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Title: do I still have salvation? Post by: David_james on April 07, 2011, 04:36:58 PM I am really spiritually depressed and have little to no faith. I don't even know if I love God. If I did, wouldn't I want to read his word and pray to him?
Title: Re: do I still have salvation? Post by: Soldier4Christ on April 07, 2011, 05:05:03 PM Brother David, as I have said to you several times before we all have our struggles and our doubts from time to time, some more so than others, yet still it does happen. To repeat the words of Paul "for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day." When you accepted Christ as Lord and Savior you committed yourself to Him and according to His promises He will not leave nor forsake us. Yes, for us it can be a day to day struggle but God is always there to help us, to lift us up and to keep us in His love.
I am glad that in these times that you feel this way that you come here to us. It is time such as this that we need to reassure each other and to also turn to Him which is even greater and able to help in those times even more than we can help each other. At the times in which you find yourself unable to read His word or pray it may help to join us here in a studying His word. Title: Re: do I still have salvation? Post by: nChrist on April 14, 2011, 06:03:05 PM Hello Brother David,
First, I'm sorry that I missed this until now, and I agree 100% with what Pastor Roger told you. We all have our ups and downs, and that would be magnified with health problems. Many of us have health problems to deal with, but not nearly as severe as what you deal with every day. I can imagine that it would be more difficult for you to stay up and positive with the illness you are dealing with. The answer for all of us is to concentrate on God's Promises to us and always remember that this short life is not all there is. I've said it before, but I want to say it again - this short life is like the blink of an eye compared to what God has planned and prepared for us. Regardless, it's hard for us to keep things in perspective. We think of today and tomorrow while God thinks of Eternity. In this short life, we will all eventually have trials, troubles, and illnesses. As Children of God, we are different from the world because we can ask God to walk with us, and that's what I suggest that you do. Brother David, please know that you are in my prayers every day. In the meantime - KEEP LOOKING UP! Love In Christ, Tom 2 Corinthians 1:1-11 KJV 1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia: 2 Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; 4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God. 5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ. 6 And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer: or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation. 7 And our hope of you is stedfast, knowing, that as ye are partakers of the sufferings, so shall ye be also of the consolation. 8 For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even of life: 9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead: 10 Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us; 11 Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf. Romans 8:16-28 KJV The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. 24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? 25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. 26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 2 Corinthians 5:1-21 KJV 1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: 3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. 4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life. 5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit. 6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. 12 For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart. 13 For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause. 14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. 16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Title: Re: do I still have salvation? Post by: Dr Dean Crosby on April 27, 2012, 11:39:57 AM Your description look like depression,which robs people of spirituality,might be your problem.This problem will not rob you of salvation if you have received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit but you should promptly seek counseling help if you are being burdened with depression.
Title: Re: do I still have salvation? Post by: Didymus on June 14, 2012, 06:23:38 AM Your description look like depression,which robs people of spirituality,might be your problem.This problem will not rob you of salvation if you have received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit but you should promptly seek counseling help if you are being burdened with depression. Depression isn't always spiritual in nature. Living in this fallen world, we are subject to many illnesses, mental and physical. It could be a chemical imbalance. Sometimes depression is associated with life events, like the death of a loved one, or a breakup, etc. I think you should see a psychiatrist and let him/her know all that you're feeling, how long you've felt that way, problems in your life, etc. It is no sin to seek medical help when we feel emotionally ill, just like it's no sin to have hypertension or diabetes. Too many people (especially Christians) suffer in silence because they think they lack faith, or have committed some sin that God is angry about. Unfounded guilt is a huge part of depression. You don't have to suffer like this, brother. With God's help you can be happy again. Sometimes God works through doctors if it's something physical affecting our mood. I know that untreated depression will only get worse. Whatever you do, don't let another day go by with an illness that can be helped. Didymus |