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Russia Working on Secret Weapons — Defense Minister

Created: 04.05.2005 12:38 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 12:38 MSK

MosNews

Russia is working to create weapons that no other country possesses, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said in an interview with the Rossiyskaya Gazeta daily.

“Many countries are working on…modern weapons systems, including us. Naturally, not a single partner or ally of ours knows anything about it and nor will they until they are tested,” he told the paper.

Ivanov said that modern Russia does not need the kind of army that the Soviet Union used to have. “We do not want and we will not be a scarecrow for the whole world,” he stressed.

In recent years Russia’s army has been reduced from more than three million servicemen to 1.2 million, and the military forces should be developed not by increasing the number of soldiers but by high-tech weapons, the minister said.

Russia yields to no one with regards to nuclear weapons, Ivanov believes. He explained that Moscow is not an aggressor as it was portrayed during the Cold War. However, although the possibility of a nuclear war is minimal, to ensure Russia’s security the development of nuclear weapons will not be halted, he stated.

He said that power is respected by everyone, and Russia has to be a powerful military state relative to its size. “Some say 200,000 (servicemen) would be enough, like in European countries. But let’s look at a map and compare their territory and their neighbors with ours. This is a geopolitical answer,” the minister said.

In Ivanov’s opinion, the armed forces should be modified depending on the kind of threats the world faces. After the end of the Cold War “the abruptness factor has increased many times in size”, and no one knows where the next local religious or ethnic conflict will arise, he said.
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/05/04/secretweapon.shtml

Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
Bob

Was it ever really over or did it just slow down and slide behind the curtains.

It just hid, behind the curtians.

Russia definately plays a prominent role in prophecy. I never did believe that Russia was finished.
asaph

Well you are right, asaph.



   Mikhail Kasyanov, photo from compromat.ru website

Mikhail Kasyanov, photo from compromat.ru website
Putin Restoring Soviet System Says Former Russian PM

Created: 19.05.2005 16:58 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 16:58 MSK, 17 hours 44 minutes ago

MosNews

President Putin is restoring the Soviet system with elements of capitalism, former Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov, who may run in the presidential elections of 2008, said at a press conference Thursday, Interfax reports.

Kasyanov’s reaction was prompted by the recent changes to the electoral system. The former PM said the new law is against the Russian Constitution, as it makes politics a monopoly of the current authorities and allows no alternative parties to enter the fray.

Moreover, the new law is against democracy and provides an opportunity for falsifying election results, Kasyanov said.

“It looks like the authorities are securing the possibility for falsification in future,” he was quoted by Intefax as saying.

Kasyanov did not make any official statements regarding his possible participation in the future presidential elections, but said “everything is possible”, Interfax added.

“If people have a need and desire that I run in the presidential elections, I will do so. If not, I will find other things to do,” he said.

Speaking about Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s trial, Kasyanov called it “a farce” and said such actions were inadmissible.

“My opinion is this: it is a demonstration that anyone can be treated in the same way,” Kasyanov said.

Khodorkovsky’s case has brought Russia to a critical point, and after the verdict is announced, the consequences may be negative and enduring, he added.

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/05/19/kasyanovbriefing.shtml
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Ezekiel 38:18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.

Looks as if Gog, is alive and well.
Bob

Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Russia Working on Secret Weapons? NO WAY! That is SO not like Russia to work on Secret weapons! Who would have thunk it? Not Hollywood or any of the Evangelical Left behind Doomsayers, thats for sure! Russia working on Secret weapons! You think you know a country, then they go off and surprise you with some off-the-wall idea that on one has ever taked of before! What next? The American Colonies rebelling against England? Germans trying to take over the world?  Wow, DW, it is a good thing you brought this to my attention, otherwise I would have never even thougth Russia would do such a thing!  :P ;D :P ;D :P ;D

You guys are great, you know that? Your infallible interpretation of Prophecy just amazes me. ::)


(http://www.mosnews.com/files/8472/kasyanov.jpg)

Yeah, thats about how I feel, too, after reading posts like this. ;D :P

I don't think Russia likes us (U.S.) anymore.  :'(

Russia threatens force if U.S. militarizes space
Posted: May 20, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON – A senior Russian embassy official is threatening to use force if necessary to prevent the U.S. from deploying combat weapons in space.
(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:yoFIJXCYZeIJ:www.aoqz76.dsl.pipex.com/Web)
The whole story...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44363 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44363)

Remimber when you guys where all my age and this stuff was happening for the FIRST time? ;D

I was still in grade school when it first started and was in service through it also. A very touchy situation world wide. One wrong move by any country would have meant ..... booooomm.

Wow, Roger, you ARE old! :P ;) You know, we are studying that stuff in History books now in college... ;D A lot of the PhDs in history arn't even old enough to remimder it! :P ;D

 [qoute]Wow, Roger, you ARE old![/qoute]  

Only the body. :D :D


The "official" time frame for the Cold War is 1945-1991. I was born in 1951. The Cold War really escalated though in the early 1960s when I was in grade school.

You don't have any PhDs over 35?

Nah, they are old, I'm just picking at you. ;D

I remember, it was called, M.A.D., Mutual Assured Destruction. Pastor Roger, you are 6 years older then I am. Do you remember, "tuck, and duck"?

Resting with the Lord.
Bob

1 Kings 1:2 Wherefore his servants said unto him, Let there be sought for my lord the king a young virgin: and let her stand before the king, and let her cherish him, and let her lie in thy bosom, that my lord the king may get heat.

I remember, it was called, M.A.D., Mutual Assured Destruction. Pastor Roger, you are 6 years older then I am. Do you remember, "tuck, and duck"?


They didn't call it that in my school but I do remember what it is. Hiding under your desk. (Like that would do any good) Maybe it was because the desks in my school had no room to hide under. They were the old cast iron type with a swivel chair attached in such a fashio you couldn't get under them.

I also remember the air raid drills where we all had to go into the service area under the new gym and sit on the cold damp cement floor down there.

 

I actually learned that in the movies first ;D Good ol' Tom Clancy! If only he could think up a new formula for his novals, eh?

In my area it was "duck and cover".  In the early 60’s I was a grade-schooler living on a ranch 20 miles west of Amarillo.  Amarillo has 90% of the world’s supply of helium which made (makes?) it a ‘first strike’ target.  I was a go-lucky kid but I remember the tense times – often the news guys on TV looked like they were going to cry… many, many folks were sure that the end was at hand.

We laugh at the naivety of “duck and cover” in the face of the pure force of a nuclear attack, but recent thought reveals that it would have actually saved lives.  For instance, did any of you ever see the “duck and cover” film with the kids lying flat in the gutter when they heard the disaster siren?  That would actually be a reasonable life-saving action if the explosion is curb-side and several miles away...

Maybe it’s time to take a fresh look at the things we used to do in the 60’s.  Here in sunny CA, just as when I lived in Alaska, earthquake preparedness is a simple fact of everyday life.  Maybe it’s time to start digging “root cellars” again…

But of course when this all comes about – the Christians who survive the nukes will still have the guillotine to contend with…  ;D

Now, THERE’S a cheery thought!  :D

Yes, I do remember that film.