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Title: HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Allinall on September 12, 2003, 01:48:06 AM
It's always a blessing when someone comes to Christ, but it's even more of a blessing when that someone is one of your own!  Last night my 5 year old daughter came to know Christ as her Savior!  Hallelujah!!!


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Royo on September 12, 2003, 02:03:31 AM
Oh Allinall, what a great day of joy this is for you.
The angels in heaven are singing at this news, and I am singing praises to our Father also.
Praise be to God.


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Allinall on September 12, 2003, 02:17:00 AM
Thank you my friend!


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Brother Love on September 12, 2003, 04:43:32 AM
It's always a blessing when someone comes to Christ, but it's even more of a blessing when that someone is one of your own!  Last night my 5 year old daughter came to know Christ as her Savior!  Hallelujah!!!

Thanks for the good news

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEN!!!!!!!

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: nChrist on September 12, 2003, 06:55:51 AM
Oklahoma Howdy to Allinall,

All the Glory goes to Almighty God. I pray that God will continue to bless you and your family. Thanks for sharing your joy with us. Good news like this encourages all of God's children.

KEEP LOOKING UP!

In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: IrishAngel on September 12, 2003, 07:15:10 AM
Glory!  :D

"Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it." And he took the children in his arms, put his hands on them and blessed them. (Mark 10:13-16 NIV)


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Allinall on September 14, 2003, 11:56:51 PM
Just by way of update...

Ever since Courtney accepted Jesus as her Savior, I've been talking to her about the two requirements Jesus has for her to obey: to tell others and to be baptized.  She's deathly afraid of water, so the baptism is something that God will have to work on her heart towards.  Happily, she is very submissive - not to my advice or leading, but to God's.  How can I say this?  I told her that Jesus wants her to obey, and that Jesus commands her to tell others of what He has done for her.  I came over to the children's church this morning to get her for the invitation - an act I advised, but she determined she was wanting to do.  I asked her if she wanted to do this.  She said, through fearful tears, that she did.  I asked her again right then with the same response.  Namely, I don't want her obeying what she thinks daddy wants, but obeying what God wants.  On the way over to the church, I asked her if she just wanted to tell the pastor and have him tell everyone.  She said "No.  That's not what God wants me to do.  Pastor's already saved, so I need to tell them that I got saved."  I teared up!  From the mouths of babes...amen?


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Royo on September 15, 2003, 11:26:17 PM
Again, praise the Lord.
It always amazes me how He sometimes uses a child to put us in our place, or teach us.
As a lifelong bachelor, I consider you truly blesssed.
She must be such a joy in your life.

Blessings on you and your family.  Roy.


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Saved_4ever on September 16, 2003, 01:35:35 AM
Well that is quite a blessing to you all.  I can only pray that my 2 year old will accept Jesus in due time.  I imagine it must be quite difficult to see your own children not accept Christ as LORD and savior.  I think he's on the right track though.  I only have him 50% of the time but I do my best with him.  It's quite a treat to ask him "what do we do before we eat?" (I make sure to include my self in there no this for you but that for me) and then seeing him clasp his hands and babble incoherently and then eat.  I have as of late been asking him about the Amen to which he looks at me and smiles and says amen in that 23 month old voice.  Sometimes he says aami (short a sound) because his aunts name is Ami.  

It's pretty cute and encouraging at the same time.

God bless,
Jason


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Allinall on September 16, 2003, 01:55:33 AM
Royo,

I do indeed feel blessed brother.  I do indeed.   :)


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Allinall on September 16, 2003, 02:02:32 AM
Saved,

I agree!  In praying with my daughters before bed, I used to have them repeat after me, as sort of a training tool.  I'd thank God for the food we'd eaten that day, for the rest we were to get, for family and such things, and for help in obeying Him as well as for needs of others.  This worked fairly well, until one day I just told them that I would pray, then they would pray.  My 2 year old daughter Caity would pray.  Ya know what was so sweet about it?  She'd pray "Dear Jesus, tank you for dis day, tank you for woving me, help me obey, help me be safe..." and then she'd tell Him all about her day in a similar but much less understandable mumble!

They soak up what we teach them, both good and bad.  You may only have a little time with your son, but your focus is right.  That pans out more than I think we realize - case in point!  God is gracious brother.


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: AAAAmember on September 16, 2003, 09:15:49 AM
Is five years old an age where a child could accept Christianity as their own personal religion?  Or is it an age where the child simply wants to make their parents happy so they say "I'm saved" just to earn praise?

Not to criticize...I'm just making a point.  Wouldn't it be more rewarding if your daughter had come to her own decision to accept Christ?

~AAAA


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Symphony on September 16, 2003, 09:43:11 AM

Someone has to tell, or teach, the one who doesn't know, A4.  Otherwise, how are they going to know?   Especially, if it's one of your own children!!??

I think All was careful to mention that it was uncoerced.

Children just naturally want to come to know Jesus.  They instinctively know that this world is a terrible and evil place(just ask all the aborted babies).  


AllinAll, would it be possible to get a different picture of yourself??


      ::)


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Jabez on September 16, 2003, 09:58:53 AM
I heard a story once,and i cant seem to find it now,so ill do my best to tell it in short..

There was a mom and a 5 year old girl at a baseball game whatching her son play.As they were sitting in the bleachers,a storm was brewing out in the distance.The wind started to pick up,and blew through the ball feild.The mom noticed her little girl with a smile on her face and asked what was going on,the little girl said,do you smell that?The mom answered no what is it?The girl said it is Jesus,i remember his smell from when he held me when i was sick.Needless to say the moms eyes welled up with tears as she hugged her daughter,for she remembered when she almost lost her girl 2 years before.

Well thats the basic story,i know i didnt do it justice,so if someone knows the story could you please post it?Thanks



Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: nChrist on September 16, 2003, 10:06:31 AM
Is five years old an age where a child could accept Christianity as their own personal religion?  Or is it an age where the child simply wants to make their parents happy so they say "I'm saved" just to earn praise?

Not to criticize...I'm just making a point.  Wouldn't it be more rewarding if your daughter had come to her own decision to accept Christ?

~aaaa

aaaa,

This is a new low for you and certainly not a place or time to make "oh great darkness - void - nothing points". This would be a perfect example of why everyone needs an "ignore button" for you. aaaa, this is a precious family time you should have left alone.  I thought about deleting your post, but it's a picture of you with your horns showing, a graphic example of who you really are. Please don't respond to this post.


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Jabez on September 16, 2003, 10:17:13 AM
Ephesians 6:1-4


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: nChrist on September 16, 2003, 10:39:57 AM
Ephesians 6:1-4

Oklahoma Howdy to Jabez,

Thanks Brother. This is one of many beautiful portions of Scripture for Christian families. I give thanks for my Godly parents.

In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: AAAAmember on September 16, 2003, 01:51:22 PM
A new low for me?  Ha!

Did I say "Allinall's child is stupid for believing in Jesus?"  Did I say that?  NO.  I simply wondered if her daughter was old enough to understand her decision.  I certainly knew nothing about the world when I was 5...or 9...or 13...or 16...and even at the age of 18, I still know that I know very little about the world.  However, I made the "choice" to become agnostic over a long period of time...and that "choice" means more to me because it was not forced upon me by my parents or anyone else.  It was my choice, and my beliefs.  All that I believe is because *I* believe it, not because I was forced to or tricked into it.

Now I'm not saying Allinall forced her daughter into becoming Christian (if I did say that, I'd surely be attacked!!!).  I'm just asking her *why* she thinks her daughter has said these things.  Was it because she really and truly made the mature decision to become Christian, or was it because she knew her mom wanted her to be a Christian so badly?  No child deliberately wants to disappoint their parents.

Censor me if you wish, BEP.  I don't believe what I said was a low.  I just think it's hypocritical that when a five year old decides to become Christian, it's a wonderful thing (AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT), but if that same child were to make any other decision, it would be terrible and she would be "too young to make a decision like that".

Just some things to think about.

Respectfully,
~AAAA

PS - Allinall, this is not a personal attack on you or on your family in any way.  Thank you.


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Symphony on September 16, 2003, 08:44:07 PM

   ::)


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: AAAAmember on September 16, 2003, 10:03:29 PM
I can tell you put some thought into that reply, Symph.

~AAAA


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Whitehorse on September 16, 2003, 10:24:10 PM
Is five years old an age where a child could accept Christianity as their own personal religion?  Or is it an age where the child simply wants to make their parents happy so they say "I'm saved" just to earn praise?

Not to criticize...I'm just making a point.  Wouldn't it be more rewarding if your daughter had come to her own decision to accept Christ?

~AAAA

This is actually the best time-no skepticism or large sins to conquer. Adults have a harder time having the childlike faith Jesus requires in Matthew 19:13-15 and Matthew 18:1-9.

I was younger than this when I came to Christ.


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: admin on September 16, 2003, 11:22:12 PM
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein. Luke 18:17


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Allinall on September 17, 2003, 12:36:24 AM
AAA,

Ok.  I just want to set one thing straight...I am not a she.  I am a he.  I am her father.  Ok.  Now I feel better.  

Seriously though, as for my daughter's decision towards Christianity, that's the beauty of it!  She didn't decide to be a christian - she decided to obey God's calling of her to repentance for her sins.  She recognized this on her own.  Not from my demands.  From my teaching?  Yes.  Furthermore, she claimed to have already made this decision earlier, but I didn't believe it.  Why?  Because she had no understanding of what she was saying.  She was parroting what she'd been taught in Sunday School.  And there were no fruits in her life to prove this.  Now, there is an understanding of what her sin means, and what the price of her sin cost her Savior.  She understands.

What's more, she even has an impressive discernment already!  Her first question to her mother after she was saved was if she made a mistake, that she didn't need to be saved again.  We had never discussed that once before.  I know her teachers and their lessons, and am certain that was never brought up.  She knew.  She understood.

Do you know what I find most heartbreaking at this point AAA?  It's that she understands at five, and you still do not.


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: nChrist on September 17, 2003, 10:38:04 AM
Oklahoma Howdy to Allinall,

Brother, I give thanks for Godly parents like you. I reflect on 25 years of seeing drug and alcohol addiction in children as young as 8, dead or maimed teens in gang fights, and young people who seemed to be determined to spend most of their lives in prison. There was a common denominator, they didn't have Jesus in their hearts.

It is more than Biblical to share Jesus and the Holy Bible with your children. It is also more than the duty of Christian parents to bring up a child in the ways of THE LORD. It's a matter of care and love.

Thanks for sharing this precious event with us. These are times of joy that give encouragement to all of God's children.

In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: AAAAmember on September 17, 2003, 11:40:21 AM
AAA,  Ok.  I just want to set one thing straight...I am not a she.  I am a he.  I am her father.  Ok.  Now I feel better.

Oops!!  I apologize for the oversight.  I know I get annoyed when people refer to me as "he".  I think it's because your name looks like "Allison"...sorry.  By the way, it's AAAAmember, with 4 A's. ;)

I just have one question...did your daughter really have a choice?  No.  Her only choice was to become Christian.  No five year old wants to dissapoint their parents.  She may understand your teachings, but she had no other choice.

I'm sorry you find it heartbreaking that I do not "understand".  I'm quite at peace with the fact that I do not understand more of the deeper things in life...I'm still learning and growing, and able to admit that I *don't* know everything (*ahem*).  

Now...which is more dangerous?  An 18 year old who admits that she has much to learn, or someone who claims to already know it all?

~AAAA


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Symphony on September 17, 2003, 07:22:32 PM

AAA, hehe, "American Automobile Association".  Sorry.  Couldn't resist.

Yes, that's a start, A4.


Now that we've admitted that we don't know everything(hehe), the next step IS TO ADMIT THAT I AM A SINNER! (Whoa, settle down here symphony).

("Ahem* Did you get that, A4?)

That is, of course, if we ARE a sinner(hehe, just try denying that one in front of all your friends--OR your family, hehe--OR, the IRS-- :-X).


(And, um, while we're at this, we might tell bep that what he wrote there is very beautiful, and appropriate... and Admin's verse...and whitehorse's "...no...large sins to conquer..." 8))...



Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Allinall on September 17, 2003, 11:07:35 PM
AAAA (sorry bout the missed "A"  :) ),

Yes, she did have a choice.  How?  Because I never pushed it on her.  Only prayed for her and even, at times, held her back if I felt she was making it to please me and not to chose God.  That's the point.  You see it as "christianity."  She sees it as Christ.  She chose obedience to Christ - not to please daddy.  How can I so certainly state this aside from my own personal faith in Christ?  Because pleasing daddy, is not something every child strives for!  I'm not saying that they don't try, but I am saying that it isn't their first inclination.  The first inclination is to please self.  If it were otherwise, I wouldn't have to discipline her when she runs out idly into the street to play - oblivious of oncoming traffic.  Regardless, the decision was hers, and I am blessed to have treated the heritage of the LORD'S rightly.  :)

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Now...which is more dangerous?  An 18 year old who admits that she has much to learn, or someone who claims to already know it all?

The person who claims to know all, because that person cannot be taught.  Here's another problem.  You tend, or at least seem to think that an individual who claims the sufficiency of scripture to mean that they feel that they know all.  I in no way feel this to be true.  I feel that I have all that pertains to life in the bible.  I just have a life-time of learning to go through gleaning those truths.  Will I ever have it all?  Nope!  But what a journey in getting there!  What's more, I now have a daughter who can take that journey with me.


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Allinall on September 17, 2003, 11:14:21 PM
Tom,

That encourages me greatly brother!  Thank you for your support, and remember that it is God Who works in us to will and to do His good pleasure.   :)

In Christ,

Kevin


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Allinall on September 18, 2003, 01:45:04 AM
That a better pic Symph?


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Saved_4ever on September 18, 2003, 02:30:18 AM
That a better pic Symph?

Been spending some time in the tanning salon eh?


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Allinall on September 18, 2003, 02:59:10 AM
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Been spending some time in the tanning salon eh?

Hehee...hardly!  The other pic had it about right.  Pale, bald, and glasses!  :)


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Symphony on September 21, 2003, 10:07:23 PM

Yes!!  I like it, AllinAll.  

Thank you..... :)


Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: Symphony on September 27, 2003, 09:09:12 AM
(http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2084/herman4.jpg)



Title: Re:HAAALLLLEEEELLLUUUJJJAAAHHH!!!
Post by: faithful one on September 27, 2003, 06:41:55 PM
As for me and my house;we shall serve the Lord.....Teach a child in the ways of the Lord and the child shall not depart from Thee.