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Title: WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN? Post by: teddybear on August 13, 2003, 08:21:42 AM We are indebted to the disciples for asking Jesus the crucial question What will be the sign of Your coming,and of the end of the age? In His answer our Lord unfolded several significant signs that will characterize life on earth just before His return.We believe some of these signs already have been fulfilled and that the time of the end could well be soon,even within our generation.
It is important to notice the first two warnings Jesus gave His disciples (and us) in Matthew 24;4-26). 1.Take heed that no one deceives you.For many will come in my name,saying,I am Christ,and will deceive many. 2.You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. Let's consider both of these warnings,starting with the first one. 1.The sign of deception. Take heed that no one deceives you.(24;4). For many will come in My name,saying,I am the Christ,and will deceive many.(24;5). Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many (24;11). Then if anyone says to you,Look,here is the Christ! or There!do not believe it (24;23). For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive,if possible,even the elect (24;24). God Bless. Title: WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN? Post by: Ambassador4Christ on August 13, 2003, 02:17:32 PM NO Signs for the Rapture ;D
The signs you posted are for those who are left behind, and are seeing those signs before Christ comes back on earth. "Grace & Peace" Title: Re:WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN? Post by: John the Baptist on August 15, 2003, 03:48:27 PM We are indebted to the disciples for asking Jesus the crucial question What will be the sign of Your coming,and of the end of the age? In His answer our Lord unfolded several significant signs that will characterize life on earth just before His return.We believe some of these signs already have been fulfilled and that the time of the end could well be soon,even within our generation. It is important to notice the first two warnings Jesus gave His disciples (and us) in Matthew 24;4-26). 1.Take heed that no one deceives you.For many will come in my name,saying,I am Christ,and will deceive many. ****** Hi Teddy, (John here) Deception surely is RAMPANT! Are you familair with the word Plagiarise? Stealing another's material that is the Masters Words on a given Bible subject. See Jeremiah 23:30. Then they pass themself's off as Christian with more deception! (that of no law) This has even been exposed here on this forum by another. It looks like the 'end' is in the making for these ones seen in Matt. 7's 'broad' way, huh? Very interesting post, thanks! I like the prophesy from 2 Tim. 3:1-5 & verse 5 in particular for our Master WARNING TO US!---J/t/B/ **** 2.You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. Let's consider both of these warnings,starting with the first one. 1.The sign of deception. Take heed that no one deceives you.(24;4). For many will come in My name,saying,I am the Christ,and will deceive many.(24;5). Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many (24;11). Then if anyone says to you,Look,here is the Christ! or There!do not believe it (24;23). For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive,if possible,even the elect (24;24). God Bless. Title: WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN? Post by: Ambassador4Christ on August 15, 2003, 03:55:18 PM We are indebted to the disciples for asking Jesus the crucial question What will be the sign of Your coming,and of the end of the age? In His answer our Lord unfolded several significant signs that will characterize life on earth just before His return.We believe some of these signs already have been fulfilled and that the time of the end could well be soon,even within our generation. It is important to notice the first two warnings Jesus gave His disciples (and us) in Matthew 24;4-26). 1.Take heed that no one deceives you.For many will come in my name,saying,I am Christ,and will deceive many. ****** Hi Teddy, (John here) Deception surely is RAMPANT! Are you familair with the word Plagiarise? Stealing another's material that is the Masters Words on a given Bible subject. See Jeremiah 23:30. Then they pass themself's off as Christian with more deception! (that of no law) This has even been exposed here on this forum by another. It looks like the 'end' is in the making for these ones seen in Matt. 7's 'broad' way, huh? Very interesting post, thanks! I like the prophesy from 2 Tim. 3:1-5 & verse 5 in particular for our Master WARNING TO US!---J/t/B/ **** 2.You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. Let's consider both of these warnings,starting with the first one. 1.The sign of deception. Take heed that no one deceives you.(24;4). For many will come in My name,saying,I am the Christ,and will deceive many.(24;5). Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many (24;11). Then if anyone says to you,Look,here is the Christ! or There!do not believe it (24;23). For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive,if possible,even the elect (24;24). God Bless. Just for you John Boy ;D Salvation is for eternity. Once your saved you can not lose your salvation. Otherwise it wouldn't be salvation but probation . Rom 5:21 so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Also this: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them" (Rom. 16:17). P.S. John Boy you have been marked ;D Title: Re:WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN? Post by: Hitch on August 16, 2003, 11:25:24 PM Well A4C at least your version reflects classical DF *thinking. But it wreaks havoc on all those millions of pre-millennial Israel watchers.
Either the 'clock of prophecy' stopped and the church age is a parenthetical age,and no intervening events are occuring, waiting for the 'rapture' to remove the church and start the ticking again. Or, its all a bunch of nonsesne and the loudest defenders have by 'seeking a sign' exposed the leaky white underbelly of the DF thinker in the pew. Poor guy doesnt know that the proof for his any moment rapture is directly contrary to the existence of any 'signs'. And the gold is in the 'signs' as Hal and Tim well know. It's kinda like that wobboly spiral in the begining of the Twilight Zone Take care Hitch * Even no less a classical DF than Dr, Walvoord himself abandoned the 'stopped clock'... Title: Re:WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN? Post by: Symphony on August 17, 2003, 10:40:11 AM doo doo doo doo doo doo doo (http://www.scifi.com/twilightzone/img/ins_01.jpg) :-X Title: Re:WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN? Post by: Saved_4ever on August 18, 2003, 01:51:09 AM hey symph you missed a doo. ;)
Title: Re:WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN? Post by: twobombs on August 18, 2003, 02:01:45 AM I'm sooo happy that we always disagree with eachother on this forum :(
Even the signs themselves are debated and 'refuted' To me it sounds like a bunch of religious clergy babbling in the thin air whilst we live the day and age that has been prophecied over and over again. In dutch we say "sukkels" for such occasions.... Title: Re:WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN? Post by: John the Baptist on August 18, 2003, 07:29:46 AM IN THE WORD OF GOD IT IS DESCRIBED AS THE CONFUSSED LANGUAGE OF THE TOWER OF BABYLON BUILDERS, HUH? :'(
See Rev. 17:5's Great Babylon builders! Title: WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN? Post by: Ambassador4Christ on August 18, 2003, 04:59:24 PM IN THE WORD OF GOD IT IS DESCRIBED AS THE CONFUSSED LANGUAGE OF THE TOWER OF BABYLON BUILDERS, HUH? :'( See Rev. 17:5's Great Babylon builders! Your Famous John (http://www.sirinet.net/~blkidps/jtbbrick.gif) |