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Title: Theif of Hope and Robber of Joy
Post by: C C on June 24, 2004, 11:07:03 AM
Hi all,

I went home last night and I sat on my bed, which is not really even a bed its just a thick layer of blankets.   ;D  And there would be joy in my heart.  Everyday I get all this happiness and joy that the Lord is in His temple and there is still a faith that can make the mountains move. . .
 
But not last night.  Last night I was robbed of my joy because there are certain people in the world that wont agree that the Lord is Almighty.  Having arguments with Christians that deny the Almighty hand of the Lord brings me down like no other thing.

More specifically, when Jesus Christ isn't all in all.  Instead of Being all powerful, Jesus Christ has to take the back seat to the to whatever church

I'm not saying any church in particular, I'm saying every church that thinks God can't work outside of it . . .

Those folks that think that God can't work outside of their particular idea of church think that God isn't almighty.  That robs my joy and hope.

I'm tired of Christians saying that God's hand isn't powerful, and it can't move without this or that person's specific version church

I'm sick of hearing that the Holy Spirit can't move without someone's specific idea of church.

I'm tired of hearing people say, "Christ is powerless to save you unless you come to my idea of church"

Because don't we know there's like so many other differing relgions.  There's all these folks that believe in this God or that God--and the biggest god of our country is evolution.  Under evolution we can't even acknowledge that some things are right and some things are wrong.  Under evolution its all relative.  

My hope is in Christ, but then there's the robbers of hope and joy are the people that try to tell me, "You can't hope in Christ unless you adhere to my idea of church.  Christ can't do one iota unless you come to my idea of church."

In essense, those folks are saying that God isn't powerful.  And then the truth is maybe he isn't powerful because those folks don't seem to be touched by His power.  

Then I have to sit around and wonder why someone would be so willing to put their church or their ideas of church before the idea that God is almighty.  Why would anyone sit around and firmly believe and adamantly argue that God can't do anything without their idea of of church?  Don't they know that they lessen the power of God even in their own mind when they do that.  

That's my rant.



Title: Re:Theif of Hope and Robber of Joy
Post by: Gracey on June 24, 2004, 01:30:55 PM
Psa 5:11  But let all who put their trust in You rejoice; let them always shout for joy, because You defend them. And let those who love Your name be joyful in You.

Psa 51:12  Restore to me the joy of Your salvation, and uphold me with a willing spirit.

Isa 61:10  I will greatly rejoice in Jehovah, my soul will be joyful in my God; for He has clothed me with the robes of salvation, He covered me with the robe of righteousness like a bridegroom adorns himself with ornaments, and like a bride adorns herself with her jewels.

Don't let someone else rob you of your joy; where did that joycome from? The "joy of the Lord".....

Rejoice always in Him candace; look to him to restore it.

Psa 39:7  And now, Lord, what do I wait for? My hope is in You.
Psa 62:5  My soul, be silent only to God; for my hope is from Him

Gracey