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A better question to ask is how could God have left us out? We know that the Gulf War of 1991 was in the bible in Isaiah 13 & 14 and Jeremiah 50 & 51. The United States played a prominent role in that war. And now in 2003, we are leading the way in the follow-up to that war. So we go back to the question, how could the United States be left out of the Bible? The answer is that they were not left out. In 2 Samuel 8 14:18 the scripture speaks about the garrisons of guards that King David established to guard his throne and his kingdom. King David was king over Israel. In verse 18 of 2 Samuel chapters 8, the word cherethites was used to describe one of the garrisons. The cherethites had the prestigious job of guarding the “throne”; they were the bodyguards to the throne. The prophet Zephaniah issues a “woe” to the “Nation” of cherethites, the inhabitants of the seacoast in the last days. Clearly the Nation of bodyguards to the government of Israel is none other than the United States of America. By description alone, we cannot deny that this prophecy is related to the United States and that God has issued a “woe” against our nation.

But civil disobedience is not for God’s people. Christ says that they that live by the sword shall die by the sword. In other words, violence begets violence. As God’s children, we should encourage peace in all aspects of our lives. Although we live in this world we are not to be “of” this world. We must remember the commandment to “be ye separate”. We must separate ourselves from the political, economic, educational, social and military cares of this world. How is this done? How can we live “in” this world and not be concerned with what goes on around us? The answer is that we are to take our cares and burdens to God in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, in prayer. We must have faith in the power of prayer. Even if we do not agree, we must pray for our nation, our President, his cabinet, the men and women of the civil service, the men and women of the military. We must pray that God would lead them and guide them that he would lead them away from temptation and deliver them from evil. We must pray that the Lord God will dwell with them and give them strength to walk before him in righteousness so that they may do his will on earth. We must remember the words of the Lord, to judge not, lest ye be judged. If all the leaders of the nations were together in one room, who among them would be worthy to cast the first stone? All of the nations have sinned against God. We should not provoke each other to anger. This is the root cause of the Israeli and Palestinian conflict. The Children of God must all remember the words of God in Leviticus, that the stranger who lives among us is to be treated as one of us. Let us put aside our petty differences and racial hatred and come into full compliance with the word of God. Many of the men and women who are doing their best to make the best decisions on behalf of our country are just like you and I. Mere mortals. We make mistakes. Let us find our path in God. Pray for our leaders and our nations and world as a whole. Let us return to God with repentance and thanksgiving. Let us pray.

Of course they are along with Britain and the Commonwealth.

The British Empire was the greatest empire this world has ever seen do you think that God would not be involved in that.

USA > a pile of radioactive dust

Yes.

In the general sense of a nation turning from God and reveling in sin.

That would explain the problem I have with my lawn every spring   :D

j/k

Grace and Peace!

Re Radio-active dust.

Yes America will, along with Britain be taken into captivity.  All their cities will be destroyed

 ;D

Hahaha. Now kids, I thought we where playing Left Behind! Are we playing Thunderdome now? Oh, oh, can I be Mad Max?

Really people, America has a LONG way to fall before it is destroyed.  ::)

Tibby: let us suppose you are right....   let's just say all this left-behind stuff is not-cool, undone, etc. And all that Tina Turner stuff is just waaay to eighties....

Why are you even answering, spare yourself the agony, delete your posts, sit in your backgarden and watch the telly.
Don't turn on the news though, skip the uncensored satelliete channels and become a statistic. Join the majority !

The majority? You mean the realists? Or did you mean those who where NOT standing on there roof at 11:59 on December 31, 1999, shouting “I’m Ready!”? ::)

Besides, if the world really is going to end, mocking the Gnostics is all I have left ;)

  Read Revelation 18 and consider the traits spoken of the Babylon God judges in that chapter. America seems to fit that profile. Of course, America is one of the isles spoken of generally is Scripture also.

The USA is described in Revelation 13 It is the 2 horned beast).

Now that we are the dominate power in the world...the USA will lead the rest of the world in the taking of the "Mark of the Beast" scenerio....as scripture says.

Without no doubt, the United States is describe in Revelation 13:11 to be more exact Dare. ;)

I keep seeing the USA, the British Empire, and the EU all thrown around - me thinks, guys, that the United Nations is the beast to beware of.

It's time to wake up and smell the Kofi.   ;D

Is the United States of America in prophecy?


The answer is YES..

It is found at Zecariah 12, the good USA is listed among the nations of the world, which comes against Jerusalem, in that day.

Cahpters 13 and 14, are must read also.


Blessings,

Petro

Actaully, you are quite right. There is a christian rise in the US as of now. Atheist bands are falling, and making way For Christian Bands. As for me, I hope to create my Own Christian Rock Band.

dO WE THINK IN THE SCOPE OF THINGS OF ALL TIME USA IS THAT RELIVANT, THAT ITS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE.?
I DIDNT KNOW HALMARK GREETING CARDS WENT BACK THAT FAR .

The U.S. in the Bible Prophecy?

In the book of Revelation, chapter 13, some details are given about the first beast, commonly known as the antichrist:

"And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations" (Rev.13:7).

It is an indisputable Biblical fact that the U.S. will be under the authority of the first beast as he will have authority over "ALL NATIONS." Yes, the U.S. is still A NATION. This means one of two things must happen; either the U.S. will produce the beast, or will be conquered by him. At this time the U.S. has the most powerful military in the history of the world. For the first time in its history, the U.S. has no formidable military foe. The Bible also says:

"And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him" (Rev. 13:4). NOBODY!!


The generation that has seen the nation Israel established again in the Promised Land again on May 14, 1948 will not pass until "all these things be fulfilled" (Matthew 24:32-34). Yes, the U.S. is in Bible prophecy. Yes, the Rapture must occur immediately before the 7-yr. tribulation. Yes, the U.S. can produce the antichrist beast, (i doubt it though.) Is he in the White House now!? Time will tell!?  Presently, President Bush has introduced a "roadmap to Israeli peace." Obviously, the president doesn't know there will be no peace in Israel until the "Prince of Peace," the Lord Jesus Christ, returns to establish His kingdom on earth for 1,000 yrs. President Bush is deceived, as are his many "Christian" followers.

"It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes" (Psalm 118:9).

I myself don't really believe this but, I look to the EU., to be the beast.

Go in peace with God.
DW

No! I've read through most of the posts, and what we have is nothing but opinions. Very little, if any scripture is presented.

The end-time events are centered around Israel and the middle east.

America stands on very solid ground from 2 very important biblical principles: 1. we are friends with Israel and therefore a SHEEP nation and 2. More gospel goes out of the good ole U.S. of A. than any other country in the world.

aw

1. Not all the country is apart of the sheep. :'(
2. James 2:14-26 - Faith and Deeds
In verse 2:14, James speaks of a person having faith without deeds and asks, "Can such faith save him?" Can it?

No. Faith without works is what might be called intellectual assent or agreement with a Christian set of teachings, but it would be an incomplete faith. True faith transforms our conduct as well as our thoughts. If our lives remain unchanged, we don't truly believe the truths we claim to believe.

What does Jesus say about faith and works (Matthew 7:26-27)?
Faith without deeds is no different than building a house on sand, which is quickly washed away.

Doesn't James 2:18 contradict Paul in Romans 3:28 when he writes "man is justified (saved) by faith without the deeds (works) of the law"?

They appear to, but actually Paul is speaking out against those who attempt to be saved by deeds instead of true faith. Paul was also speaking to Jews who believed that to be saved, one must obey the laws of Moses. While it is true that our deeds cannot earn salvation, true faith always results in a changed life and good deeds. Bottom line: faith brings us salvation; active obedience demonstrates that our faith is genuine.

Go in peace with God.
DW

And on very flaky ground for failing to feed the hungry and cloth the naked.  Like just about every other western nation.

I'd also be interested to know what
means?

I believe they mean "Good Deeds."  ::)

America stands on very solid ground from 2 very important biblical principles: 1. we are friends with Israel and therefore a SHEEP nation and 2. More gospel goes out of the good ole U.S. of A. than any other country in the world.

aw
And on very flaky ground for failing to feed the hungry and cloth the naked.  Like just about every other western nation.

Reply: I do not think this post or the one above it reflects an understanding of the SHEEP/GOAT Judgment. It has nothing in this world to do with the Church! It is a JUDGEMENT of the NATIONS and the criteria is how they treated Christ's brethren the Jews during the TRIBULATION. It will occur on the THRONE OF HIS GLORY and in the Valley of Jehosophat. The account is primarily in Mt 25:31-46.

If that is FLAKY then count me in. I don't know what descriptor should be given to one who does not comprehend these truths?

aw

Sounds like you need to go and re-read it to me.

AMEN
i have a feeling you got it about right brother.its not all about us (U.S.)

IMHO, there will not be a great deal of chaos, at least not anymore than now. I don't see all this worldwide economic collapse, etc, because it will be "AS in the days of Noah." Things remained fairly routine.
aw

Gen 15:18

18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
KJV
   America goes from sea to shinning sea but not from the river of Egypt to the Euphrates.

Sorry to be brief but I been reading all day and I'm tired.

The first beast comes from the 'sea':

This would be Europe, which was ten kingdoms but the 'eleventh' being the 'Vatican' nestled among the 'seven hills' arose and smite three kingdoms:

And 'sea' actually stands for:

The first beast is the brutal rule of the Roman Catholics over bible-believing protestants in the dark ages, where millions of true believers were killed by emporers who enforced the corrupted 'catholic' (which means universal) union of Christianity and Greek paganism and carried over into post-Roman, divided Europe.

If water means out of the population, then what could this represent?:

Columbus had to sail to the Americas, which were only sparsely inhabited by Native Americans. And the two horns of rule for this beast were 'lamb-like' or gentle. Meaning perhaps civil liberty and religeous liberty. But the second beast eventually 'spoke like a dragon', or non-gently, with it's rulership, most likely speaking of our future in the good ol' U.S. of A. since we still do as of yet enjoy these freedoms.

[Deuteronomy 32:11]
"AS AN EAGLE STIRRETH UP HER NEST, FLUTTERETH OVER HER YOUNG, SPREADETH ABROAD HER WINGS, TAKETH THEM, BEARETH THEM ON HER WINGS"

The Bald-Headed Eagle

We saw how the geographical extremities of Continental masses, or ends of the earth, were connected in Scripture to the Lost Ten Tribes and their whereabouts in the end times.  One of the passages we referred to was from Isaiah:  


[Isaiah 43;6:]
"I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back; bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ENDS OF THE EARTH".


In commenting on this verse the North Country with the return of the exiles and an eagle, the symbol of the USA:


[Deuteronomy 32:11]
 "AS AN EAGLE STIRRETH UP HER NEST, FLUTTERETH OVER HER YOUNG, SPREADETH ABROAD HER WINGS, TAKETH THEM, BEARETH THEM ON HER WINGS".


A bald-headed eagle is the symbol of the USA.

Micah chapter one tells of the prophecy that came to him CONCERNING SAMARIA AND JERUSALEM (1:1) meaning the Lost Ten Tribes and Judah.

He goes on to say:


[Micah 1:5]
"FOR THE TRANSGRESSION OF JACOB IS ALL THIS, AND FOR THE SINS OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. WHAT IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF JACOB? IS IT NOT SAMARIA? AND WHAT ARE THE HIGH PLACES OF JUDAH? ARE THEY NOT JERUSALEM?"


Micah links Jacob with Samaria. Samaria was a major city in Manasseh and at one stage the capital of the entire Northern Kingdom. In Prophecy 'Samaria' represents the Lost Ten Tribes in their place of exile. Jacob is also  linked with Samaria. The nickname Yank (American) derives from the Hebrew form of Jacob. Both Judah and Samaria are being warned here. Then warning is given to the townships of Aphrah (1:10), Saphir, Zanaan, and Bethezel (1:11), Maroth (1:12), Lachish (1:13), Oresheth-Gath, Achzib (1:14), Mareshah, and Adullam (1:16).  There follows a reference to the baldness of an eagle:


[Micah 1:16]
"MAKE THEE BALD, AND POLL THEE FOR THY DELICATE CHILDREN; ENLARGE THY BALDNESS AS THE EAGLE; FOR THEY ARE GONE INTO CAPTIVITY FROM THEE".


All of the above places appear to have belonged to either Benjamin or Judah. These all appear to be places whose inhabitants were exiled by the Assyrians and who joined the Ten Tribes in exile. The Lost Ten Tribes also include many from the southern tribes of Judah and Benjamin, just as Judah eventually included many from The Lost Ten Tribes.  ENLARGE THY BALDNESS AS THE EAGLE The bald-headed eagle is the symbol of the USA.

The eagle in Scripture in some cases can symbolize the enemies of Israel: (Deuteronomy 28:4, Habakkuk 1:8, Obadiah 1:4 Lamentations 4:19 Jeremiah 4:13 Jeremiah 49:16). Historically the eagle was the symbol of the Roman Empire, of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, of the German Reich, of Poland, and probably of other nations as well most of whom was much of the time antagonistic to the Jewish and Israelite peoples.

The eagle can also represent the God of Israel, the righteous amongst the people of Israel, and their salvation (Exodus 19:4 Deuteronomy 32:11 Isaiah 40:31).

The eagle is one of the four creatures in the chariot of Ezekiel (1:10).

Ezekiel, chapter 17, speaks of two eagles both representing aspects of the exile of Israel and Judah, or of Judah only.

At all events Micah 1:16 speaks of the baldness of the eagle in connection with the exile of townships of Judah, who were about to join the Lost Ten Tribes in Exile and be considered as part of them.

To my mind this is significant but others may not be so impressed. At all events it is one indication amongst very many others and should be considered as part of the whole.

Oklahoma Howdy to Dreamweaver,

THANKS! This is interesting, and I'll have to put it on my list for additional study. I rarely ever say that a particular place or event is the actual fulfillment of Bible prophecy unless we are talking about ancient events and places. I would say that some events over the past 50 years might be the fulfillment of prophecy. I would say for certain that all Bible prophecy will be fulfilled, and I'm positive that the description given in the Bible will be completely accurate, down to the last detail.

I love to study Bible prophecy, but I avoid trying to set dates and say specifics were met. However, I do feel comfortable saying that we may be seeing a preview of the end of this age. I also would say that I have Biblical reasons why I would never do anything to harm Israel. I'm absolutely positive that Biblical prophecy will come to pass, regardless of what I and other men do, but I will never knowingly help the forces of evil that will most definitely rise.

Thanks for a fascinating addition to my list of things I want to study. At this point, I don't think that I will live long enough to study all of the things on my list, but I'll have fun trying until the Lord takes me home.

Love In Christ,
Tom  

Where the heck do you see this at in the bible? It was the jews in  Jerusalem in 70ad that was taken captive by the roman army and scattered thruout the world. What do you think revelation is about in the first place?
     What "holy city" resided back during that time? It is a jewish city being destroyed in revelation, not the world.

Ezekiel 4:4 " Lie also on your left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel(10 tribes) upon it. [According] to the number of the days that you lie on it, you shall bear their iniquity. 5 "For I have laid on you the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, 390 days; so you shall bear the iniquity of the house of Israel. 6 "And when you have completed them, lie again on your right side; then you shall bear the iniquity of the house of Judah(2 tribes) forty days. I have laid on you a day for each year. 7 "Therefore you shall set your face toward the siege of Jerusalem; your arm [shall be] uncovered, and you shall prophesy against it. 8 "And surely I will restrain you so that you cannot turn from one side to another till you have ended the days of your siege.
IF YOU ADD 40YRS TO THE ANNOTING OF the "Messiah" AT AGE 30, THAT WOULD BE 70AD(2TRIBES OF JUDAH/BEAST OUT OF THE EARTH?)
IF YOU ADD 390 YRS TO "Messiah" AT AGE 30 THAT WOULD BE 420AD (10 TRIBES OF ISRAEL/BEAST OUT OF THE SEA?).
The West Roman Empire grew steadily weaker. The Vandals, Visigoths, and other Germanic peoples invaded Spain, Gaul, and northern Africa. In 410 AD the Visigoths looted Rome. The fall of the empire is often dated 476. That year, the Germanic chieftain Odoacer forced Romulus Augustulus, the last ruler of the empire, from the throne. Germanic chiefs had already begun to carve up the empire into several kingdoms. The East Roman Empire survived as the Byzantine Empire until 1453, when the Turks captured Constantinople.

 Ezekiel 5:8 "therefore thus says the Lord GOD: 'Indeed I, even I, [am] against you and will execute judgments in your midst in the sight of the nations. 9 'And I will do among you what I have never done, and the like of which I will never do again, because of all your abominations. 12 'One-third of you shall die of the pestilence, and be consumed with famine in your midst; and one-third shall fall by the sword all around you; and I will scatter another third to all the winds, and I will draw out a sword after them. 13 ' Thus shall My anger be spent, and I will cause My fury to rest upon them, and I will be avenged; and they shall know that I, the LORD, have spoken [it] in My zeal, when I have spent My fury upon them.

I think we, as a nation, will be destroyed pyhsically or economically so that we will be easily subdued.  Today it is not that far-fetched at all.  All nations will have a part in attacking Jerusalem.  All available nations anyway.