Title: Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 14, 2005, 02:45:32 PM Greek word CHRiSTiaN or Aramaic KoReTSYaNea?
Note the word TSunami and NaTion and the fact that the GREEKS made the C sound like an S or K. TS is pronounced like an "S". Sometimes "T" is given an "S" sound. All this came in when the Greeks invaded Persian territory. BTW. Controlling Western hegemony has preferred to persuade otherwise, however, some of the oldest scrolls of the NT are in Aramaic. They are known as the Pegotcha2ta scrolls. There is also much evidence that the gospels were written first not in Greek, but in Aramaic! The text regarding the translation of the Aramaic word "gamla" as to whether it is appropriately interpreted "camel" or "rope" when in Matthew 19:24 and Mark 10:25 when speaking of threading the eye of a needle. What is a ROPE but an intertwining of THREAD? The apostles spoke Aramaic. The peoples of Asia Minor and to the East wherein the gospel more readily flourished was in the East from the beginnings of the dispensation. Most of those at Shavuot, ie. Pentecost were from the Aramaic speaking territories from whence came Wise Men from the East; who were Persian Magi. Western Rome did not declare "Chrisitianity" a legal religion until they ROMANIZED it following instead a more pagan EGYPTIAN model in the FOURTH CENTURY! How was Chrisitianity practiced in Aramaic-speaking territories EAST of the Aegean Sea .. BEFORE .. ROME came in to infiltrate, pervert and DESTROY the FAITH is a question many need to ask again today! Consider the names of some of the ancient cities extant from the days of pre-Christian KURDISTAN. Names like NazerYAH, FalluJAH! Biblical evidence assures that the Early Church flourishing in the EAST observed ALL the FEASTS and SABBATHS of the HOLY ONE of ISRAEL! How is it that in its "conversion" the WESTERN WORLD still observes the same heathen festivals and traditions that were extant among the pagans of ROME long before the spread of the gospel? What is being preached today by and large is by no means the true gospel. Only the most humble heart is ready to receive this. The HOLY SPIRIT could NEVER abolish DIVINE LAW! It is the LAW, the SCHEMES, the RULE of HEATHEN PRINCIPALITIES and POWERS in the diversity of FLESHLY RULE that is proven foolish and abolished by the HOLY SPIRIT! For when MESSIAH declared, GO FORTH and CONVERT the NATIONS, it is certain that the RULE of the NATIONS was to be ABOLISHED by the RULE of the KING over all KINGS unto who ALL RULE was from the FATHER given! Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. Those who know the historical facts realize first that Antioch was in Aramamean territory among Aramaic speaking people in Syria. Most of the territories that have been framed Asia Minor and the territories of the ancient ACHAEMENID, PARTHIAN, MEDO-PERSIAN EMPIRE were to the NORTH and to the EAST of ISRAEL. In these territories at the time of the GOSPEL DISPENSATION, the dominant language was still some dialectical of Aramaic tongue. Go to www.pegotcha2ta.org Look under Interlinear .. and type in the word "Christian" and you will note the Aramaic translation or better related, the moreso original form of the word. What most have not yet understood however, is WHY many descendants of the ancient Persian Empire are called "KURDS", and why those who seek to see a restoration of their ancient roots refer to their ancient territories as "KURDISTAN" ie. KuRDiSTaN. How many understand that a monotheist revolution had occured in the EAST some 600 years before the birth of Yeshua; the likes of which prepared them for the dispensation at a dimension never which had occurred in the WEST. The foiunder of the ancient Persian Empire the KJV calls CyRuS. He was called the KING OF THE EAST! (Compare Isaiah 41-42-43 .. 45 & 49/ Rev.7 concerning the Angel from the Rising Sun, restoration of Israel then to the gentiles, sun not smiting .. springs of water .. Isaiah 24-26 .. the wiping of tears from all eyes .. etc. Rev.16:12 is in Aramaic translated KING OF THE EAST .. singular! Compare the drying up of the EUPHRATES, the RIVER of BABYLON! The bible calls CYRUS an Annointed One, even Messiah! See Isaiah 44:28-ch.45) For certain, everything written at Isaiah 45 is by no means found fully come to pass! Later the Persian Empire was called the Sassanid Empire. At least that is what the WEST called it. ISLAM arose out of retaliation against Roman persecution and slaughter that had occured much more frequently in the EAST! In fact, anyone who observed JEWISH FEASTS and SABBATHS was accounted immediately criminal, a heretic if he called himself a CHRISTIAN! A CHRISTIAN who observed JEWISH FESTIVALS was seen as a THREAT to the RUSE of ROMAN POWER gathered through the FABLE of primacy unto global rule through KEFA which the ROMANS preferred to frame as the JEW PETER or "JUPITER"! Under ROMAN LAW, practice of JEWISH SABBATHS and FEASTS was mutually exclusive! ROME, PAX ROMANA had to enforce a false definition of a Christian in order to preserve the unconverted Roman state! Not realizing these facts with a wary eye has caused a lot of confusion in the history books, BELIEVE ME! MUCH more to say about this. BELIEVE ME! The title of tribal lordship from whence he came was called, "KuRTi, from whence we get the distinction we know as "KURDS" or "KURDISh" indigenous to IRAN, IRAQ etc. This was the people who freed ISRAEL from BABYLONIAN captivity. Cyrus' primary acversaries was the GREEKS. How many have noted what JOEL and ZEPHANIAN say about what shall happen to GRECIAN influence in the latter day of the JUDGMENT of MESSIAH. Careful study shows an reuniting of the SEED of ABRAHAM ISAAC and ISHMAEL when you consider the religious leanings of the people currently in the GAZA strip! WORLD PEACE is a plan formed long ago. Gotta go for now. Any comments? Anticipating the restoration of the FAITH, Zaddikimyah Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: nChrist on April 14, 2005, 03:07:08 PM Again, it is impossible to tell where you are coming from or where you are going with your messages.
This is the Bible Study area on a Christian forum. Who is Jesus Christ to you and what does HE mean to you? Moderator Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 14, 2005, 06:54:31 PM YAH once spoke to me saying thusly. "The greatest wisdom is not in what men THINK they know, but what they DON'T KNOW! For what men have thought of as wisdom, is NOT WISDOM at all!"
The one you call "Jesus Christ", I do not know Him by that name. His actual title was Y'shua ben Yoseph, later know as Y'shua ha Maschiah! He was called by another latter name in the Aramaic territories where His Aramaic-speaking followers were called Koretsyanea, as was the original title used by the believers at Antioch. Contrary to popular Western thought, the MESSIAH did not give His life that any FALSE LOGIC remain; but that ALL ERRANT THOUGHT and MISBELIEF be cast down through DISCIPLINE in the HOLY SPIRIT! In this way only could there ever be with YAH a HOLY COVENANT of PEACE and LIFE! He gave His life to be LORD. He gave His life for sake of mankind that we be HIS! No longer subject the miscreant ideals of diverse and unreasoning humanity! His purpose as the SON of YAH was to REDEEM mankind unto the PURE and PERFECT THOUGHTS and PLANS of YAH! Yeshua is SAVIOR because ALL the PRECEPT of POWER and TRUTH are HIS! Those who BELIEVE in HIM as HE IS, .. NOT as MEN IMAGINE HIM shall find COVENANT AGREEMENT with HIM! A world harmonized unto the ONE MIND is PEACE! This is the PROMISE of MESSIAH! For this reason He declared, GO YE FORTH and CONVERT ALL NATIONS .. to BELIEVE and DO EVERYTHING which I have comMINDed YOU! All the world harmonized by ONE KING is PEACE! No more WAR, no more CONFLICT, no more FALSE IMAGINATIONS, no more being BLINDED by SELFISH AMBITION and presumptuous maybe's and OPINION, but a receivership in the TRUTH that shall set men FREE unto ONE PEACE, FREE unto eternal prescence before the FATHER! There must be a BAPTISM unto the ONE PERFECT CLEANSING of the human heart, mind and soul .. that it have love for NO LIE, .. but the WILL and KNOWLEDGE of YAH ALONE! In this manner shall mankind once more be able to fulfilll the FIRST comMINDment .. You shall love the LORD thy YAH with ALL your MIND, HEART, and SOUL! HEAR O ISRAEL! HEAR ALL this WORLD! There is but ONE LORD! The LORD thy ONE LORD is ONE! Let there be NO FALSE GODS, NO STRANGE IDEAS, NO FALSE PRACTICES, NO FALSE TRUST among you! He is the god of no man's manufactured imaginings! For thus sayeth the LORD I AM that I AM! Not as any man has imagined! He who would KNOW ME must come to ME! Salvation in the ONE truth is not after the devising of men, the knowledge of the PERFECT unadulterated FAITH is the GIFT of YAH. WHO is it that has truly MATURED to GROW in the GIFT GRACE of the HOLY SPIRIT at last to OVERCOME the DECEITS of this WORLD!? (Rev]12:9) It is written, "If I do not go, the COMFORTER, the HOLY SPIRIT will not come. But when He comes, He shall testify of ME, and show you what is to come pass in the future." What mankind does not understand by and large is that man was created to be a HABITATION of the HOLY SPIRIT; the PURE THOUGHTS of YAH and the THOUGHTS of NO OTHER! The REDEMPTION of the human soul has to do with the eradication of all DECEITS. For he who beileves a LIE is the SERVANT of the FATHER of LIES .. till the TRUE WORD of the SON of YAH comes into his heart to DELIVER him! (John 8) MESSIAH came into this already confused and errant thinking world therefore not to condemn it with his words of reproof, but to save it from the CONFLICT within wrought of MAN'S MISIMAGINATIONS! He said, "I am the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE, no man comes unto the FATHER but by THE TRUTH I reveal LINE upon LINE and PRECEPT upon PRECEPT, to the MEASURING LINE to the PLUMMET!" (See Isaiah 28) It is written that before the JUDGMENT, He must declare unto all the earth a REPORT that to most will be a TERROR and a VEXATION! "For the cloth is too short, the warp is weak, and too short for a man to wrap himself up in it!" (Isaiah 28) This is He who MUST RESTORE mankind to the FOUNDATIONS of TRUTH! What MOST who wish to call themselves CHRISTIANS do not understand is that the one they THINK they know as the MESSIAH, is NOT the ESSENCE and NATURE nor WAYS nor THOUGHTS of the TRUE MESSIAH! It is instead the words of men who themselves in so many ways have ERRED! See Isaiah 29. Because they stood against Mt.ZION, the LAW of ISRAEL .. most thinking they have received true doctrine will find they MISSED the MARK, MISSED the ESSENCE of the WORDS! "With their LIPS they draw to him, but their understanding is FAR FROM HIM/ SIN/ ERRANT THINKING/ ERRANT SPIRIT .. and their WORSHIP towards ME is NOT OF MY ONE HOLY SPIRIT, NOT of the ONE MIND of the MESCHIAH .. but after the MASS of CONFUSION that is the VARIED IMAGININGS/ PRECEPTS/ unconverted THOUGHTS of MEN! Sadly, because men have thoght it the GRACE, the GIFR of YAH that they be subject to the diverse ideals of MEN; more than the far more precious wisdom that is the LAW of YAH, most who claim the title as CHRISTIAN in fact have NEVER KNOWN HIM .. even as neither have known him THEIR PASTORS! (Matthew 7:13-28) MOST who call themselves Christians today have never known the comMINDments, the WILL, the CONSCIENCE which the LAW ofthe FATHER! Shall one say that the RULE of diversely confused and afflicted with all manner of illusions MEN, is wiser than the THOUGHTS of YAH HIMSELF? (Isaiah 29-30) considering that the GREEKS who called themselves gods; had no word to differentiate between divine LAW and their own fLAW, .. the verse which reads Not under the LAW but under GRACE, actually by no means relates that transgression of the LAW, nor should ERRANT THINKING continue for those ANNOINTED. The phrase actually relates that by the adoption as SONS of YAH, the ILLUSIONS and SCHEMES of the PRINCIPALITIES and POWERS are PROVERN FOOLISH and PUT to OPEN SHAME by the GREATER WISDOM and CONSCIENCE revealed after the MIND of YAH, even the HOLY SPIRIT! NOT any more subject to the DECEITS which have MISguided the CARNAL-MINDED NATIONS, but realizing after the POWER of YAH the TRUTH that sets men FREE to comprehend indeed the LAW of YAH .. LINE upon LINE, PRECEPT upon PRECEPT in PERFECT HARMONY after HIS OWN THOUGHTS as HE from the BEGINNING INTENDED ETERNAL! Many say they have been subject to the GRACE of YAH. But the HOLY SPIRIT is indeed an AWESOME TEACHER! The WORLD we see today, the CHURCHES remain DIFFERING in THOUGHT, PRACTICE and DOCTRINE because they have NOT YEILDED unto MATURITY in the ONE SPIRIT! There remains in the midst MUCH PERVERSION of an UNCLEaN SPIRIT because the peoiples have NOT allowed the FULLNESS of YAH to enter into their hearts. Many have not understood and cannot understand the GIFT I offer with my words. YAH has spoken to me thus, "YOU must REVEAL the MYSTERIES of the MESSIAH" "Your WORDS are PRECIOUS, and ONLY for the MOST HUMBLE HEART!" Only the most humble heart is prepared to accept the fullness of discipline necessary to attain the UNITY of MIND which is DEMANDED in GRATITUDE and THANKFULNESS for the GIFT that is the TRUTH of the HOLY SPIRIT! Most have not, and most will not understand the preciousness of the words I have written to you today, because rather than accept the GIFT GRACE of the HOLY SPIRIT, they have had and preferred OTHER TEACHERS! He who dies without the iknowledge of the SOCIAL ORDER of the KINGDOM, shall perish outside the KINGDOM. He who has knowledge o that PRECIOUS LAW will yet be JUDGED according to the DICTATES of the HOLY KING! For YAH cannot covenant Himself, nor profane His name with iniquity! (Romans 2) I did not come to speak the words common to man, but to reveal HIDDEN MANNA which is revealed of the ONE SPIRIT! YAH once spoke to me saying thusly. "The greatest wisdom is not in what men THINK they know, but what they DON'T KNOW! For what men have thought of as wisdom, is NOT WISDOM at all!" I pray and so should you, for the power of understanding. WISHING YOU THE UTMOST BLESSING .. Zaddikimyah Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: nChrist on April 14, 2005, 08:16:51 PM Zaddikimyah,
It is still unknown which religion, if any, you are trying to teach. So, we'll move this to the debate section for now. Who is Jesus Christ and what does HE mean to you is an extremely easy question for a Christian. Moderator Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: ollie on April 14, 2005, 09:50:15 PM Quote Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Does it matter? God knows the heart and I am sure knows the intent of His saints no matter what the language used to refer to the Messiah, the Son of God, Jesus the Christ, the King, the Saviour, the Nazarene, Alpha and Omega etc., etc. Or His chosen, the saints, the sanctified in Him, Christian, the washed, sons of God, children, etc., etc.. It is my understanding that the name Christian for disciples of Christ as first used in Antioch was used by enemies of Christ as a derogatory terminology to describe the followers of Jesus. Pray hard, ollie Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Soldier4Christ on April 14, 2005, 10:35:41 PM Are you Messianic perhaps?
To put it in easier words for you to understand then. Who do you consider Y'shua ha Mashiah to be. Do believe that He and Yah are one and the same? Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 15, 2005, 03:08:09 PM To all who have not understood,
It is written at Isaiah 28 and at Isaiah 59 and at Psalms 14 and 53 as latter day prophecy that a world indeed today would not understand. The fact that many here have not adequately been prepared to comprehend my words is evidence to the validity of the scriptures. Isaiah 28 .. To whom shall He teach knowledge, and to whom shall He make to understand the report? It shall be a vexation and a terror for many to undersand the report! For the doctrinal cloth/ garments which men have believed sufficient to be accounted allegiance beyond their sin is found yet to be an allegiance with a fallen standard, an allegiance yet unto a carnal construct of vanity insufficient to appease mankind before the glory of YAH! Concerning who I consider Y'shua to be, I recognize Him as being ONE in SPIRIT; a REVELATOR of the SPIRIT of the FATHER within Him! For this reason He said, He who sees/ understands ME, has begun to comprehend the will of the FATHER! He who KEEPS/ PRESERVES the INTEGRITY of MY comMINDments, I will REVEAL MYSELF, the SPIRIT which I ask of the FATHER .. TO and THROUGH HIM! For I and My FATHER will make a place of ABODE in HIM! This is the manifest purpose of MAN, that he become a HABITATION, a PURE DWELLING-PLACE of the HOLY SPIRIT! He who accepts the THOUGHTS of the RESTORER of the FAITH, the THOUGHTS of YAH from the BEGINNING is he who escapes the ERRANT THINKING, the SIN of THIS world. One who seeks to preserve an lesser standard preserves sin as a servant of sin. It is therefore he who trusts in that which the author and COMPLETER of the FAITH has believed and covenant AGREED with TOTALLY, is the VESSEL accounted worthy of preservation. He who allows the TRUTH of YAH to enter his heart fully is he who is allowed entrance unto the KINGDOM of TRUTH! He who KEEPS/ DEFENDS/ PRESERVES the TRUTH in the FULLNESS of INTEGRITY shall be accounted worthy of PRESERVATION. He who preserves LESSER STANDARDS against the TRUTH shall be accounted a preserver of DECEIT! Shall a man say that a carnally conceived standard both partial and corrupt shall be accounted WISE and ACCEPTABLE before the GREATER GLORY of YAH!??? Consider the true implication of the scripture. His VISION was more REVOLUTIONARY than any MAN and the DIMENSIONS of HIS UNDERSTANDING MORE than the sons of MEN! It is not that my words are not wise. Men seek to be comforted in lesser standards they cannot percieve themselves transcending. Shall men actually believe the HOLY SPIRIT GRACES one unto a LESSER sense of CONSCIENCE that exalts CARNAL THINKING? That MESSIAH is called of YAH as the ONE LORD and KING, puts to SHAME and casts aside bondage to the MANY partial and unclean standards that have been KINGS over men! The HOLY SPIRIT does not put aside DIVINE LAW, but rather REVEALS the DIVINE INTENTS of that LAW! Malachi speaks of the OFFERING being RESTORED as of OLD, PLEASING as in FORMER YEARS in the coming of MESSIAH, even that men must RE-MEMBER the LAW which YAH gave unto MOSHEH ... lest the world entire remain subject to continual DIVISIVE CURSE, departed from the MIND of YAH and CHRIST! MESSIAH came with the ANNOINTING for sake of the AT-ONE-MENT of mankind unto the ONE LORD and KING! Isaiah 45 relates the principle well! There is so much more to be said concerning this. REMEMBER! It is those who trust in the RESTORER that shall be SAVED! (Isaiah 42-43) (Acts 3:18-21) The bible calls it the day of the RESTITUTION/ RESTORATION of ALL THINGS! For the LAW and INTENTS of YAH have NEVER CHANGED! Those who seek understanding, let them be blessed! Zaddikimyah Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Corpus on April 15, 2005, 04:11:46 PM Zaddi
Could you lay off the "Shift" key when typing? The mixture of capitalized words and lower-case words makes it difficult to follow your posts. Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Soldier4Christ on April 15, 2005, 04:12:04 PM Zaddikimyah,
It is not that people here do not understand the Word of God. There are many here that do understand it quite well due to the Holy Spirit being within them. Much of your terminology is foreign to many of us and your sentence structure (trying to be kind here) leaves somewhat to be desired. You do have many a good point if you could but get that message to be more understandable to others I am sure they would agree with most and maybe even all of your message. Something to keep in mind .... an apple by any other name is still an apple. Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: JudgeNot on April 15, 2005, 04:16:37 PM Quote The fact that many here have not adequately been prepared to comprehend my words is evidence to the validity of the scriptures. Wow. I thought I couldn’t understand you because many of the words you use are not from the English language, your unorthodox mixture of upper and lower case text gives me epileptic seizures in my eyes, and your sentence structure is in conflict with the natural word-flow in my head. Are you saying one is more enlightened if they say “Yah” rather than “Jesus”?? Let’s have it in a nutshell; do you or do you not worship The Lord Jesus Christ as God incarnate and Savior of man? Unfortunately, I may not be back for your reply. Dude; you are just too hard to read. Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Bronzesnake on April 15, 2005, 07:23:52 PM Quote The fact that many here have not adequately been prepared to comprehend my words is evidence to the validity of the scriptures. Wow. I thought I couldn’t understand you because many of the words you use are not from the English language, your unorthodox mixture of upper and lower case text gives me epileptic seizures in my eyes, and your sentence structure is in conflict with the natural word-flow in my head. Are you saying one is more enlightened if they say “Yah” rather than “Jesus”?? Let’s have it in a nutshell; do you or do you not worship The Lord Jesus Christ as God incarnate and Savior of man? Unfortunately, I may not be back for your reply. Dude; you are just too hard to read. "YAH" what he said! ;) Sorry...couldn't help myself! There are folks who don't believe Jesus is God. They can come up with all sorts of deflectionary terminology in order to avade the name Jesus, and confess Him as God. It's quite simple watch...Jesus is God! see!? :D Bronzesnake Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: felix102 on April 15, 2005, 07:36:08 PM Brothers and Sisters,
For the most part I think what Zad has written is fine. The Words in caps are emphasizes. Zad writes a lot so I havent read everything, but the stuff I have read I can testify are true. There is nothing to fear about these writings. I do not know the intent of Zad's heart but from the words written alone I can testify the truths in these. I'll start doing that soon. Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: JudgeNot on April 15, 2005, 07:44:47 PM Felix said:
Quote For the most part I think what Zad has written is fine. Whew! That's a relief - now I won't have to tax my sometimes lazy, always tired and undersized brain trying to decipher... I'll just let you guys do that and tell me if what Zad says is on the up-n-up. ;D ;D ;D ~God bless all~ JN Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Soldier4Christ on April 15, 2005, 08:38:56 PM I agree with Felix. From what I could understand of Zaddikimyah's writings I found nothing wrong. As I said above ... an apple by any other name is still an apple.
Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Bronzesnake on April 15, 2005, 09:42:15 PM I'm not convinced yet.
The JW's skirt around the name Jesus in much the same manner. If you really press them, they will eventually admit that they believe Jesus is a created being, and not God, but rather an arch angel. I would feel better if he/she would simply come out and say whether he/she believes Jesus is God. Why does it have to be so complicated and confused? There's usually a reason for this type of roundabouting. Bronzesnake Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: JudgeNot on April 15, 2005, 10:17:37 PM Bronzy - that's my point also: I don't like "complicated and confused" and I certainly don't believe God approves of "complicated and confused".
Now I'm getting dizzy... (http://www.tennillemcelrath.com/dizzy.jpg) The picture above does NOT depict Christianity. The picture below depicts Christianity. (http://www.thevoiceonline.org/images/unity.jpg) May Jesus touch the heart of those who may feel separated from His Body and bring us together as His family. Amen! Family reunions are GREAT! ;D His love to all, JN Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Reba on April 16, 2005, 12:30:38 AM When a person knows Jesus they know who He is.
Luke 9:26 26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. KJV Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 16, 2005, 12:57:15 AM In the BEGINNING was the WORD/ the THOUGHTS/ the INTENTS/ the PLAN of YAH INCARNATE in HIS SON .. and that WORD was WITH YAH, and that WORD was/ is YAH!
YAH does not call HIMSELF what HE is NOT! He does not deviate from the nature of HIMSELF! Therefore HE is infallibly ONE WITH HIMSELF! For those who would ask concerning my FAITH. Realize that I discerningly do not covenant myself to follow or practice that is revealed in its origin not holy! (Matthew 7:21-23) There is NO DECEIT in the FAITH and TESTIMONY of YAH! Someone once asked me if there is but ONE God. YAH answered through me, "Dare you believe YAH is NOT wise enough not to DEVIATE from HIS BEING and PURPOSE?" Actually the sense I got in HEARING FROM YAH was one that related perturbation at the foolish nature of the question! For YAH cannot DEViate, nor DIVide, nor is the HOLY ONE unwise to be inconsistent against HIMSELF! He is FAR TOO WISE to CONTRADICT HIMSELF! It is upon this principle that HE is ETERNAL! If it is to be said that the ONE is divisible at all, it is to say that ONE is DIVISIBLE by ONE to equate ONLY to ONE! This is the ancient intonation of the word DIVINE ie. DIV-UNE! HE is NEVER divided by TWO to become TWO! For HE does not covenant HIMSELF with that which is NOT like unto HIMSELF! HOLY means PURE and COMPLETE, therefore a SELF-SUSTAINING SELF-SUFFICIENT ONE that PURE REASON can only EXALT, never deny! The true sons of YAH are led by NO SPIRIT but that of YAH ALONE! These are the REDEEMED who have ridded their vessels of every unclean thought and subjugated themselves to service unto but ONE SPIRIT and ONE LORD! (2Cor.10:4-6) The HOLY NAME of the FATHER is indeed a FAMILY NAME! LORD SABAOTH is a title referring to ALL who REVERENTLY TREMBLE respectfully before DISCRETION of the ONE HOLY WORD, MIND and UNIFYING COM-MIND! ISRAEL is called the PEOPLE of the HOLY NAME! Many may not yet have grasped this, but many times when scripture speaks of one having spoken against the HOLY NAME, it is not only referring to one speaking against the PRECEPTS of YAH, but the KNOWLEDGE of the COVENANT, the UNIFYING DISCIPLINE of YAH that if one is without, he is accounted ACCURSED! A bastard outside the GRACE of YAH, and NOT accounted a SON; heir to the natural discipline unto which a SON is inherently privy. There are times in the scripture that it is more apparent than others that when the scripture refers to speaking against the HOLY NAME it also refers to speaking word HARMFUL to the SANCTITY of ISRAEL as a HOLY NATION! For a PEOPLE confused and fallen from PURE KNOWLEDGE of the HOLY COVENANT are afflicted in BONDAGE, subject to an other! For YAH teaches, even REPROVES WELL the SON with whom HE is PLEASED! YAH leads the BELOVED SON in the PATHS of RIGHTEOUSNESS for HIS HOLY NAME'S SAKE! For sake of the PRESERVATION of TRUTH revealed after HIS SPIRIT unto what is TRUE WORSHIP! In the eastern mind, one who honors and is disciplined after the mind of another is called a "spiritual son" though he may not be a genetic offspring. Yet being of one MIND they are of ONE SPIRIT; even functioning after the SAME HOLY THOUGHTS that are emanated of the HOLY PRESCENCE of YAH and conveyed into the BEING of those receptive to a HOLY and SINGLE-MINDED pattern of THOUGHT! YAH is HOLY SPIRIT! The SONS of YAH are LED by the emanation of that SAME MIND, the BREATH of YAH! RUACH, the word translated into SPIRIT is in the KJV ERRONEOUSLY translated GHOST as if an APPARITION! Those who have truly experienced that SPIRIT know indeed that it is the BREATH of YAH! The question is how much mankind is willing to yeild of his own spirit that the greater HOLY MIND liberates them beyond the shallow-minded LACK of VISION of which the FLESH is woefully inate. My children are called by SURNAME and therefore are called by my SURNAME though they are not ME bodily. Yet because they are MY children reared after MY discretion, they share with ME the same spiritual understanding. Such is it written of ABRAHAM, "I know him well, he will teach his children MY statutes, MY comMINDments, and MY LAWS! Those who are led by the SPIRIT of CHRIST are the SONS of YAH! If you belong to that ONE SPIRIT which spoke unto ABRAHAM, you are the SONS (graced with discipline) as was ABRAHAM according to the PROMISE of the SPIRIT promised to ABRAHAM'S SONS that they be of ONE MIND! The idea is simple, that which is OF, WITH, LIKE YAH is YAH! That which is LIKE unto YAH is certainly not UNgodly! YAH shares HIS HOLY NAME with HIS CHILDREN and does not call them by the name of an other! Yeshua called YAH His FATHER! HE called HIMSELF the SON of YAH because the WORD of YAH was WITH HIM! (John 10:34-38) Yeshua prayed unto the FATHER as HE who could SAVE HIM from DEATH! (Hebrews 5) Isaiah called MESSIAH the SERVANT of YAH upon whom dwelt the BREATH of YAH to speak of the FATHER'S GLORIOUS JUSTICE as the SUPERIOR WISDOM unto ALL NATIONS! (Isaiah 42) That which is WITH YAH is OF YAH! HOLY WORD with HOLY WORD is HOLY WORD! If a FALSEHOOD were to enter the end result would not be PURITY/ HOLINESS! WATER with WATER is WATER! Water with more water does not suddenly become sand! TRUTH with TRUTH is TRUTH! The WORD of YAH in HARMONY with HIM is OF YAH and being WITH YAH is YAH! For all the precepts of TRUTH are HIM! I AM that I AM is a HOLY NAME! It is PURE unto itself! PURITY with PURITY is PURE! That which is HOLY combined with that which is HOLY is HOLINESS! It certainly is not a thing that is called or considered UNholy! YAH calls ALL that is LIKE HIM, HIMSELF! For nothing is LIKE HIM that is not GIFTED of HIM! Carnal mind cannot even begin to imagine such a magnificently glorious nature and reasoning that is the ONE CONSCIENCE! (Rev.19:12-13 .. Isaiah 41:28-42:1) No man should swear to profane the Lord's name by their own vain imaginings! (Exodus 20:7) He who does this does the work of a devil. For such a dissservice and sin, none can be accounted blameless before YAH. No man should bear any false testimony, no false covenant, which would deceive or set his neighbor unto bondage of separation from the mind of YAH! It is those therefore that trust in the RESTORER, not those who defend any LESSER CONSCIENCE that shall be preserved! Because men have not discerned the precepts of the holy name, they have had no stable foundation after which to sustain themselves. (Matthew 7:13-28 .. Isaiah 28) (continued) Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 16, 2005, 01:00:20 AM Now concerning the idea that I previously put accents around a statement that I am NOT a New World Translation toting member of the Watchtower Society. I remember mentioning the FACT that I am indeed called from the BIRTH to TESTIFY
of YAH! YAH has declared to me that what HE has called me I must become. I must simply do what is mine to do. There are those who call themselves witnesses of Jehovah (not the real name of YAH). Yet my name from birth actually does mean WITNESS or TESTIMONY OF YAH! That is FACT! Somebody out there look up the hebrew words, "ed" and "ad" and "im" and "Yah" in hebrew. BTW. The title "god" is not of Hebrew but of pagan Canaanitish and later Druidic origin. It is through Germanic influence that that name came into the english language. (continued) Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 16, 2005, 01:02:34 AM Concerning the name "Jesus". I do not refer to Messiah by that name. The Tyndale Messianic edition reads in its preface and I quote, "The MASTER was NEVER called JESUS in his lifetime."
It is more than evident that the book of MATTHEW was written initially in ARAMAIC, not GREEK! Iesos, nor Jesus is what was written there initially. Just a FACT! The Hebrew word "YASHA" means SALVATION or SAVIOR denoting that nothing that is not agreed with HIM is a part of HIM! Thus He will SAVE His people from their ERROR!" ie. YESHUA! ie. IM-MANU-EL! YAH is WITH US! Messiah quoted, I am WITH MY FATHER and MY FATHER is WITH ME! How can any man be SAVED? SALVATION is NOT POSSIBLE after the diverse thoughts of MEN, yet ALL things, even the SALVATION of the human soul IS possible WITH YAH! (Mark 10:26) SALVATION, AT-ONE-MENT is WITH YAH, it is not WITHOUT YAH! In MATTITYAHU, (Greek rendered MATTEUS and finally MATTHEW) .. what was there could not have possibly been the name JESUS! Get a good dictionary and look under the name JESUS. In GREEK you will find IeSOUS, or Iesos .. sounds too much like ISIS, the pagan EGYPTIAN QUEEN of HEAVEN to me! The SAVIOR is NOT the ANNOINTED of ISIS nor the SON of ZEUS! He who believes/ agrees that YESHUA is the SON of YAH, the HOLY ONE of ISRAEL who will not have HIS NAME taken in VAIN or PROFANED by the VAIN IMAGINATION of an other ... shall OVERCOME the ILLUSIONS, the FALSE TRUSTS of THIS treacherous and hypocritical WORLD! (Rev.12:9) (1John 5) Who is it that overcomes but he who believes that Y'shua is the son of YAH, not ISIS, Stella Mari, Mariamne, nor Moerae, .. not Zeus or Soos, but YAH! The GREEKS schemed upon this name to maintain PAX ROMANA, Greco-Roman ideals and practices/ vanity! Consider. The so-called holy days of Jesus are those of eASTER-oth, ISHTAR, EASTER! The pagan goddess of the dawn who incites to LUSTS for many FLESHLY misconciets! ... not ONE LOVE for preservation of GOOD, even the ONE! (Ezekiel 8) Remember. HOLINESS is a LAW! LOVE that is for sake of what is GOOD also is a LAW! YAH spoke thusly to me! What MAN dares believe he has the right to CHANGE that which YAH has ordained to call a thing! What YAH calls a thing unto its purpose is a LAW! Nothing of that LAW, not even the smallest jot should ever be lost! YAH has said simply, CALL a THING that which HE has CALLED IT to be! And let a WORLD discover again what that MEANS! The Son of YAH would never exalt the traditions of any imaginaty dead diety! For this reason I give honor to the declaration of YAH! Messiah said they were NOT false prophets who DISCERNED and DID the WILL of HIS FATHER. His FATHER was NOT ZEUS and His mother was not ISIS! Even though they call her Mary. I consider it disrespectful to change the name of a thing in such a manner that it flatters the fleshly predispositions of carnal mind. Once a LAW is CON-FIRMED, no man can change anything in it! ThusayetheLORD! "There is but ONE LAW that is LAWFUL unto ORDER, and it is MINE!" Everything else not of the HOLY LAW is TRANSGRESSION/ SIN/ ERRANT/ BEASTLY/ UNREASONING MISconceit! Remember! There are words in the monotheist Hebrew, Afro-Asian EASTERN mind, which have no coefficient in polytheist Western thought! Believe me, the Greek word for LOVE percieving relationship after polytheist patterns of thought could never "unconditionally without principles" manifest a HOLY covenant with the ONE! .. but rather seeks to enfranchise a divergent conflictory many! Not a HOLY spirit! ... but a haven for unchallenged confusion! BABYLON! ONEness, purity has NO CONFLICT in it and is infinite and eternal. Divisiveness internally destroys itself! YAH is NOT schizophrenic! It is the mind of compromising and misopinionated man that is in it uncertainty unstable. Clinical definition of insanity is inability or refusal to accept the TRUTH! A world has refused to realize it has FALLEN from the GRACE of YAH! For it is BLASPHEMY to even believe that the discordant nature and divisiveness of this world is a manifestation of the ONE CONSCIENCEl, the HOLY and MAGNIFICENT MIND of the MIGHTIEST! I offer a FERVENT PRAYER for UNITY in the "body" of those who profess the name of CHRIST. For a mass of already contradictory rulings hiding under one umbrella can never make peace nor any holy thing. The divisive iniquities which men choose not to perceive already have spawned their curse. Those institutions which maintain ancient misimaginations after false authority, .. the intrusions of state within the churches .. identifies both of what are one beastly anti-christ! (2Thess.2) For what man perceives after the intellectual strength of a man that his conclusions wrought of impure and imperfect knowledge are in error? Omniscience reigns! The much more vast and stable monotheist mind cannot be contained within small-minded polytheist parameters. Nor can dissolute mind challenge effectively with solid reason the purely and completely and wholly considerate absolved. Carnal mind is blilnd. Spiritual mind perceives all things. Isa 52:14 As many were astonied at HIM; His VISION was so REVELATIONARY REVOLUTIONARY more than any MAN, and the DIMENSIONALITY of HIS REASONING more than the sons of MEN: (Isaiah 28:8-16) Isa 52:15 So shall he PURGE many nations; the KINGS shall KEEP SILENCE BEFORE HIM: for that which had NOT been told them shall they see; and that which they had NOT heard shall they CONSIDER. (Isaiah 40:30-41:2) Isa 53:1 Who hath believed/ agreed in OUR report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? (Isaiah 28:9-19>23) Isa 53:1 Who hath believed OUR report? and to whom is the ARM/ SALVATION/ DISCRETION of the LORD revealed? O Lord, for the sake of your NAME and those who would be called your own, cast aside the VEIL of MISrulers and OPEN NOW the EYES of YOUR PEOPLE! (Isaiah 24-26) Offering the blessings of His grace unto Me, and wishing you peace, SHALOM! Blessings of YAH be upon you, Zaddikimyah Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Bronzesnake on April 16, 2005, 01:26:10 AM Jesus/Joshua is a translation of YESHUA my friend. You should know this.
You do not believe in Jesus - you are not a Christian. Your posts have a cultist ring to them. Quote In the BEGINNING was the WORD/ the THOUGHTS/ the INTENTS/ the PLAN of YAH INCARNATE in HIS SON .. and that WORD was WITH YAH, and that WORD was/ is YAH! What book did you get that nonsense out of? Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The above verse is an accurate English translation from the ancient manuscripts of which there are over 20,000 copies in many different languages including Greek, Latin Vulgate and Aramaic. The KJV is a translation which is virtually word for word accurate. This has been ascertained by the world's top scholars and cross referenced using all the ancient manuscripts. This is why we know that other "bibles" are false, such as the NWT including supplementary periodicals such as Watch Tower and several other false translations including the book of Mormon. As far as your references to pagan influence - that is laughable! These false accusations have been thoroughly debunked, and have recently come to life again through a book full of lies and disinformation called the Divinci code. This book has been totally refuted and I can destroy any accusation of any pagan influences in the Bible anytime you feel like looking foolish my friend - so bring it on my misinformed friend! Jesus is God, sorry if that comes as a surprise my friend. Bronzesnake Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 16, 2005, 01:34:12 AM Today, if you hear His voice, harden not your hearts as in the day of provocation in the wilderness! (Psalm 95) (Ezekiel 20:10-20) (Hebrews 3:7-15)
Continue to read Hebrews through the 4th chapter HEBREWS considering that if JOSHUA the son of Nun had given ISRAEL the PROMISED PEACE, DAVID the PSALMIST who came later would not have prophecied concering a TIME OF PEACE to come! (Joshua 22:1-6) Note that MOSHEH preached the GOSPEL! The SURE WORD of the KINGDOM PEACE! It is those who open their hearts to Him that enter unto His Kingdom. A blessed SHABBAT / SABBATH unto all! May YAH bless you today in His wisdom! Further ... For a long time the people of YAH have been scattered among the nations in alien lands. Much appropriation has been made while off the promised land. Some of you know that PASSOVER once upon the land is determined by the first green ears of Abib; others have continued to follow the appropriations used in diaspora. Yet remember this. Nothing is as certain as observation upon the land itself despite all the calculation of men. The first Hebrew month is called Abib for a reason. Abib means "green ears". Nonetheless. For those of you who would honor the life, death, burial and ressurrection of Messiah which put to shame the errant judgment, exposed and overturned the sentencing and misjudgement of men .. remember that all these things occured in midst of the LORD'S PASSOVER! Messiah our passover lamb was sacrificed for our sakes, Therefore let us keep the PASSOVER FESTIVAL in a HOLY MANNER acceptable unto YAH! (1Cor.5:6-8) Beware the PRINCIPALITIES and POWERS, the PRECEPTS of MEN and NOT after the HOLY SPIRIT! Let no CARNAL MINDED MAN puffed up in his FLESHLY MIND take control of you to DISSUADE you against HOLY observance of ALL which YAH has declared in manner acceptable unto the HOLY ONE! (Colosians 2) Carnal mind being inconsiderate does not discern the height, depth and breadth that is the substantive essence and spiritual intents of a holy thing declared from the mouth of YAH! Carnal mind can only presume according to what dogmatically SEEMS to be wise. The TRUE SUBSTANTIVE ESSENCE and INTENTS, the REASON WHY YAH has declared what HE has DECLARED (for HE does nothing without reason) are revealed by HIS SPIRIT! He who speaks not having HEARD from YAH is a FALSE PROPHET! For he who misinterprets the HOLY WRIT does so because he does NOT KNOW YAH! (Matthew 7:13-28) Man must learn again to love what YAH has loved! What YAH has RE-JOYced in has become my JOY and REJOINED ME in HIS STRENGTH! I rejoice with HIM! We must all HEAR from Him! We must ALL as ONE DISCERN HIM! We must be no more divided, but united reasoning as ONE MIND lest the HOLY NAME be blasphemed by those who claim to worship after it! May the grace of truth He has bestowed upon me be also with you, Zaddikimyah Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Bronzesnake on April 16, 2005, 01:44:50 AM Sorry my friend, but it's as though I'm reading the diary of a madman!
I don't see the name "yah" anywhere in Mat 7:13-28 but the name of God is there - Jesus. Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Mat 7:14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: Mat 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. Mat 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: Mat 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. Mat 7:28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: Bronzesnake Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: PeterAV on April 16, 2005, 03:47:42 AM Quote from: Zaddikimyah In the BEGINNING was the WORD/ the THOUGHTS/ the INTENTS/ the PLAN of YAH INCARNATE in HIS SON .. and that WORD was WITH YAH, and that WORD was/ is YAH! What a load of drivel.Obviously you are not confessing the LORD Jesus as your LORD and Saviour.This makes you a misguided heathen.Unsaved,to boot.You need the blood of Jesus upon your sinful mind.[quote Why is it that you accept only certain words in the Holy Bible and not the rest.All Scripture stands together.Not a jot or tittle,right?Why is it that you only USE the scriptures but don't believe them?Why is it that every one here can see that you are out to lunch on this one?All you are doing is playing a fool.We expect better things,even from non-believers.Or those that may claim to be believers,but we can tell by the fruit that they are not. You seem to have lots of info,but it is all garbbled up.I think you have been making your own private interpretations throughout. No scripture is of any private interpretation. The word "private"comes from the Greek word "idios",Idiotes. When we play the authority like this,in a private fashion,we become 'idiots'. God gave us our minds and he can just as quickly take it from us too.Even if we think we have been called from our mother's womb. We are praying for you. Title: Re:Greek CHRiSTiaN or Aramean KoReTSYaNea? Post by: Shammu on April 16, 2005, 01:16:29 PM [size=12]This Topic is locked[/size] and under review.
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