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Title: Russia, China, Al Qaeda Connection?
Post by: Bronzesnake on August 14, 2005, 02:59:33 AM
http://www.jrnyquist.com/nyquist_2005_0813.htm (http://www.jrnyquist.com/nyquist_2005_0813.htm)


Is Al Qaeda a Kremlin Proxy?

By J.R. Nyquist

Last month a journalist friend in Poland sent me a translation of an interview with FSB [KGB] defector Alexander Litvinenko. The following testimony, offered by Litvinenko, was published by FAKT. Alexander Valterovich Litvinenko (b. Voreonezh, 1962) served in the counterintelligence agencies of the Soviet KGB, and after 1991, as a counter-terrorism expert in the Central Staff of the MB-FSK-FSB (KGB successor organizations). In 1997 Litvinenko served in one of the most secretive departments of the Russian KGB -- the Department for the Analysis of Criminal Organizations. He was a senior operations officer and deputy head of the Seventh Section. Litvinenko defected from Russia and was granted political asylum by the United Kingdom in May 2001.

In a July 2002 article titled Ayman al-Zawahiri's Russian Adventure, I offered the following analysis: "Given Zawahiri's travels to Russia and China, given the full context of Russia's double game in Chechnya (described in last week’s column), we ought to entertain the possibility that China and Russia secretly supported the terrorists who attacked America on 9/11."

Poland's FAKT contacted Litvinenko after the London bombings last month and the following conversation was reported:

FAKT: Alexander, who, in your opinion, is the originator of this [London] terrorist attack?

A. Litvinenko: You know, I have spoken about it earlier and I shall say now, that I know only one organization that has made terrorism the main tool of solving political problems. It is the Russian special services. The KGB was engaged in terrorism for many years, and mass terrorism. At the special department of the KGB they trained terrorists from practically every country in the world. These courses lasted, as a rule, for a half-year.
Specially trained and prepared agents of the KGB organized murders and explosions, including explosions of tankers, the hijacking of passenger airliners, strikes on diplomatic, state and commercial organizations worldwide.

FAKT: Could you name ... some of the terrorists prepared at the "special courses" of the KGB-FSB?

A. Litvinenko: The bloodiest terrorists in the world were or are agents of the KGB-FSB. These are well-known, like Carlos Ilyich Ramiros, nicknamed "the Jackal," the late Yassir Arafat, Saddam Hussein, Adjalan (he is condemned in Turkey), Wadi Haddad, the head of the service of external operations of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Hauyi, the head of the communist party of Lebanon, Mr. Papaionnu from the Cyprus, Sean Garland from Ireland and many others. All of them were trained by the KGB, received money from there, weapons and explosives, counterfeit documents and a communication equipment for carrying out of acts of terrorism worldwide.

FAKT: Some may object that each of the listed figures, and the forces supporting them, were engaged in solving their own political problems.

A. Litvinenko: Certainly, all these figures and movements operated under their own slogans; however, none of them especially hid their "intimate" ... relationship with the Kremlin and Lubyanka. There is a simple question: whether the Russian special services would train and finance people and groups that were not supervised by Lubyanka and did not serve to the interests of the Kremlin? You understand perfectly, they would not. Each act of terrorism made by these people was carried out as an assignment and under the rigid control of the KGB of the USSR. And [the terrorism] ... is not casual after the disintegration of the USSR and [reform of the KGB]....

FAKT: Every terrorist you have named is from 'the old staff' of the KGB. Could you name someone from recent history?

A. Litvinenko: Certainly, here it is. The number two person in the terrorist organization al Qaeda, who they are crediting with the series of explosions in London, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is an old agent of the FSB. Being sentenced to death in Egypt for terrorism and hunted by Interpol, Ayman al-Zawahiri, in 1998, was in the territory of Dagestan, where for half a year he received special training at one of the educational bases of the FSB. After this training he was transferred to Afghanistan, where he had never been before and where, following the
recommendation of his Lubyanka chiefs, he at once ... penetrated the milieu of bin Laden and soon became his assistant in al Qaeda.

FAKT: Could you hint at least, where from do you have such data?

A. Litvinenko: I can. During my service in one of the most secret departments of the FSB, top officials from the UFSB of Dagestan, who had directly worked with Ayman al-Zawahiri ... were called to Moscow and received high posts.

FAKT: What can you say concerning the acts of terrorism in London ? From what region and with what forces was this strike directed?

A. Litvinenko: In reply to this question I can definitely say that the center of global terrorism is not in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan or the Chechen Republic. The terrorist infection is spread worldwide from Lubyanka Square and the Kremlin cabinet. And until the Russian
special services are outlawed, dispersed and condemned, the terrorism will never stop: bombs will blow up and blood will be shed. Terrorism has no expiration date.... I would like to repeat, that all the terrorists, whom I have named, were supported by the heads of the Soviet and Russian special services - Yuri Andropov, Vladimir Putin, Nikolay Patrushev and others. These people are the main terrorists.... And until we condemn them ... global terrorism will continue.


Such was the FAKT interview with former FSB-KGB officer Alexander Litvinenko. Related to this, in 1998 I asked a former Russian intelligence official how Moscow might successfully pull off a surprise nuclear attack against the United States without suffering a devastating retaliation. He replied without hesitation, saying: "If you ever hear that Arab terrorists have attacked an American city with nuclear weapons don't believe it." The attack, he said, would be from Russia.

Even now I don't fully understand how a proxy WMD terrorist attack on the United States would be exploited. Exactly what is Moscow trying to achieve? What is the strategic follow-up? I was told that a mass missile strike on America would follow. I am reminded of San Renxing's recent commentary on a secret Communist Party speech about China's plans to kill 100 to 200 million Americans: "Unable to believe in the existence of such wickedness ... people would rather think the [war]  'speech' cannot be true or it's not to be believed."

I will end this commentary with a quote from the text of Viktor Suvorov's Spetsnaz.

[Widespread terrorist and sabotage operations in advance of World War III] are known officially in the GRU as the "preparatory period," and unofficially as the "overture." The overture is a series of large and small operations the purpose of which is, before actual military operations begin, to weaken the enemy's morale, create an atmosphere of suspicion, fear and uncertainty, and divert the attention of the enemy's armies and police forces to a huge number of different targets, each of which may be the object of the next attack.
   

The overture is carried out by agents of the secret services of the Soviet satellite countries and by mercenaries recruited by intermediaries. The principal method employed at this stage is "gray terror," that is, a kind of terror which is not conducted in the name of the Soviet Union. The Soviet secret services do not at this stage leave their visiting cards, or leave other people's cards. The terror is carried out in the name of already existing extremist groups not connected in any way with the Soviet Union, or in the name of fictitious organizations.


Title: Re:Russia, China, Al Qaeda Connection?
Post by: Bronzesnake on August 14, 2005, 03:03:37 AM
RUMORS OF WAR

by J. R. Nyquist

Al Qaeda is supposedly organizing a big attack against the United States. On August 4 Osama bin Laden’s chief lieutenant, Ayman al Zawahiri, appeared on al Jazeera television. He warned the United States, “What you have seen in New York, Washington and Afghanistan, are only the initial losses and if you continue the same hostile policies the result will make you forget these horrors.” Zawahiri is promising to hit us again, and harder than ever. On February 23, 1998 bin Laden’s declaration of war on America stated: “The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies … is an individual duty for every Muslim … in order to liberate the Al Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated an unable to threaten any Muslim.” This is an Arab war of “national liberation” described by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev in the following words: “We understand the aspirations of the peoples of Arab countries who are fighting for complete liberation from foreign dependence. At the same time the actions of Israel, which from the very first days of its existence began to threaten its neighbors and to pursue an unfriendly policy toward them, should be condemned.”
In 1956 Khrushchev’s opposition to Israel was based on a crude insight. “The population of Israel amounted to 1.5 million,” he explained, “whereas the population of the Arab states was over 70 million.” Arab victory was therefore inevitable. In communist thinking, inevitability is morality. And so the Russians supported Arab terrorism for many years. They trained and supported Arafat and the Palestinian Liberation Organization. They equipped Egypt, Syria, Libya and Iraq with weapons. And when President Sadat broke with Moscow, the assassination of Sadat was yet another inevitability.

There are those who yearn to see the liquidation of Israel and the collapse of the United States. It is not only bin Laden’s goal, but an old communist goal as well. Khrushchev said that he would bury us. He said, “Your grandchildren will live under communism.” Of course, he was speaking to our grandparents. He was talking long-term objectives, long-term strategy. And when a former Russian intelligence officer (Alexander Litvinenko) says that Ayman al Zawahiri is a Russian FSB agent, we shouldn’t be too surprised.

Of course, the lunatic fringe has long held that bin Laden is an American agent and 9-11 a CIA or Mossad operation. There is a curious preemptive symmetry to certain claims, perhaps on the order of a confession; and these may deserve further analysis. With a wink to the lunatic fringe, Russia’s Sorcha Faal routinely feeds anti-American hokum to gullible conspiracy buffs on the Internet. Faal is worth noting because Russian crackpots are special – as seen in the example of Tatyana Koryagina and 9-11. The Russian special services know what’s going on, and they cannot resist using their knowledge. Russia’s president was a career KGB officer. Going back more than 100 years, the Russian secret police concocted some of the greatest conspiracy hoaxes of all time (including the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and items related to the Kennedy assassination). With Sorcha Faal we stumble upon a rich tapestry of similar offerings. According to Faal, Russia is preparing for war against the United States. Russia’s allies include China, Iran and the usual suspects. Furthermore, Faal suggests that America will be driven to “aggression” by a “triggering event” (presumably terrorist). Already, she says, elements in the U.S. military are seeking to avoid war through an uprising against President Bush. (Please note: rumors of an alleged U.S. military uprising are part and parcel of Moscow’s pre-war gray terror scenario as described by a GRU defector Viktor Suvorov in a book titled Spetsnaz.) Faal suggests that World War III will begin with U.S. strikes into Iran, unless the American military overthrows Bush. She also says that plans have been laid for martial law in the United States (similar to the claims of other conspiracy theorists).

We should not take the ramblings of conspiracy theorists seriously, but there may be a method behind their madness. (It is something to keep in mind.) Nonsense is always nonsense, but sometimes it serves a purpose. Modern men are as credulous as medieval men. Rubbish may be elevated to holy write by a solitary yet successful prediction. And credibility has its uses.

Consider two related items – alleged speeches from the bowels of the Chinese Communist Party (as described by San Renxing at Epoch Times). Admittedly, Epoch Times isn’t the most sophisticated publication, but there is something deeper than sophistication at work in its pages. In a speech titled “The war is not far from us and is the midwife of the Chinese century,” the strategic situation is described in terms of “two scenarios.” The first scenario is optimistic and the second is pessimistic. “If our biological weapons succeed in the surprise attack, the Chinese people will be able to keep their loss at a minimum in the fight against the U.S. If, however, the attack fails and triggers a nuclear retaliation from the U.S., China would perhaps suffer a catastrophe in which more than half of its population would perish. That is why we need to be ready with air defense systems for our big and medium-sized cities.” In this alleged speech, war with America is described as inevitable. “It is indeed brutal to kill one or two hundred million Americans. But that is the only path that will secure a Chinese century, a century in which the CCP leads the world. We, as revolutionary humanitarians, do not want deaths. But if history confronts us with a choice between deaths of Chinese and those of Americans, we’d have to pick the latter….”

Epoch Times also refers to another speech, titled “The war is approaching us,” allegedly delivered in 2003 by China’s defense minister. “Cooperation is temporary,” said Chi Haotian, “while competition and conflicts are absolute. They are the true subject of history.” (This statement is fully consistent with Lenin and Mao.) Gen. Chi noted that, “China needs to import oil for its economic development.” China will need 100 million tons of oil in 2010 and 200 million tons in 2020. Will the United States tolerate this? “The source of the majority of wars … has been the struggle for basic living resources,” Chi supposedly said.

I am skeptical of the speech’s authenticity, though there is truth in it. Whoever wrote the speech was making an elementary calculation. And further: “
  • nly with the power that is capable of totally extinguishing Japan and crippling the United States can we win the peace; otherwise the Taiwan problem cannot be prolonged for more than 10 years, and there will be war within 10 years!”

If Gen. Chi Haotian didn’t write these words he would nonetheless be inclined to second them. After all, the man is a communist; and the founder of Chinese communism (Mao Zedong) once wrote: “Every communist must grasp the truth, ‘Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.’” Mao also wrote: “The seizure of power by armed force, the settlement of the issue by war, is the central task and the highest form of revolution. This Marxist-Leninist principle of revolution holds good universally, for China and for all other countries.” In preaching the inevitability of war with the capitalist West, Mao noted that “war can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun.”

Rumors of war abound. The contenders for global hegemony are Russia, China and the United States. Can anyone imagine World War III without these countries? The reason for this is simple. More than 90 percent of the world’s military power is located in these three countries.
 
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Title: Re:Russia, China, Al Qaeda Connection?
Post by: Shammu on August 14, 2005, 03:23:48 AM
All of what you have there BRNZ, wouldn't suprise me. We know Russia will be a superpower again. They will attack Israel, the Bible says so. Terror is only a tool of war. The only people it don't work on are thoses prepared to die. As a Christian, I am not afraid to die.

Romans 14:8 If we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or we die, we belong to the Lord.

This thread fits in nicely with what I posted last night. Here is a big.....................................

ATTA BOY!
;D

Your brother and friend in CHrist.
Bob

Revelation 6:4 And another horse came out, flaming red. And its rider was empowered to take the peace from the earth, so that men slaughtered one another; and he was given a huge sword.


Title: Re:Russia, China, Al Qaeda Connection?
Post by: Bronzesnake on August 14, 2005, 04:02:35 AM
I ain't afraid either!

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