered clear of the rally.
    Rick Bowers, chairman of the group Defend Maryland Marriage, said he hoped the judge would resist the temptation to rewrite state law.
    "To handle it in the courtroom is to shut out the public and short-circuit the legislative process," he said.

Look at these statements:

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"I want my kids to have a family setting the way it should be," said Takia Foskey, 31, who is raising her 7-year-old son with partner Jo Rabb, 39. They were denied a marriage license in Baltimore.
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The Way a family Should Be is with a FATHER & MOTHER!

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   Prince George's County resident Nigel Simon, 36, said he wanted to get married to protect the three foster children he adopted with partner Alvin Williams, 50.

Protect them from WHAT?  A NORMAL LIFESTYLE?

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"The law doesn't recognize us as a couple or a family," Mr. Simon said

No-GOD'S WORD-THE BIBLE-doesn't recognize you as a family!

Bill  :-X


Title: Re:Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: JudgeNot on September 01, 2005, 01:01:14 AM
Bill - this isn't going to go away (in my opinon) until Christ comes.  It is a classic example of the few imposing their will on the many.  

Rome fell and will fall again.  


Title: Re:Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: Shammu on September 01, 2005, 01:55:49 AM
Bill - this isn't going to go away (in my opinon) until Christ comes.  It is a classic example of the few imposing their will on the many.  

Rome fell and will fall again.  
AMEN JN! :D


Title: Re:Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: curious on September 03, 2005, 03:36:49 AM
         Hello JN:

     You are correct in saying that JN.For in the Bible it says it will be as in the days of Noah just before the He comes again.


                       Yours in Yeshua,
                       curious


Title: Re:Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: ollie on September 03, 2005, 07:33:53 AM
Come out of it and be seperated unto God, holy though Jesus Christ. Learn of Him, Jesus Christ and guide your life by Him, Jesus Christ and fret not for the ways of the Devil in the world. His time is short and he will wax stronger and stronger knowing his end is imminent and sure.

Be of an uplifted heart and filled with joy with seeing these things for by them you know it will be soon when the Lord comes for us.

ollie


Title: Re:Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: ravenloche on September 22, 2005, 09:09:23 PM
Greeting my fellow brothers and sisters in Jesus.

To answer this in a short and sweet method: let's go back to
Sodom and Gamorrah and see if they were trying to pass
such activity as moral, just, and normal. We know full well
that they were. We were given a vivid description of the
reaction by G-d then, do you really think it will be different now? "I am the L-rd G-d, I change not!"

G-d said it, that settles it!
Lev. 18:22

yours in Yeshua:
ravenloche


Title: Re:Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: nChrist on September 22, 2005, 11:42:37 PM
Hello Brother Ravenloche,

Amen! You've said everything of any importance on this subject. The only valid debate on this subject is among the lost, certainly not God's children.

Brother, it's great to hear from you.

Love in Christ,
Tom

2 Corinthians 5:5-8 NASB  Now He who prepared us for this very purpose is God, who gave to us the Spirit as a pledge. Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord -- for we walk by faith, not by sight -- we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord.


Title: Re:Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: pastor ron on September 25, 2005, 05:43:28 PM
As a pastor my 1st concern is that traditional marriage remain as a God ordained institution. It was put in place way back in Genesis between a man and woman. As for being a constitutional right it should remain between a man and woman. My 2nd concern is how much time is put into prayer for the souls that are being decieved. How much time is spent asking our father what is the best way to witness to these lost souls.God can and I am sure he is willing to guide us in helping these people  2nd Chronichels 7:14


Title: Re:Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: nChrist on September 26, 2005, 03:07:38 AM
Hello Pastor Ron,

First, let me WELCOME! you. I sincerely hope that you enjoy Christians Unite.

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Witnessing to people who wish to wallow in the darkness of their sins is a real challenge. Their response is typically anger, regardless of how the Christian tries to witness. We can and should pray that God gives us wisdom and guidance to try anyway.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Colossians 2:6-7 NASB  Therefore as you have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith, just as you were instructed, and overflowing with gratitude.


Title: Re:Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: LittlePilgrim on September 27, 2005, 01:22:47 PM
Well, a couple things.
First, there is some debate among Christian brethren as to whether homosexuality is okay. Generally however, I think some of them confuse romantic love with fraternal love.

Secondly, gay marriage is an oxymoron. :p


Title: Re:Suit seeks OK for gay "marriage"
Post by: nChrist on September 27, 2005, 02:20:55 PM
Well, a couple things.
First, there is some debate among Christian brethren as to whether homosexuality is okay. Generally however, I think some of them confuse romantic love with fraternal love.

Secondly, gay marriage is an oxymoron. :p

Hello LittlePilgrim,

There are some calling themselves Christians who say that homosexuality and all kinds of other things are okay. First, I would seriously question whether they are Christians or not. Second, they would have to ignore the Old and New Testament of the Holy Bible to suggest that homosexuality is okay.

Some of our churches today should not be called churches at all. I was just reflecting on an article that I read recently about a church voting about whether JESUS is GOD or not. Some churches would better serve their communities by becoming a bar or a club. There is something new and sickening about so-called churches in the news almost every day now.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Colossians 3:15-16 NASB  Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in one body; and be thankful. Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God.