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Title: romantic help in the bible?
Post by: bemanisuperstar on May 31, 2004, 04:33:11 PM
nobody can help me with this.

Where in the bible can I turn for help with my romantic life


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: MalkyEL on May 31, 2004, 06:27:53 PM
That depends on what exactly you are looking for.  Perhaps to start, you can read 1 Corinthians 13  ;D

Shalom, MalkyEL  8)


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: bemanisuperstar on May 31, 2004, 08:32:41 PM
Finally someplace to start.

whenever I ask chrstians about romance issues they give me some half baked answer like "When God Feels you're ready"

Total Cop out answer.

Thanks a bunch for that start....

Ok read it.

that was pretty basic but a good start

How about a passage about meeting somebody?

My biggest problem romantically is finding somebody. I don't know where to look for miss right and my church discorages singles groups.

Anything in the bible that can help me cope with that and set me on the right path to finding miss right


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: Aiki Storm on June 01, 2004, 08:45:33 AM
I was once in this same situation.  I felt like I was never going to meet 'the one'.  Many years later I gave my life back to the Lord and asked Him to be in charge of my love life. I tried to be the one in charge and do things by myself and it got me in a lot of trouble.  I asked God to help guide us to each other in His time and not mine.  That was the hard part but He gave my strength and faith.  Months later I met my wife on a christian chat site.  Pray and believe that He answered you with all your heart and your prayer will be answered. It must be in God's will though.  Mark 11:24 helped me out big time!  It may not be the answer you thought you were in need of however.  
     As far as romance stories in the bible, The book of Ruth is a dandy!  Then song of songs.  
Peace


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: Gracey on June 01, 2004, 04:27:20 PM
song of solomon?
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary says this about the book:

Song of Solomon -
This book is a Divine allegory, which represents the love between Christ and his church of true believers, under figures taken from the relation and affection that subsist between a bridegroom and his espoused bride; an emblem often employed in Scripture, as describing the nearest, firmest, and most sure relation





Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: Aiki Storm on June 01, 2004, 05:07:46 PM
song of solomon?
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary says this about the book:

Song of Solomon -
This book is a Divine allegory, which represents the love between Christ and his church of true believers, under figures taken from the relation and affection that subsist between a bridegroom and his espoused bride; an emblem often employed in Scripture, as describing the nearest, firmest, and most sure relation

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Yes this is an old debate.  I personally don't think it was intended to be represented as the relationship of Christ and His church.  Even though a Godly marriage is a reflection of Jesus's love for the church.  And new christians that read this believing that it is describing Jesus love for the church may come up with some pretty twisted thoughts in their heads.  See Luke 17

Sorry to get off the subject



Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: MalkyEL on June 01, 2004, 06:17:45 PM
Aiki Storm wrote:
Yes this is an old debate.  I personally don't think it was intended to be represented as the relationship of Christ and His church.  Even though a Godly marriage is a reflection of Jesus's love for the church.  And new christians that read this believing that it is describing Jesus love for the church may come up with some pretty twisted thoughts in their heads.  See Luke 17

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If the Song of Solomon is inspired Scripture - twisted thoughts? perhaps you could elaborate.

Also, after reading Luke 17 - I think I am missing your point - could you give us a little more detail as to what direction this is all heading  ;)

Thanx and shalom,  MalkyEL   8)



Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: Aiki Storm on June 01, 2004, 07:03:01 PM
Aiki Storm wrote:
Yes this is an old debate.  I personally don't think it was intended to be represented as the relationship of Christ and His church.  Even though a Godly marriage is a reflection of Jesus's love for the church.  And new christians that read this believing that it is describing Jesus love for the church may come up with some pretty twisted thoughts in their heads.  See Luke 17

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If the Song of Solomon is inspired Scripture - twisted thoughts? perhaps you could elaborate.

Also, after reading Luke 17 - I think I am missing your point - could you give us a little more detail as to what direction this is all heading  ;)

Thanx and shalom,  MalkyEL   8)


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I don't believe that this book is describing Jesus's love for the church.  I think it is describing or showing love between two people(man and woman).  I see many passages in this book that are sexual in nature and I don't think God would express His love to us this way.  I also think that new christians may get confused by this if they are told that it is symbloic of Jesus's love for the church.  
That is why I don't think it is symbolic.
I do believe that Godly marriage is a reflection of Jesus's love for the church however.
Luke 17 deals with warnings about leading little ones/new christians astray and causing them to sin.


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: Gracey on June 01, 2004, 07:14:40 PM
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Allegory: An expressive style that uses fictional characters and events to describe some subject by suggestive resemblances; an extended metaphor

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I think it is describing or showing love between two people(man and woman).  

I think you missed the point, Aiki: the book describes (as indicated in my previous post) the relationship between a bridegroom (man) and his betrothed (woman) and is USED as an allegory of the relationship between Christ and his church. The passages do indeed describe human love.

There are some wonderfully beautiful descriptions in that book.

Gracey


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: Aiki Storm on June 02, 2004, 10:58:48 AM
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Allegory: An expressive style that uses fictional characters and events to describe some subject by suggestive resemblances; an extended metaphor

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I think it is describing or showing love between two people(man and woman).  

I think you missed the point, Aiki: the book describes (as indicated in my previous post) the relationship between a bridegroom (man) and his betrothed (woman) and is USED as an allegory of the relationship between Christ and his church. The passages do indeed describe human love.

There are some wonderfully beautiful descriptions in that book.

Gracey
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Yes I also agree that the passages are written and used to describe the love that is intended to be shared between a man and a woman that have been brought together before God.  I do not believe that it was written as an allegory however.  I can see parts of it that fit but there are just too many that don't feel like the description of a loving relationship between me and the Lord.  There are many other ways to describe it.  Just my opinion though. :)


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: ollie on June 07, 2004, 05:42:17 PM
nobody can help me with this.

Where in the bible can I turn for help with my romantic life
Here is a good place to start:

1 Corinthians 7:2.  Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

Ollie


Title: Maybe marriage isn't for you
Post by: homie on June 08, 2004, 06:20:09 PM
Marriage isn't for everyone, this is clear in the Bible. I used to be like you, always wanting to hook up with someone, and to be frank it was just because I wanted sex but didn't want to sin by having premarital sex. Now I have come to accept that I might not have that in my life, if it happens it happens, if not - it doesn't matter. What's a mere 70 years on earth compared to eternity?

If you find a nice christian girl and marriage is not interfering with God's plans for you, then go with it. If not, don't beat yourself up about it, sex is not everything.

1Co 7:1-2 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

So basically: You're better off without women, but to avoid sinning: get hitched.

Also, there are some nice ones in proverbs:

Proverbs 21:9 It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.

Proverbs 21:19 It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.

Just some food for thoght ;)


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: ollie on June 08, 2004, 06:24:28 PM
"Just some food for thoght"

And I was hungry for your offered menu.

Thanks,
Ollie


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: Aiki Storm on June 09, 2004, 11:36:44 AM
Yeah.  If everyone took Paul's advice we would not be here to discuss it.  :-\


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: homie on June 09, 2004, 11:49:03 AM
But you know, and I know and Paul knew that almost no one would follow his advice anyway. Besides, the thread starter isn't thinking of finding a mate because he fears mankind will die out due to low child birth rates, he is in it for the S-E-X


Title: Re:romantic help in the bible?
Post by: infotechadviser on June 11, 2004, 12:53:26 AM
And believe it or not, there's no sin in that. "It is better to marry than to burn", said Paul.  ;)  And "let them marry; they sin not". Without sex, you can just stay good friends with somebody. God put this yearning in us for that companionship and the physical expression of it.

I'm sure that's one reason God put the book there, Song of Solomon. There are plenty of parallels with Christ's relationship with his people, the Church, and intentionally so, but it is obviously also describing very phsyical acts, albeit in sometimes poetic language, sometimes frankly literal. It is a beautiful thing, made by God for us and for Himself, and He thinks so much of everything that goes along with the marriage and the marriage bed (excuse the language) that He uses it to describe His own relationship to us. "The marriage supper of the Lamb..", for example.

That said, take those verses from "homie" very seriously about "finding the wrong mate", and that's from experience.

Find someone whom you can make happy.

- Alan