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Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on September 19, 2003, 08:49:11 AM
Which ones do you like?,or dislike?And the reasons.


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Royo on September 19, 2003, 01:21:10 PM
I can't think of any I like. Most of them seem to me to fit into Romans 16.17.
"For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple."

Love in Christ our Lord.   Roy.


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on September 19, 2003, 01:27:29 PM
How about Joel Osteen?T.D.Jakes?


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Tamara on September 23, 2003, 03:10:23 AM
I'm afraid I don't watch T.V. evangalism as they appear to be a little brash for me.  I don't wish to hurt anyone's feelings but, I feel they do nothing for me.  Maybe they do for others, but, I am of a simple faith and just don't need them.
Love..Tamara


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on September 23, 2003, 07:53:57 AM
If you ever have a chance to whatch joel osteen,check him out.every service starts like this...

This is my Bible.
I am what it says I am.
I can do what it says I can do.
Today I will be taught the Word of God.
I boldly confess my mind is alert, my heart is receptive.
I will never be the same.
I am about to receive the incorruptible, indestructible, ever-living seed of the Word of God.
I will never be the same.
Never, never, never.
I will never be the same. In Jesus name.


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: ebia on September 23, 2003, 07:57:40 AM
every service starts like this...
...
I will never be the same.
Never, never, never.
I will never be the same.
;D


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on September 23, 2003, 08:51:31 AM
i dont get it?


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: nChrist on September 23, 2003, 11:31:41 AM
I'm afraid I don't watch T.V. evangelism as they appear to be a little brash for me.  I don't wish to hurt anyone's feelings but, I feel they do nothing for me.  Maybe they do for others, but, I am of a simple faith and just don't need them.
Love..Tamara

Oklahoma Howdy to Tamara,

I don't think you will hurt anyone's feelings on this subject. I would say some some of the television evangelists are Godly and able ministers of HIS WORD. Others are there for money and other wrong reasons. My biggest problem with some of them is they divert resources from local assemblies and use the offerings they receive in a manner that is not pleasing to God.

On the other side of the coin, some television evangelists fill a void in reaching the lost who would not have heard the Gospel otherwise. It is also true that some of their audience are elderly and ill shut-ins who are not able to attend local services.

Regardless, this is a controversial topic for most Christians. Some make television evangelism a ministry of "give me money" and live lavish lifestyles or commit fraud with the offerings they receive. This is especially sad when many of those giving are very poor or living on fixed incomes.

In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: nChrist on September 23, 2003, 11:42:36 AM
i dont get it?

Oklahoma Howdy to Jabez,

Don't let Ebia get to you. She is making fun of the Christian thoughts you posted. Ebia is obviously lost and needs Jesus in her heart.

In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: ollie on September 26, 2003, 08:20:12 PM
I can't think of any I like. Most of them seem to me to fit into Romans 16.17.
"For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple."

Love in Christ our Lord.   Roy.
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Agreed!

They build very rich worldly empires!
However ocassionally they preach Christ and perhaps the Spirit will see that His message comes through all this passing of the collection plate.


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Mr. 5020 on September 27, 2003, 02:11:46 PM
There are a few that I like to listen to.

John Hagee
E.V. Hill (when they show his old ones)
Joel Osteen (hope I spelled his name right)

There are a few I cannot stand.

Benny Hinn (equivalent to the Christian WWE)
Rod Parsley (see above)

These healthy/wealthy/happy doctrined guys drive me nuts.  I wish they'd take them off the air and stop giving Christianity a bad name.  However, I try to remember the scripture:
Quote
Phillipians 1:15-18
15Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill:
16The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains;
17but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel.
18What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Tamara on September 27, 2003, 09:34:56 PM
Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, Marilyn Hickey, Kenneth Copeland...and his wife...
Something is desperately wrong there...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

They are the reason I switch off ANY T.V. evangelists.  I haven't heard those you speak of, but I do believe with all sincerity that our Heavenly Father would use correctness in some evangelists.  His sheep hear His voice!

Love..Tamara.


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Butterflywings on September 29, 2003, 09:34:14 AM
I don't watch any of the tv Preachers, just because I really don't know where they are coming from, most of them are asking for money and that is a turn off for me.  Look at the sets they have I could pay my bill's for a year or more with the money they put into them.  Oh and the make-up they wear some look like well you know......  


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Tamara on September 29, 2003, 09:42:32 AM
Ditto.  


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on September 29, 2003, 10:34:05 AM
Whatch joel osteen and tell me what you think,i beleive you will agree hes a good preacher..

T.D.Jakes dont you love it when they get loud!


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Tamara on September 30, 2003, 08:17:56 AM
I don't think Joel is on Australian T.V.  Otherwise, I would watch in order to answer.  But, I am strictly against T.V. hype regarding christianity.  I would far sooner watch a nice man, ordinarily dressed, preach the message.  
I do listen to Derek Prince tapes.  But as far as T.V. staged shows go...Benny Hinn turned me off.  Then I thought I'd allow room for another, so watched Joyce Meyer.  Never again.  I gave it another chance and watched Maralyn Hicky preaching that everybody would become a millionaire if they sowed seeds(money) into her church.  Then, I gave Kenneth Copeland a go and even subscribed to a book.  In the book he wrote " if people think they can be healed they'll come from anywhere"
Lies and deceit do not a nice person make.  Satan can perform 'miracles' too.  
Out of them all, I liked Marilyn Hickey the most.  But, once she uttered those words...no more.  
And...I believe in the words of Paul.  Women should keep silent in the church.  And, for believing in that so strictly some women have abused me.  They belong to the W.O.F. Movement.  
Love...Tamara.


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: maryann on October 18, 2003, 11:53:12 PM
    I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO CHARLES STANLEY AND JOYCE MEYERS
MOSTLY.   I HAVE NEVER TURNED STANLEY OFF AND JOYCE I HAVE
BECAUSE SHE WAS  TALKING TOO MUCH ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT
GIVE AND HOW THEY NEED TO BE MORE AWARE OF GOD SPEAKING TO
THEM.  WHEN SHE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT GIVING I LIKE WHAT SHE HAS
TO SAY BECAUSE SHE WANTS PEOPLE TO FOLLOW AND BE OBEDIENT
TO THE LORD.  BENNY HINN IS A TURNOFF.  KENNETH HAGIN WAS GOOD
BUT WE DO NOT GET HIM HERE IN LOS ANGELES ANYMORE.   I HAVE
HEARD JOEL SOMEBODY, HE WAS GOOD THE FEW TIMES I HEARD HIM.


Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Brother Love on October 24, 2003, 06:06:00 AM
Charles Stanley, is about it.

Brother Love :)


Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on October 26, 2003, 05:19:56 AM
I enjoy watching all the healers and tounges talkers, while I eat popcorn ;D Benny Hinn is my favorite ;D


Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Brother Love on October 27, 2003, 05:07:28 AM
I enjoy watching all the healers and tounges talkers, while I eat popcorn ;D Benny Hinn is my favorite ;D

LOL :)

Good idea :)

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on October 27, 2003, 07:48:39 PM
I find no humor in the names being called out by others!*(example Benn Hinn and others)*Ive seen it threw out the forums here.One qeustion How do you justify it?


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Brother Love on October 28, 2003, 06:04:34 AM
I find no humor in the names being called out by others!*(example Benn Hinn and others)*Ive seen it threw out the forums here.One qeustion How do you justify it?

I do :)

Lets watch Benny Hinn, and eat some good pizza :)
Then we can watch some other clowns loke Jimmy Swaggert, Pat Robertson, Oral and Richard Roberts, Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, (the glass building guy) and a few others.

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on October 28, 2003, 06:59:01 AM
BL, i suppose you think that is the christian thing to do?Make fun of people?


Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Brother Love on October 28, 2003, 07:34:42 AM
BL, i suppose you think that is the christian thing to do?Make fun of people?

With the likes that I listed YES!!!!!!

All of them are CLOWNS :)

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on October 28, 2003, 09:54:12 AM
Iam sorry you feel that way.


Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on October 28, 2003, 05:05:26 PM
Iam sorry you feel that way.

Brother Jabez,

I feel the same way as Brother Love, and please dont feel sorry for me. Just pray for those guys on Brother Loves list.



Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on October 28, 2003, 07:20:56 PM
I feel the same towards the false people teach and say,but i dont think its my place to say negatives about them.Though i will say i disagree with them.


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Raphu on November 04, 2003, 12:11:06 AM
Anyone remember when Ben Haden was on TV? He would preach about the difficult things with great wisdom, in my opinion. His web-site has messages for Windows media and real player.
 He was my favorite. When I see the appeal to people to buy faith or give to get, I am reminded of scripture In 2 Peter:

2:2  And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 ¶  And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.


2:18  For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19  While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: KiwiChristian on November 04, 2003, 02:06:38 PM
Colossians 4
6Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone


Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on November 04, 2003, 03:37:13 PM
Colossians 4
6Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone

DITTO ;D


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Willowbirch on November 05, 2003, 05:29:05 AM
Colossians 4
6Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone

DITTO ;D
Thank you for that salty "Ditto"!


Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on November 27, 2003, 09:41:04 AM
I find no humor in the names being called out by others!*(example Benn Hinn and others)*Ive seen it threw out the forums here.One qeustion How do you justify it?

For Christmas I want a backstage pass to a Benny Hinn Show ;D


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Willowbirch on November 27, 2003, 11:59:43 AM

For Christmas I want a backstage pass to a Benny Hinn Show ;D
I'll see what I can do, A4C!  ;D


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on November 27, 2003, 12:38:59 PM
Any thoughts on Jack Van Impe?Also known as the walking Bible?


Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on November 27, 2003, 02:10:59 PM

For Christmas I want a backstage pass to a Benny Hinn Show ;D
I'll see what I can do, A4C!  ;D

LOL Sister thanks ;D


Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on November 27, 2003, 02:12:11 PM
Any thoughts on Jack Van Impe?Also known as the walking Bible?

I forgot more about the Bible then he knows.


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Jabez on November 27, 2003, 08:32:32 PM
Whos boasting?


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Reba on November 27, 2003, 09:50:03 PM
I like James Kennedy.

TD Jakes is oneness penticostal  

 I can rememeber when Oral Roberts was  a lot younger! I well rememebr his asking for the millions or he would die. . .  I rememeber  a  dude named A A Allen he was a preacher creep and not even on TV.  

Dr  Gene Scott wrote very much of the "Stuff" ( sorry i dont know the correct word"  "theology packet"  could be the word) The Assemblies of God uses still today.  Scott was in Bibleschool in about 46 48 at  Glad Tidings in San Francisco. He is a major creep

Sheesh   Rex Humbard   Kathern Kolman (sp)


When they ask for $$$ and full well know many  old ladies wiht no real income support them, not  the ministry but  them i dont like it.


Title: Tv Preachers
Post by: Brother Love on November 28, 2003, 04:17:39 AM
I like James Kennedy.

TD Jakes is oneness penticostal  

 I can rememeber when Oral Roberts was  a lot younger! I well rememebr his asking for the millions or he would die. . .  I rememeber  a  dude named A A Allen he was a preacher creep and not even on TV.  

Dr  Gene Scott wrote very much of the "Stuff" ( sorry i dont know the correct word"  "theology packet"  could be the word) The Assemblies of God uses still today.  Scott was in Bibleschool in about 46 48 at  Glad Tidings in San Francisco. He is a major creep

Sheesh   Rex Humbard   Kathern Kolman (sp)


When they ask for $$$ and full well know many  old ladies wiht no real income support them, not  the ministry but  them i dont like it.


AMEN

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:Tv Preachers
Post by: Tamara on November 28, 2003, 04:29:47 AM
Ditto.