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The biggest predator that ever lived, the Liopleurodon...


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lol, take that T-Rex ;D This is a water dino that was discovered not too long ago...In the pic it is attacking a T-Rex... He He, try pull that out with a hook.

Source http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ajs/tvwalkin.html (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ajs/tvwalkin.html)

Wow. Before I read your post I looked at the picture and thought that the creature was a boulder.

lol i change the heading to just Leviathan...i mean im not really sure, but he fits the bill ;D

Hmm made a mistake...thats not a T-Rex but rather a Eustreptospondylus. About half the size of a T-Rex.

At almost 25 m long Liopleurodon was the biggest carnivore that ever existed. It had four large paddle-shaped limbs, which made it a powerful swimmer. With an enormous 3 metre long mouth which contained teeth twice as long as those of Tyrannosaurus.

Interesting. But I can't tell if it has a neck or tail like the one discribed in the bible...

Hmmm - the picture must have been inspired by that footage of the killer whales going up on the beach after sea lions.  Has anyone seen that video?  Awesome stuff.  God put all the animal kingdom under man's dominion - but how are we supposed to "dominionize" something like a Leviathan (or killer whale)????  ???
 
Hey buddy - a little Leviathan milk in your coffee?  ;D

Hello my friend. I think you're describing the Behemoth.

Job 40:15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

Job 40:16 Lo now, his strength [is] in his loins, and his force [is] in the navel of his belly.

Job 40:17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

Job 40:18 His bones [are as] strong pieces of brass; his bones [are] like bars of iron.

Job 40:19 He [is] the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach [unto him].

Job 40:20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.

Job 40:21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.

Job 40:22 The shady trees cover him [with] their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.

Job 40:23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, [and] hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.

Job 40:24 He taketh it with his eyes: [his] nose pierceth through snares.

Bronzesnake

A slightly better image of what they think it looked like but you know how these images are, mostly imagination as they have very little to go on usually from the small amount of fossils.



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Job 41 is where it speaks of the Leviathan and it doesn't seem to give a very good visual description of it to me.

A picnic on the beach...

Hmmphff - for those of you wondering - I had here (shortly) a picture of an orca grabbing a sealion off the beach.  Something must have happened to the URL IMG.

Now Behemoth ;D This site is pretty funny ;)


http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/behemoth.html (http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/behemoth.html)

Now for the new christian or older ones, dont go around saying this IS Leviathan or Behemoth, we have no proof of this...but its interresting :)

God Bless

Why not? I think it's either the Brontosaurus or the Brachiosaurus judging by the Biblical description. Hey, if the evolutionists can base all their "theories" on pure guessing, then why not take an educated guess useing eyewitness description.

Bronzesnake

Yes brother, saying this IS and taking a educated guess are two very different things...i prefer to guess. :)

God bless you brother

Wow, that must be what whales looked like before they evolved into their modern form :P ;D

I don't think slamming evolution like that is right! >:(
It's clear that creature evolved into a horse, then a circus clown with huge shiny red clown shoes!! :D

Bronzesnake

I thought it looked more like a sea turtle without its shell. I thought the circus clowns evolved from evolutionists.  :D :D ;D ;D :-X :-X

 :D ;D :D ;D :D ;DLOL!

Bronzesnake

Amen brothers & sisters, we have the truth... but the evolutionists dont... so let us glory in the truth :) Kinda like the evolutionists, who said ...every time we climb the mountain, and just when we think we have reached the top, we find three Bible Theologians up there stairing us in the face.... ;D

God bless, and all the glory to the Lord...Amen ;D

Leviathan is a gliding, coiling serpent of the sea.  
Isaiah 27:1

One of the four evil and chief princes (Lucifer, Satan, Leviathan and Belial) of earth:
LEVIATHAN: From Hebrew, LVIThN (usually written Leviathan instead of Leviatan), - the Crooked or Piercing Serpent or Dragon.

Job 3:8,  Job 41:1 and Psalms 104

Revelation 13:1

And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.

Revelation 12:7

And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.



The 4 Chief Spirits of Earth:

Lucifer: From Latin, Lux, Light, and Fero, to bear, - A Light Bearer. There is a name “Lucifuge” also employed occasionally, from Lux, Light, and Fugio, to fly from, - He whoshuns the Light.

LEVIATAN: From Hebrew, LVIThN (usually written Leviathan instead of Leviatan), - the Crooked or Piercing Serpent or Dragon.

Satan: From Hebrew, ShTN, =  The Chief Adversary.

Belial: From Hebrew, BLIOL, = a Wicked One.

Poltergeists are manifestations of these and their servant spirits those belonging to Satan whom fell from heaven with his angels.

These fallen angels being namely:

Asmodee: from the Hebrew word “Asamod,” to destroy or exterminate.
Belzebud: from Hebrew, BOL, = Lord, and ZBVB,= Fly or Flies; Lord of Flies.
Oriens: Evil Eastern spirit of the four quarters of the World.
Paimon: from Hebrew, POMN, = a tinkling sound or small bell.
Ariton: from the Hebrew root ORH, = to lay bare, to make naked.
Amaimon: spirit of terrible violence and vehemence.

Of these there were also and additional 316 spirits total that fell from heaven and of these 316 there are virtually thousands of servant spirits that fell as well. And we wonder why the earth is in its current condition.  

It seems that by the names given these spirits by GOD they were created with his omnipotence in mind and named before their fall. Simply put divine evil sprits with power over physical things on earth. However, not near GOD’s omnipotent power. The bad part is these were cast to the earth but never fear because they fear GOD in all things as we do and in turn, they fear us as well if we have his spirit in us. Hence the difference you see in a good person and an evil person. We are all created with good and evil tendencies, which are up to us to learn to control in this life, which is a power, granted us only thru prayer and fasting.

If you study, and pray for understanding GOD will enlighten you but better yet never go exploring spiritual things on your own without his help and guidance. If someone tells you, they will obey you and give you things well just do not go there, as it will cost you your soul. I give you the same warning given to me thru  prayer. You just might loose your soul in the process if you mess with such spiritual things.    

The 4 Chief Archangels over heaven and Earth:

Gabriel: Angel of beginnings and of other natural occurrences.
Michael: Mighty protector of heaven and earth.
Raphael: Healing angel and overseer of the virtues of lesser angels.
Uriel: Angel of Arts and Repentance.

Lower Earthly Orders:
Virtues: Miracle workers.
Powers: Angels of the Universe.
Principalities: Protectors and regulators.

Angels: Your guardian angel and angels in the physical form.

I want to indicate here that the Archangels or the lesser Angels will not serve you directly without GOD’s direct intervention. Man and Woman are simply so much lower on the scale of spiritual things than Angels whom are of a superior intelligence and form. You cannot imagine the intelligence of just one of these beings although one of them knows not all things. If you ever encounter an angelic being, it will state its name and what is there to do for you. They only will appear directly in front of you and will warn you accordingly. I call them it (Angel) here because these do not look exactly as we do in human form at least the one I saw did not although I gather from others some Angels do.    

According to my current knowledge, these Angels have been with GOD from the creation of the world and visit us on earth regularly. As I said, I believe I encountered a divine Angel in my life once. The appearance of which was overwhelming and appropriate for me at the time (fasting and praying for answers). Of the orders of Powers and Principalities, these are good as well as evil fallen angels and some mixed. GOD does no evil himself since he allows the fallen ones this task over man. The nice part here is man was created above the fallen evil angels so they would have a natural fear of him and his spirit. The evil Chief spirits however are more defiant of mankind.  If you are ever tempted by, an evil spirit you would immediately know or feel it but this occurrence is rare, as evil fallen spirits do not like us however; they do and can plant evil thoughts in our minds (temptations) which are usually to harm someone or something thus going against GOD will for us. Some of the magical arts rely on evil spirits like Bel (Belial) to work but as I have previously stated you would know if someone ever used evil against you.              
   
I am sorry for this lengthy explanation but when I saw it, I got an irresistible feeling to reply with this information. If you want to know more on this, you can email me, as this is a life’s work of study and seeking the truth.Be careful it is a literal spiritual jungle out there these days.      

Beleve me there is a GOD, Angels and Devils!

Elias2K quote.

   


First off, Welcome to C.U.


Very interesting post my friend. How do you get these numbers? Also, you are aware that satan and one third of the angels of Heaven have not as of yet fallen at all... right?

Bronzesnake

Where has Satan’s domain been since Job according to scripture?

JOB 1:7

One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.  The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."


Revelation 12:1-12

A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.  She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.  Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.  She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.  The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.  But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:

  "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God,
    and the authority of his Christ.
    For the accuser of our brothers,
    who accuses them before our God day and night,
    has been hurled down.

  Therefore rejoice, you heavens
   and you who dwell in them!
  But woe to the earth and the sea,
    because the devil has gone down to you!
  He is filled with fury,
    because he knows that his time is short."

Revelation 20:1-3

And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.  He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

Satan is our accuser before the Lord GOD Almighty and as our adversary, he and his spirits roam through the earth even going back and forth in it. As far as the numbers of Legions and Demons, only GOD knows the exact number but what I have comes from what has been shown to me thru many years of study and prayer. If you go into fasting and prayer seeking GOD’s will for you he might guide you in this.

Fell here means to fall from GOD's grace never to repent a sin and be forgiven for it. Can Satan and his Demons repent their sins right now and be forgiven setting all heaven and earth free of evil? Ever read “Mutiny on the Bounty” but instead of neglect think of gaining power in order to overthrow GOD and his holy Angels. This was Lucifer’s sin against GOD. To serve or worship one of the Chief spirits listed is the same as serving Lucifer and Satan.

GOD himself did not advocate evil it was an occurrence from the free will of other divine spirits (Lucifer) and thus a fall from his divine plan for them. GOD today does not kill but waits patently for his divine plan to come full circle which is the eventual evolution of our planet, which by design returns us right back to him.

The people who die in the wake of natural events are part of the evolution of life on this planet and thus not directly GOD killing men, women and children. Just like, it was not GOD who talked Lucifer into his spiritual Mutiny on the Bounty, it was not GOD that told Ted Bundy to kill. These are all examples of mans free will killing people. However, there is a time of wrath that will be provoked by the operation of repeated disobedience, which will be carried out by his appointed angels and divine spirits (Leviathan for one) but here there is also GOD's mercy if you pray for it. This current generation of man can provoke it if he is not repentant of his free will sins of destroying the whole earth.
(Ezekiel 1, Revelation 6, Psalms 99:1, Habbakuk 3:1-12, Revelation 11:18, Jeremiah 51:25)

Here is an answer concerning GOD and the killing of innocent people as well.

 I guess we have some differences of opinion as to what the scriptures are saying and in what order they occur. Also, I try not to add anything to the scriptures, such as precise numbers which are not in the Bible.

It's true, satan can and does roam the earth, but the description in Revelation describes satan being tossed to and bound on earth, not able to leave.

Leviathan is described as a beast of nature (a dinosaur) in the Bible,  and not an evil spirit.

It's been interesting my friend.


Bronzesnake

Bronze said
bound on earth, not able to leave

Amen brother: you have a good eye for the truth... keep up the good work 8)

Why thankee!

Bronzesnake