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Title: Women Priest
Post by: MATTHEW24:14 on November 09, 2007, 07:20:25 PM
      Rules : Disgraceful
It is written and must be known. { It is unmistakable clear}
1Corinthians 14:34
Women should remain silent in churches. They are not allowed to speak,
but must be in submission , as the law says.
1Cointhians 14:35
If they want to inquire about something,
they should ask their husbands at home,
for it is disgraceful for a women
to speak in the church.
 1 Corinthians 11:3  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Ephesians 5:6  Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient.
Matthew 5:19  Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Galatians 1:8  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
Hebrews 10:26  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins,
Isaiah 55:11  so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.
Acts 20:26  Therefore, I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of all men.
 
Luke 19:40  "I tell you," he replied, "if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out."               [ I’m one of this Stones ]


Title: Re: Women Priest
Post by: sjoara on November 18, 2007, 06:01:05 AM
Ugh, I so dislike women preachers.

I mean I am a woman myself, but not only do I think its wrong biblically, but they typically are very boring.


Title: Re: Women Priest
Post by: daniel1212av on November 18, 2007, 02:35:56 PM
I hope you are referring to female pastors, not sacerdotal (Roman) priests, as the latter class are unBiblical, whether male or female. Let me know your thoughts on this (too much or to little restrictive): http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/WOMENPASTORS.html


Title: Re: Women Priest
Post by: carlotta on December 21, 2007, 09:14:30 PM
I am not a Biblical scholar by any means, but it certailnly seems to me that only men should be pastors. Not only do I think this is Biblical, but with men losing so much authority in society as a whole, and with the absence of fathers in so many families, and the number of single mothers,  I think that the retention of the traditional role of men as the authority in churches is vital to the survival of society. As men are more and more denigrated in the society, their authority in the churches should be magnified as a counterbalance.
Not that I see this happening!  It seems to me that more and more denominations are giving in to pressure and allowing women pastors.


Title: Re: Women Priest
Post by: David_james on December 23, 2007, 11:30:20 AM
It does seem women are not considered equal in the Bible. Women aren't even allowed to talk in church.

Yes there are important women in the Bible but only because they were called to it. Even then it was usually about giving birth to someone important but again, the attention goes to the husband and or the male child.

There are many more but I need to get to the point.

The point is, things have changed. I am not saying, change the Bible. I am saying is, we have to apply the Bible to the world of today. If we don't, we need to change alot of things we do.
For example, we can't drive cars or anything that causes pollution because pollution can harm our bodies. However that isn't practical.

Therefore not allowing women to preach isn't practical. Women are equal.


Title: Re: Women Priest
Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 23, 2007, 12:10:18 PM
The Bible does not place women as being unequal. The Bible teaches us that women are not to be above man, to rule over him. It also teaches that a family should be as the body of Christ. Only Christ is the head of the church. As such Jesus is the one that has the final say. If families were constructed where both parties are equal as far as leading the family then we would have two individual people that frequently would head in two completely different directions which is what we see in todays world and is the main cause of divorce. For this reason God gave an order to things by placing the man as head of the family. This does not mean that the woman is not equal and has absolutely no say in family matters. As the Bible also teaches us the man is to love his wife. If he truly loves his wife he will listen to her and truly consider her needs and desires in the marriage and will come to decisions that are equitable to all. He is not to be a tyrant or unjust in his decisions but rather to lead with love, consideration and gentle guidance. The woman is the man's helpmate, not his slave. There is a big difference.

The Bible equates a marriage with the body of Christ. In the body of Christ we have one and only one head of the church. The rest of the body all has it's place in achieving one objective. The health, growth and direction of the body, yet each one has a different function within that body.

Churches fail when everyone there attempts to do the same function or when each one goes their own way. This is also true in a marriage/family.