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Alot of people don't believe in God because they say there is no proof, that the Bible is just a book. Just like alot of people don't believe in evolution because they say it's just a theory.

Well, there is proof that God is real. When most people who become saved they feel way different because they have the Holy Ghost enter into them. Also some people can see the change in them. But there is even more proof, the power of prayer. Alot of miracles from God come from prayer. When I get really bad stomach aches I pray and the second I'm done praying the ache imediatetly stops. There is no "luck" that that would just happen. There are millions of more miracles that aren't just "luck." There is alot of proof that God is real.

But, where is the proof that evolution is real? There isn't any. It was just one guys theory.

First, I would like to point out that I am playing devil's advocate her, I do believe in Christ, I am just giving a point of view.

With that said, I must say I truly do believe in evolution, and creationism at the same time. Evolution has plenty of evidence, from fossils of creatures thousands of years old, to the tail bone on humans. For instance, if humnas were simply created at the exact same time as dinosaurs, there would be human fossils right next to the dinosaur ones. How can certain species not have fossil records until 100 years ago, while others have records from thousands to millions of years without some form of evolution.

I think, that time flows much differently for God than it does for us. For example, he created the world in 6 days, but several million years passed here on Earth. It is difficult to comprehend, but God is beyond our comprehension, and we must leave some things to faith!

Evolution has been divided into two camps, Micro, and Macro-Evolution.

Macro Evolution, does not prove anything that can be credited towards God the creator, if anything it, denys the Biblical teaching for the creation by a Creator.

The reason for this is because those who believe in evolution (macro evolution) depend on death being a part of the creation from the begining (with millions of years between the creation of dinosaures and man), while the Bible clearly teaches, death entered in as the result of Adams sin. (Rom 5:12)

As for living proof, that there is a God, not only is  evident thru the observance of His childrens testimony and lives, but the nation of Israel, and its history.

He has made them the gazing stock of the world.

Petro

As for more ways that prove God exists, look at the Bible. How many of its predictions have come true already? quite a few I believe!

Only if you insist in a childishly simple reading of the passages concerned.

I read that as "grazing stock", which brought to mind entirely the wrong picture.  :)

No one else is going to saying anything else about it?

Hmmm.... seems to me (from reading the previous replies) that proof, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. One would think that if there were TRUE proof, one way or the other, then there would be no choice but to believe the proof. A basketball is round because you can feel it, see it, etc. (course, someone may deny that as well, right? :) )

Proof, as in the case of the stomach pain going away, is proof to he who experiences both the pain and the absence of said pain after prayer.

In the end, does it matter? I, like so many others, don't require so much proof to believe, in faith, that God exists. My mother is blind, has been blind for 20 years, the result of her desire not to visit doctors because she had faith that God would heal her. I have prosthetic middle-ear bones in both ears and only one ear drum, again the result of my parents believing only in faith healing and failing to get me to doctors in time to fix what would have been minor ear infections.

It took me many years to get over the anger and disgust because God did not heal me or my mother. Does that mean that God doesn't exist? I thought so...

Then I realized that believing in God simply because he performs miracles, or because he CAN perform miracles, is not what I should do. I now choose to believe in God despite the lack of miracles, the lack of (or sometimes in spite of) proof, etc.

I choose to believe in God as a personal choice simply because he is God. Once I believe in God then I begin to believe that he is responsible for humanity, creation, etc.

God Bless,

-Samson

I have proof everyday that God is with me. Every new day that I arise, he's with me. I feel his quicken power with in me. I speak to Him and He sometimes speaks to me. I know He's with me. I know that He is in me. There is no doubt in my mind that God/Jesus is in me. I can feel Him. When I recieved the Holy Ghost speaking in other tongues that was my evidence that God was in me, when He spoke through me.

As was said before, Proof is in the eye of the beholder.
   I believe that the most proof we have of our Wonderful God is the Book that He left us to study.
  If a person stops to think about the age of the Bible, how many generations have passed since it was begun, how many different people have written it, and the prophesies that it has given that have come true , well, I consider that a miracle in itself! How many times people have tried to eradicate it.  Yet it is HERE!!!!
    God is in your heart, His spirit testifies to your spirit... the feeling of peace and joy that come when He makes Himself known to you in the quiet of your prayer time.... in the songs and hymns of your heart!
    Blessed is He that believes and has not seen!!!!

Joy

Oklahoma Howdy to Smartinez1984,

You are right, the absolute PROOF of God's existence is in the heart of each believer. I enjoyed your post, and I'm glad that you realize that God isn't responsible for your physical problems. I have physical problems also, and they brought me closer to MY LORD AND SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST.

In Christ,
Tom

There is more proof that Christ existed and is telling the truth than any other historical figure. But if people believed it then they would have to admit they fall short of the glory of God. There's the rub.

Care to elaborate on some of the more specific ones. Remember, they need to have truth today, not centuries ago. In other words, if the Bible said we have a second moon which will explode, and a later verse says "see, the second moon just exploded, now we only have one". That would not be proof of a true prediction, because the only proof is itself.

I don't know what books you consider proof of anything. You must not believe any history books if you don't believe the bible. If you do believe history books then you have chosen to believe imperfect fallible minds in which case, why wouldn't you believe the bible?

Because history books don't speak of talking asses, people surviving being eaten and consumed by fire. No unicorns or dragons, unless stated as myth.

You must not have had any miracles in your life or you would know that many, many things that at one time seemed impossible have happened. Life was different thousands of years ago. The atmosphere was differet. There was less polution  and disease and people lived longer. There were HUGE dinosaurs for which, if archeologists hadn't found bones, people would find that unbelievable. Life itself is a miracle, in fact, such a miracle that scientists spend their lives trying to understand, not only how it works, but how it was created. They still change their minds every decade. Since I have opened my eyes and seen far beyond my narrow experiences in life, i find that anything's possible.  Many people believe in aliens and there has been less evidence that aliens exist than God exists.

Spoken like a true believer! I see now exactly what I'm dealing with. Logic fails here. I don't intend to be mean, Heidi, but you may as well have said that you'll believe anything.

Firstly, people are living much longer than anytime in history (excluding mythology), thanks to science.
Yes the atmosphere was different thousands of years ago, because of pollution nowadays. Billions of years ago it was different because bacteria hadn't yet freed up the oxygen we
now enjoy.

Many people believe in aliens because they want to believe in aliens. They have faith in aliens, but no proof.

As far a life being a miracle, I think your definition needs work. A miracle is something that can't normally happen.

Eyeball

Well Krazeekkc, you have finally solved one of mankinds most difficult questions, better get that published right away and let the theologians and philosophers know that they can now rest easy.  Unfortunately, the proof you speak of has a prerequisite of belief.  How are you going to prove his existence to non-believers?  Desire is something that should never lead to belief.  Besides, I would have to argue that this proof that you offer is just a psychological effect of your strong belief (seeing what you want to see basically).  These feelings of peace and joy and such would come from belief in a doctrine that urges you to give all of your problems to a perfect being that will take care of everything for you.
Also, the bible was written by imperfect, fallible minds between 40 and 72 years after jesus died.

On this basis, why would you believe the bible and not, say, the Illiad?

Because there have been too many lives changed by the bible. Too many witnesses as to its veracity. Too many prophecies that have come true incuding the current state of the world.  In fact, NOTHING has been disproven in the bible. It's still the number one best seller in the world even after thousands of years. The three major religions of the world are based on the bible. Many laws are based on the bible and thousands of years ago, the bible was the law in the Middle East. It has been studied and dissected by more people than any other book ever written and still nothing in it has proven to be false.  I bleieve it has withstood the test of time. If it hasn't been proven to be false by now, it never will. The Iliad is read as prose but I believe that it's based on truth. But the Iliad is just a story and doesn't impact a person's salvation like the bible does so it's not as relevant to most people as the bible is.