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Title: MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 13, 2005, 04:29:46 PM
To the BLESSED of YAH!

Hello folks, I am a newbie here with a prayer those who read this will find my commentary refreshingly welcome.  My eyes nearly jumped from the socket when I noticed the primary name over these forums.   I had just this morning been meditating and prayerfully petitioning on this very topic for
sake of souls everywhere just this morning!

What were Messiah's last petitions for?   COMPLETION, PURITY, casting aside all worldly discord, UNITY!!

UNITY in HIM as the ONE LORD!

UNITY against whatever IMAGINATIONS have DIVIDED mankind in the VANITY of CONFUSION!    UNITY against
whatever MISconstrusions have wrought the BONDAGE
of mankind unto any LESSER CONSCIENCE than that
of YAH HIMSELF!

Great commission.   Go ye forth and CONVERT, TEACH ALL
NATIONS, PURGING them in the ONE HOLY NAME of the FATHER, SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT!   And TEACH/
CONVERT them to DO EVERYTHING which I and MY
FATHER in the ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT have commanded!
And Lo I will be with you (to preach this GOSPEL of UNITY
and PEACE) to the uttermost extremities of the earth!

Note!  I paraphrased the passage at Matthew 28:18-20 just
a bit taking into consideration the testimony at ACTS 1.
Just thought I would offer it to those who can accept it.

This commission was that all a world be made ONE after the
redeeming power of the HOLY SPIRIT which TEACHES ALL THINGS, REPROVING whatever DIVIDES MANKIND from being
ONE in YAH!   According to the Aramaic testimony of restoration, Messiah proclaimed, ""ALL POWER to reveal the RULE from on HIGH has been given unto ME!   Therefore as MY FATHER the MOST HIGH has sent ME, so I am sending YOU!   Go ye forth and CONVERT/ TEACH ALL NATIONS, ... that they be made ONE by FAITH in the ONE!

Hear O ISRAEL!   The Gentiles too must understand this.   THE LORD THY LORD is ONE LORD!      All nations
must become one again in the ONE LORD, for there is only ONE LORD unto ALL NATIONS! (Isaiah 45, 49 .. Rev.7)
YAH was NOT INCONSISTENT in speaking unto MOSHEH!
MOSHEH heard after the GIFT GRACE of YAH the WORD/
THOUGHTS of YESHUA after the GIFT/ GRACE of PERFECT TRUTH that transcended the latter fallen MISadministration and misconceits that later appeared on part of hypocritical
and treacherous WEST appointed scribes and Pharissees
who blinded from the eyes and ears of the public dared to say "We have no king but CAESAR!"  (John 1:1 .. 1Cor.10 .. Mal.4 .. )

FORGIVE (make them AT ONE MIND with THEE) FATHER!   For
in their less than perfect understanding, they do not discern, they err in what they have conspired to do! .. conform to abide in.    (In the carnality of their lack of
reason, they did not discern the glory, .. (2Cor.2:6-3:3)

For it is in separation from righteous understanding that indeed a man does sin having even pride in vanities that bind him to his divisive thoughts short of the mark; and therefore
the sin of unbelief!    A man is a servant of whoever causes him to err in deceit, till he has found the truth that would set him free!   Likewise, Messiah did not come into the world to condemn or leave this world in divisive separation, but to UNITE it as ONE beyond already extant DIVISIVE BONDAGE to the LESSER CONSCIENCE of indiscriminate MEN!   For My people are left confused, weak and vulnerable to all manner of misconciets for lack of discipine and knowledge. (John 8:26-31, 3:14-21) (Hosea 4:4-6)

Messiah was given as representative to the GLORY of the MAGNIFICENT PLAN of the FATHER the right to GLOBAL RULE!
He gave HIS LIFE that He be LORD!  .. that a WORLD be made ONE in HIM!   He gave His life "for us" that we be
HIS!  Not subject to any errant spirit of those who would
errantly believe that the GIFT GRACE of YAH is that men
be subject to a multitude of differing ruling PRECEPT/ RULING
DESIGNS of MEN as if to say the an amalgam of human ignorance could ever be accounted wiser than the wisdom of
the ONE LORD!

Messiah did not give His life and blood that men be left confused and divided in their vanities!   In fact, it is damnable SIN that any man should continue to swear to VANITIES of MISCONCEIT against the PURE and HOLY NAME of the ONE
ALMIGHTY! (Exodus 20:7) (Ephesians 2)

Men were created to be a HABITATION of the HOLY SPIRIT.
Meaning that the SOUL of a man must be redeemed from
whatever MISconceits that prevent him from becoming a
PURE VESSEL unto the LORD!   Those who do not KEEP/
PRESERVE HIS COMMINDMENTS, .. who rather in lack of inspiration through lack of diligence
remain preservers of deceit, .. shall remain under WRATH,
subject to the LAW, the MISrule of MAN!

For the HOLY SPIRIT raises the CONSCIENCE!   It is the LAW of the LORD!   The SOCIAL ORDER of PEACE for ALL HIS PEOPLE that ALL may comprehend with ALL the SAINTS of
old what is the height, depth, and breadth of understanding in ONE LORD, ONE transcendant FAITH, realizing ONE PURITY
even to the FULL MEASURE and STATURE revealed of the
ANNOINTING! (Ephesians 2-4)  

It is written in essence, "If you will KEEP, PRESERVE, MAINTAIN in INTEGRITY the FULNESS of MY COMMINDMENTS as is submission to the FULL REVELATION of MY SPIRIT, .. I and MY FATHER will REVEAL OURSELVES TO and THROUGH YOU!    Shall men reject a piece of the LORD'S MIND that they be BLESSED/ REUNITED in the greater grace and knowledge of and with HIM? (John 14)

Messiah did NOT give His LIFE and BLOOD that those who profess HIS HOLY NAME would profane it after their own misimagining vanities to confusie themselves as to who HE is!
He gave His life that BY HIS DISCRETION shall many errant spirits be corrected justly! (Isaiah 53)

Shall men say they are COMPLETE in HIM and not be AGREED as ONE in HIM for being divided by the intrusion of other MISjudges, the principalities and powers? (Colosians 2)

Be blessed in YAH!

(to be continued)









 


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 13, 2005, 05:47:34 PM
(in continuation from previous message above)

MAY YAH TRULY BLESS YOU TO KNOW HIS WILL!

It  would appear that the first objective mankind must understand is this.

In the BEGINNING, mankind was created to the GLORY of YAH, was NOT SEPARATED from the KNOWLEDGE of YAH, but in COMMUNION with YAH in knowledge.

Man's current state of division and confusion in unbelief is in fact a part of the CURSE.   For men have continued to trust
in his IMAGININGS of MIS-CHIEF against the PURE RULE of the
ONE YAH!

Men have called it GRACE that they remain DIVIDED under the RULE of MISguided men against the LAW of ZION, the GOSPEL REIGN of PEACE. (Isaiah 29:7-16 .. Isaiah 52:7)

The bible speaks of how in these latter days this perversion against the GRACE and KNOWLEDGE in TRUTH of YAH shall be exposed and the system which preserve ALLEGIANCES to WICKED MISCONCEITS ALREADY at WORK will be exposed!
(2Thessolonians 2 .. Isaiah 11 .. John 8:24) (Jude 4)

The LAW of YAH came through MOSHEH, but of the 1500 years that followed ISRAEL had for 700 of those years been in BONDAGE to other nations seduced and divided under persuasion of MANY oppressive gentile kings having not the true knowledge of YAH! (Epheisians 2:1-<8-12>-4:4)

For 700 years under other empires, without a king of her own seed.   Is it any wonder that MESSIAH indeed needed to
return unto ISRAEL that men beyond the blindness of their
FLESH, again perceive the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the LAW and
PROPHETS after the GIFT of the HOLY SPIRIT that reveals
the TRUE UNDERSTANDING of the LAW as REVEALED by the
SPIRIT of the PROPHETS!  

He who dies without knowledge of the social order of the Kingdom YAH/ LAW of YAH perishes in SEPARATION/ SIN wrought of lack of knowledge.   It is a GIFT therefore to
receive the BLESSEDNESS that transcends the CURSE knowing that ISRAEL shall be the LIGHT and RESTORATION
of ALL the NATIONS!    The MANY shall be RECONCILED
by the DISCRETION of the ONE! (Romans 5:6---)

Shalll men say they are FAVORED for perpetual UNBELIEF or
trust in ILLUSON?  

REMEMBER!   The HOLY SPIRIT can NEVER abolish or denegrate DIVINE LAW in any way.   It is the RULE of MEN
that is proven foolish by the HOLY SPIRIT!   The HOLY
SPIRIT is given that men should not MISimagine according
to FLESHLY MIND of VANITY!   For it is VAIN to seek after
any other eventuality and goal other than that which from
the beginning is not of YAH!   Any plan which is not unto
UNISON in PERFECT PEACE in TRUTH is VAIN ILLUSION!  Yet
the ILLUSION does not reveal of itself that it is a lie.

Messiah comes to prove foolish that which has seemed wise unto men!   It is not the rule of YAH that is put away by His
Spirit.   Rather it is the unreasoning principalities and powers whose counterfiet authority is put to shame.   For what is most dogma, but that which seems wise unto it is proven falsehood.  What then are the mysteries of iniquity preserving illusions of fallse righteousness, misperceptions of the diety that were already at work?   Shall man after the spirit of man discerrn the sin of his own thoughts?

Ezek 13:8  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye    
   have spoken VANITY, and seen LIE, therefore, behold, I am
   AGAINST you, saith the Lord GOD.


The vessel that preserves misconceit is esteemed as the breaking of a potters vessel that refuses to be shapen after the wisdom and intents of the potter. (Isaiah 29:8-30:16,
Isaiah 45, Isaiah 41-42, Isaiah 66, Psalm 2, Rev.2:26-29)

The salvation of the human soul is in the eradication of every spirit of illusion!   For he who trusts in lies is a servant of those who have lied to him; till he confirms in his heart the wisdom of abiding by the TRUTH that exposes illusion.  This is the setting free of the human soul!   For man must remove deciet from the midst of his being that the light go forth speedily! (Isaiah 58)    Once before it was because men refrained from the commandment of YAH that his heart remained misled. (Hebrews 3-4  .. If JOSHUA the son of Nun\
had given Israe rest (Joshua 22:1-6) the DAWID who came later would NOT have otherwise spoken of a LATTER DAY!   The PROMISE of ISRAEL as a LIGHT unto ALL nations!
(Romans 11:25-27 ... Isaiah 59-60)

Indeed, the churches have not held firm to the FAITH, else
by now a world would be ONE and NOT divided.   Yet the nations have perverted the gospel after the rule of men wherever it went! (Colosians 2)   This was the fall from faith and from the grace that reveals the higher knowlege of YAH!
WHO shall hearken to this, and who shall hearken to other counsel in a world where a people not discerning their iniquity has not said, "Restore!" (Isaiah 42-43)

What manner SPIRIT is it that tells men they are COMPLETE and UNIFIED with YAH by SIN/ SEPARATION of MISconceit?
There is NO MISconceit in FAITH in YAH.   If men believe in
any illusion; if they by trust in illusion are separated under a veil that blinds them of greater dimension of truth; WHAT SPIRIT have they been led by? (Romans 9 .. Matt.7:13-28)
There are many who claim to be doing WONDERFUL or
INSPIRED WORKS, DESIGNS, DOCTRINES.   Messiah will
tell many of them they NEVER KNEW HIM because they did
NOT DISCERN the NEED after revelation of the KNOWLEDGE of the FATHER to DO the WILL of HIS FATHER! (Isaiah 29:22-30:16) (Hebrews 10:26-31)

In GRATITUDE for the GIFT that is the TRUE GRACE of YAH!


In YAH may you be TRUTHFULLY BLESSED,  

Zaddikimyah


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: MalkyEL on April 13, 2005, 07:53:29 PM
Unity in Messiah was accomplished when Jesus died on the cross.  Unity is a spiritual issue, not a physical one.  All those who are one with Him in Spirit are in unity with each other in Him, regardless of location, ethnicity. [In Christ in neither Jew nor Greek, male nor female, free nor slave].

Spiritual unity is not about keeping the law.  The unity in Messiah is about relationship with Him and doing His will - which His plan for our lives.  This is how the unity of Spirit is manifested in this age:  to bear our cross, to love Him as He loves us, to love others as He loves us, and to serve others as He gave Himself for us.

The Law was fulfilled in Messiah.  We continue to fulfil that law with the love that He has placed within our hearts.

Jhn 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Jam 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

Matt 22:37 Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.

Rom 10:4 For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Col 2:13 ¶ And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
14 blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and has taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross.
15 Having stripped rulers and authorities, He made a show of them publicly, triumphing over them in it.

Hbr 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

Hbr 9:10 [Which stood] only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed [on them] until the time of reformation.

Eph 2:14 ¶ For He is our peace, He making us both one, and He has broken down the middle wall of partition between us ,
15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity (the Law of commandments contained in ordinances) so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, making peace between them ;
16 and so that He might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity in Himself.
17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off, and to those who were near.
18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.



Gal 3:19 ¶ Why then the Law? It was added because of transgressions, until the Seed should come to those to whom it had been promised, being ordained through angels in the Mediator's hand.
20 But the Mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the Law then against the promises of God? Let it not be said ! For if a law had been given which could have given life, indeed righteousness would have been out of Law.
22 But the Scripture shut up all under sin, so that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under Law, having been shut up to the faith about to be revealed.
24 So that the Law has become a trainer of us until Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But faith coming, we are no longer under a trainer.
26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many as were baptized into Christ, you put on Christ.
28 There cannot be Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is no male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise.



Gal 4:21 ¶ Tell me, those desiring to be under Law, do you not hear the Law?
22 For it is written: Abraham had two sons, the one out of the slave-woman, and one out of the free woman.
23 But, indeed, he out of the slave-woman has been born according to flesh, and he out of the free woman through the promise;
24 which things are being allegorized; for these are the two covenants, one indeed from Mount Sinai bringing forth to slavery, which is Hagar.
25 For Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and answers to Jerusalem which now is, and is in slavery with her children.
26 But the Jerusalem from above is free, who is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, "Rejoice, barren one not bearing; break forth and shout, you not travailing; for more are the children of the desolate than she having the husband."
28 But brothers, we, like Isaac, are children of promise.
29 But then even as he born according to flesh persecuted him born according to the Spirit, so it is also now.
30 But what does the Scripture say? "Cast out the slave-woman and her son; for in no way shall the son of the slave-woman inherit with the son of the free woman."
31 Then, brothers, we are not children of a slave-woman, but of the free woman.

Acts 15:5 But some of those from the sect of the Pharisees, having believed, rose up, saying, It was necessary to circumcise them and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
6 ¶ And the apostles and elders were assembled to see about this matter.
7 And after much disputing, Peter rose up and said to them, Men, brothers, you recognize that from ancient days God chose among us that through my mouth the nations should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, who knows the hearts, bore them witness, giving them the Holy Spirit even as to us.
9 And He put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why do you tempt God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples, a yoke which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
23 And they wrote these things by their hand: The apostles and elders and brothers send greeting to the brothers, from the nations in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.
24 Because we have heard that certain ones who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, Be circumcised and keep the law! (to whom we gave no such command);
25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 men who have given up their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 Therefore we have sent Judas and Silas, who will also announce to you the same things by word.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these necessary things:
29 that you abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication; from which, if you keep yourselves, you shall do well. Be prospered.
30 Then indeed they being let go, they came to Antioch. And gathering the multitude, they delivered the letter.
31 And when they had read it , they rejoiced at the comfort.
32 And Judas and Silas, also being prophets themselves, exhorted the brothers with many words and confirmed them .

shalom, nana



Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 13, 2005, 10:51:36 PM
Peace in YAH is LINE upon LINE and PRECEPT upon PRECEPT to the MEASURING LINE to the PLUMMET LINE!

None attains AT-ONE-MENT in the HOLY NAME who differs with YAH in even just ONE POINT!

WHO shall discern the prophetic admonishment of ISAIAH 49
with reference to REVELATION 7 as LATTER DAY PROPHECY?

Too much TRADITION has blinded the minds.  Too many have been blinded captive within the "BOX" for their love of the far too many crate and coffin-makers! (Hosea 7:9-15)

Soon the VEIL shall be removed that has BLINDED ALL the NATIONS! (Isaiah 24-26:12-13)

The true children of ABRAHAM must be UNITED, not in discord.
UNITED AGAINST whatever has divided the hearts of men!

MAY YAH BLESS YOU IN YAH!    

Zaddikimyah



Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Bronzesnake on April 14, 2005, 12:36:54 AM
Who is "YAW"?

 Bronzesnake


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 14, 2005, 01:13:11 PM
Reply to:

Who is "YAW"?
Bronzesnake

More appropriately, WHO is "YAH"!  

I am not one to make light of things in light of just how much more than what most perceive is needed to be restored in our society today.   I just relate the facts.   There is surely a need after the HOLY SPIRIT to comprehend with all the HOLY ONES, what is the height, depth, and breadth!   This would be
the REASONING TOGETHER as ONE that leads beyond all
conflict unto life!

Read for yourself ...

Psa 68:4  Sing unto God, sing praises to his NAME: extol
    him that rideth upon the heavens by his NAME JAH,
    and rejoice before him.

I am not a JW, though indeed I am surely called from before my birth to declare the testimomy of YAH!   However it is
worthy of note that the Watchtower Society's New World
translation bears this translation of the verse at Psalm 68:4.

Ps 68:4  Sing YOU to God, make melody to his NAME;
     Raise up [a song] to the One riding through the desert
     plains AS JAH, which is His NAME; and jubilate
     before Him;

We both should know that the ancient Hebrew did not carry the vowel "J", therefore the proper rendering in the Hebrew
is more like YAH, however there are those who would beg to
differ because they have not heard personally how the ancients would have spoken it except through direct spiritual
communion.  

In any case, if you are willing to receive it, I for one have heard the HOLY NAME directly spoken in states of spiritual communion and enlightenment.   The form "YAH" is very
definitely a contraction of a longer form.

I am not a phonetics expert, therefore if I were to write the sound that I heard, I am not sure it would be accurately related here.

Believe me, the way they say ABRAHAM here in the U.S. is
definitely a far cry from the AhBrah'Ahm-like sound which
I heard when first I was introduced unto the Elders.  In fact, the sound of the "A's " carried with it an intonation somewhat even like a short "u" rather than an short "o".    I am not sure if there are phonetics in english that could exactly write that sound.  Again, I offer this IF you are willing to receive it.   He who has the ears to hear, let him hear!

The bible says we must REMEMBER the LAW which YAH gave
unto MOSHEH before the GREAT DAY of MESSIAH'S RETURN
to claim the THRONE of DAVID in a day when ISRAEL shall indeed be RESTORED as a LIGHT unto ALL the NATIONS!

NOTE!  The bible does declare, "I will restore the hearts of the Fathers to the children .....     How is it that men find
it strange when such occurences as these begin to happen?
Shall the children of Abraham only know discipline after the mind of other patriarchs?    Without the initial reference, how
shall one know whose child he is?    To truly know the spirit of the Meschiah is to discern also WHO is YAH.   For Messiah petitioned the Holy Spirit from His Father! (John 14)    Not to know YAH is also to be without the true knowledge of Meschiah!

Messiah said, "It is not everyone that cries out to Me, LORD of LORDS that enters into the Kingdom of heaven, but he who DOES the WILL of MY FATHER which is in heaven.  

Sadly, what most do among the churches today is NOT the FAITH of old.   I see the same precepts, patterns of thought
and practices that existed lamong the heathen ong before the dispensatoin of the gospel, being still present among the churches today!   Easter for instance without question in that it exalts the Greco-Roman polytheist concept of "lust-love" that is called "agape".   It is a pluralist and compromised concept that can never manifest holy covenant with the ONE YAH!      AHAB on the other hand rationalizes correctly that for any good to be manifest or preserved demands a LAW!
HOLINESS and PEACE and LIFE for example, are a LAW!

Blessed in YAH, and blessings to you ... Zaddikimyah



Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: JudgeNot on April 14, 2005, 01:35:11 PM
I have a question - I hope it is not a 'dumb' question:
Quote
However it is worthy of note that the Watchtower Society's New World translation...
Is that the false translation of the Jehova's Witnesses?


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: nChrist on April 14, 2005, 01:50:27 PM
Zaddikimyah,

I'm having a very difficult time understanding where you are coming from and where you are going with your posts.

This is a Christian forum, and we recognize Jesus Christ as Almighty God - our Lord and Saviour. We further recognize Almighty God as a Holy Trinity - God The Father, God The Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit - BUT THE THREE ARE ONE.

Jesus Christ died on the Cross for our sins over 2,000 years ago. He arose from the dead on the third day and ascended back from where HE came, HEAVEN. Jesus Christ is our Living Lord and Saviour forever, and faith in HIM is the only way to break the curse of sin and death. Because of Jesus Christ, we no longer live under the Law of Moses that no man could keep. We live under the Gospel of God's Grace. The CROSS is the most precious event of human history to us, and The Jesus Christ - The Christ - The Messiah - The Lord of Lords - The Almighty God, was the ONE who was crucified on that CROSS. HE was the only Perfect, Holy, Spotless, and acceptable sacrifice Who could and can Save us.

You don't mention Jesus Christ, so we have no idea what you believe about Jesus Christ. Most of us speak English here and we use English Holy Bibles. So, it would be nice if you would tell us what you believe about Jesus Christ.

In terms of the Law of Moses, we don't live under the Law of Moses:

Matthew 22:36  Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Matthew 22:37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Matthew 22:38  This is the first and great commandment.
Matthew 22:39  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 22:40  On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Love In Christ,
Tom

John 5:24  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Romans 8:2  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

John 8:12  Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

Hebrews 12:2  Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Romans 5:1-2  Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

I Peter 3:18  For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

1 Corinthians 1:18  For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Philippians 4:19  But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: nChrist on April 14, 2005, 08:19:55 PM
Zaddikimyah,

It is still unknown which religion, if any, you are trying to teach. So, we'll move this to the debate section for now. Who is Jesus Christ and what does HE mean to you is an extremely easy question for a Christian.

Moderator


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: ollie on April 14, 2005, 10:05:27 PM
A revelation on unity.

 Ephesians 4

 "1.  I Therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
 2.  With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
 3.  Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
 4.  There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
 5.  One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
 6.  One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

 7.  But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

 8.  Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
 9.  (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
 10.  He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
 11.  And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
 12.  For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
 13.  Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
 14.  That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
 15.  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
 16.  From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love."


Pray hard,
ollie


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: ollie on April 14, 2005, 10:13:56 PM
And also:

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Peace in YAH is LINE upon LINE and PRECEPT upon PRECEPT to the MEASURING LINE to the PLUMMET LINE!

None attains AT-ONE-MENT in the HOLY NAME who differs with YAH in even just ONE POINT!

???

ollie


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: ollie on April 14, 2005, 10:26:41 PM
(in continuation from previous message above)

MAY YAH TRULY BLESS YOU TO KNOW HIS WILL!

It  would appear that the first objective mankind must understand is this.

In the BEGINNING, mankind was created to the GLORY of YAH, was NOT SEPARATED from the KNOWLEDGE of YAH, but in COMMUNION with YAH in knowledge.

Man's current state of division and confusion in unbelief is in fact a part of the CURSE.   For men have continued to trust
in his IMAGININGS of MIS-CHIEF against the PURE RULE of the
ONE YAH!

Men have called it GRACE that they remain DIVIDED under the RULE of MISguided men against the LAW of ZION, the GOSPEL REIGN of PEACE. (Isaiah 29:7-16 .. Isaiah 52:7)

The bible speaks of how in these latter days this perversion against the GRACE and KNOWLEDGE in TRUTH of YAH shall be exposed and the system which preserve ALLEGIANCES to WICKED MISCONCEITS ALREADY at WORK will be exposed!
(2Thessolonians 2 .. Isaiah 11 .. John 8:24) (Jude 4)

The LAW of YAH came through MOSHEH, but of the 1500 years that followed ISRAEL had for 700 of those years been in BONDAGE to other nations seduced and divided under persuasion of MANY oppressive gentile kings having not the true knowledge of YAH! (Epheisians 2:1-<8-12>-4:4)

For 700 years under other empires, without a king of her own seed.   Is it any wonder that MESSIAH indeed needed to
return unto ISRAEL that men beyond the blindness of their
FLESH, again perceive the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the LAW and
PROPHETS after the GIFT of the HOLY SPIRIT that reveals
the TRUE UNDERSTANDING of the LAW as REVEALED by the
SPIRIT of the PROPHETS!  

He who dies without knowledge of the social order of the Kingdom YAH/ LAW of YAH perishes in SEPARATION/ SIN wrought of lack of knowledge.   It is a GIFT therefore to
receive the BLESSEDNESS that transcends the CURSE knowing that ISRAEL shall be the LIGHT and RESTORATION
of ALL the NATIONS!    The MANY shall be RECONCILED
by the DISCRETION of the ONE! (Romans 5:6---)

Shalll men say they are FAVORED for perpetual UNBELIEF or
trust in ILLUSON?  

REMEMBER!   The HOLY SPIRIT can NEVER abolish or denegrate DIVINE LAW in any way.   It is the RULE of MEN
that is proven foolish by the HOLY SPIRIT!   The HOLY
SPIRIT is given that men should not MISimagine according
to FLESHLY MIND of VANITY!   For it is VAIN to seek after
any other eventuality and goal other than that which from
the beginning is not of YAH!   Any plan which is not unto
UNISON in PERFECT PEACE in TRUTH is VAIN ILLUSION!  Yet
the ILLUSION does not reveal of itself that it is a lie.

Messiah comes to prove foolish that which has seemed wise unto men!   It is not the rule of YAH that is put away by His
Spirit.   Rather it is the unreasoning principalities and powers whose counterfiet authority is put to shame.   For what is most dogma, but that which seems wise unto it is proven falsehood.  What then are the mysteries of iniquity preserving illusions of fallse righteousness, misperceptions of the diety that were already at work?   Shall man after the spirit of man discerrn the sin of his own thoughts?

Ezek 13:8  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye    
   have spoken VANITY, and seen LIE, therefore, behold, I am
   AGAINST you, saith the Lord GOD.


The vessel that preserves misconceit is esteemed as the breaking of a potters vessel that refuses to be shapen after the wisdom and intents of the potter. (Isaiah 29:8-30:16,
Isaiah 45, Isaiah 41-42, Isaiah 66, Psalm 2, Rev.2:26-29)

The salvation of the human soul is in the eradication of every spirit of illusion!   For he who trusts in lies is a servant of those who have lied to him; till he confirms in his heart the wisdom of abiding by the TRUTH that exposes illusion.  This is the setting free of the human soul!   For man must remove deciet from the midst of his being that the light go forth speedily! (Isaiah 58)    Once before it was because men refrained from the commandment of YAH that his heart remained misled. (Hebrews 3-4  .. If JOSHUA the son of Nun\
had given Israe rest (Joshua 22:1-6) the DAWID who came later would NOT have otherwise spoken of a LATTER DAY!   The PROMISE of ISRAEL as a LIGHT unto ALL nations!
(Romans 11:25-27 ... Isaiah 59-60)

Indeed, the churches have not held firm to the FAITH, else
by now a world would be ONE and NOT divided.   Yet the nations have perverted the gospel after the rule of men wherever it went! (Colosians 2)   This was the fall from faith and from the grace that reveals the higher knowlege of YAH!
WHO shall hearken to this, and who shall hearken to other counsel in a world where a people not discerning their iniquity has not said, "Restore!" (Isaiah 42-43)

What manner SPIRIT is it that tells men they are COMPLETE and UNIFIED with YAH by SIN/ SEPARATION of MISconceit?
There is NO MISconceit in FAITH in YAH.   If men believe in
any illusion; if they by trust in illusion are separated under a veil that blinds them of greater dimension of truth; WHAT SPIRIT have they been led by? (Romans 9 .. Matt.7:13-28)
There are many who claim to be doing WONDERFUL or
INSPIRED WORKS, DESIGNS, DOCTRINES.   Messiah will
tell many of them they NEVER KNEW HIM because they did
NOT DISCERN the NEED after revelation of the KNOWLEDGE of the FATHER to DO the WILL of HIS FATHER! (Isaiah 29:22-30:16) (Hebrews 10:26-31)

In GRATITUDE for the GIFT that is the TRUE GRACE of YAH!


In YAH may you be TRUTHFULLY BLESSED,  

Zaddikimyah
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Man's current state of division and confusion in unbelief is in fact a part of the CURSE.  For men have continued to trust
in his IMAGININGS of MIS-CHIEF against the PURE RULE of the
ONE YAH!
Are you saying faith in the Son of God, Jesus Christ is man's "imaginings of mischief against the pure rule of Yah"weh ????

ollie


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: felix102 on April 15, 2005, 02:17:31 AM
AMEN Zaddikimyah. We drink from ONE Spirit!!

My heart sort of raced when I saw what you wrote. Yesterday and the day before that, I got a conviction in me that something had to be done about the body of Christ. Sure enough brother, this is the same thing I had in mind. I sure did hear this petition for unity. I'm thinking that it will really hit hard in some people but it is something needed.

I'll give my version of it some time later. You know...I was about to come here and write something about the Church of God but after reading what you wrote I dont feel the words anymore. But I'll show you what I have to say and it may make your message more clear.


Just some before I forget...
1 cor 1:21
For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him...

Jesus said, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:

‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in VAIN; their teachings are but rules TAUGHT by men.'
(mark 7:6,7)

And then will I profess unto them, I never KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (matt 7:23)

Sadly, this Word speaks against many churches across this nation. God wants worshippers that worship Him in spirit and in Truth! (john 4:24) It is these that God seeks.

If you feel convicted by this pray this right now:

Lord Jesus, I want to worship you in spirit and in truth. I want to worship you in SPIRIT and in TRUTH!!! Give me the circumstances; show me the way. I know I can do nothing for myself, but this is my desire. Give me grace.


For the Church, the Body of Christ.

Oh Lord Jesus, take away these divisions among brothers. May you cause us to forsake our minds and follow your one Spirit. Cause these doctrinal barriers to be broken down. Man cannot do this but You can! We do not know how things work nor what will happen but You know and You are the Creator!

Brothers and Sisters, to defeat Satan we MUST walk in one accord. I praise ChristiansUnite for being named Christians UNITE!!


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Evangelist on April 15, 2005, 02:11:48 PM
Sounds like he (she) is associated with the House of YisraEL, also called the House of Yah.

Questionable.


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: felix102 on April 15, 2005, 08:01:32 PM
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UNITY in HIM as the ONE LORD!

UNITY against whatever IMAGINATIONS have DIVIDED mankind in the VANITY of CONFUSION!    UNITY against
whatever MISconstrusions have wrought the BONDAGE
of mankind unto any LESSER CONSCIENCE than that
of YAH HIMSELF!

Imaginations...today these are doctrines. Protestants, Catholicism, Mormonism etc. All these things are only man's idea. This has thrown the Church into confusion...there are so many denominations that people ask "Which one is right?". This is the same trap that Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism fell into. What Joseph Smith thought was that there must yet be another doctrine that is the true one. The problem was that there shouldnt be one in the first place!!

It is by the Spirit of Truth which guides us into all truths!!

As scripture says "make my joy complete by being likeminded, having the same love, being one in spirit and purpose." (phil 2:2)

What we need to do is renew our mind and fill it with the mind of Christ. This is how everyone would be likeminded.

Romans 1:21
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.


A cause for seperation and disunity among men is because men choose to follow their own reasonings or imaginations and not God. Do not be strengthed into our minds!!!

God tells us to be strengthed into our spirit! Our inner man.

Ephesians 3:16-19
16That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

17That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

18May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

19And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.



I would like to go over some more of what Zad wrote later.


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 16, 2005, 01:54:34 PM
To Ollie,

What I am saying Ollie, is that the NAME of the MESSIAH was
in fact YESHUA!    He was NEVER ever called JESUS CHRIST
any time during his lifetime on earth.    No apostle knew Him
by that name!    

This sir, is an undoubtable fact.

There were reasons why the Roman Empire later decided to
call Yeshua by the name "Iesous" or "Iesos".  

The believers at Antioch were called "Koretsyanea" in the
original language. (Acts 11:26)    And this title was agreed
upon by the APOSTLES as well!    There is a reason WHY
Greco-Roman IMPERIALIST also for sake of maintaining business as usual agendas also framed the GREEK title
"CHRIST".. the GREEK rendering for an ARAMAIC title,
that has lost much in the polytheist translation.

How can one who says he is CHRISTIAN by the ONE
ANNOINTING of the ONE HOLY SPIRIT continue to abide
is so many diverse POLLUTIONS having no desire for
PUREST PERFECT DISCRETION?

MESSIAH said, "It is NOT everyone that cries out to Me
as LORD of LORDS that enters the Kingdom of Heaven,
but he who DISCERNS and DOES the WILL of MY FATHER
YAH which is in HEAVEN, even the MOST HIGH!

Consider.   Is what is being done in the churches today for
all its convolution and impurity indeed the will of the ONE
LORD and FATHER?

Messiah also said, "WHY do you call ME LORD of LORDS and
do not do what I ... say?   WHY do you rather obey the
traditions of an other?

WHY is it that men feel they have a right to change that which YAH has called His  SON?   Does not YAH have the
RIGHT to be respected according to HIS WORD?

Since YAH called HIS Son after the name YESHUA, after
the Hebrew root word "YASHA" meaning SALVATION or
SAVIOR .. how is it that MEN have declared a title which
among the Greeks insinuated salvation through an other
name?

The EASTER, X-MAS and SUNday rituals to say the least are also imaginations of men who worshipped foreign god from pre-Christian times.  These are the imaginings of man!
(Isaiah 29:8-16>-30:15)

What I am saying sir, and this is a fact.   The name "Jesus"
did not have its origins from the mind nor conceits of YAH!
The FATHER called HIS Son YESHUA and there was no need
to CHANGE it!   What YESHUA means in the original language is who the MESSIAH truly is.    The name YESHUA means
that the WAYS and THOUGHTS of YAH ALONE are HOLY unto SALVATION!    Men however have thought otherwise
seeking to save themselves by collaboration in their own
thoughts being unwilling to realize how much men need to HEAR directly from the LORD YAH HIMSELF!  

All who call upon the NAME of the LORD having first HEARD from HIM; knowng that in JERUSALEM from whence the LAW
of the LORD shall flow .. shall be delivered! (Romans 10 ..
Joel 2:32 - 3rd chapter)

FAITH comes not by hearing an unsure word from MAN which can be left subject to MISimagination and MISinterpretations
of the CARNAL MIND, but by hearing and UNDERSTANDING a WORD INSPIRED to be UNDERSTOOD upon the MIND and HEART rightly as it is in HEARING from YAH HIMSELF!

Therefore what I am saying to you is that the name "Jesus",
let alone the many differing ideas which have intruded against
the FAITH to DIVIDE the UNDERSTANDING of the peoples, .. is
all the result of the confused IMAGINATIONS of MAN who have refused the full PURGING of the HOLY SPIRIT, the
THOUGHTS of YAH.  

MATTHEW 7 declared unto the MANY who never found nor
walked the TRUE PATH, they will find they NEVER KNEW HIM!

With the imaginations of their own minds and lips have they called upon Me, but according to the THOUGHTS, PRECEPTS,
DOCTRINES and VAIN COMMANDMENTS of MEN!   All because
they would not realize what it means when I said I have the KEYS of DAVID and will sit upon DAVID'S THRONE!

They have not understood because they stood against the LAW I gave unto My Beloveds of MOUNT ZION! (Isaiah 29:8-16 .. Matthew 15:6-9)

May your heart be blessed to understand the TRUTH!

Mr Bronzesnake, indeed it is true that some have not the heart for the most precious words.   For some of the biggest lies have been told to hide the greatest truths.

Indeed the LORD has spoken to me declaring, these words HE has given me,are but for the most HUMBLE soul.    

Messiah once also praying for the people in His rebuke
also was stopped in midst of his prayerful pleadings.   For there are some souls just too much trouble to try to help in the hardness of their hearts.   They would only take a blessing and in the prideful ambition of their own hearts pervert the precious word.  Such as these would only
continually be a burden in the midst those who otherwise would become wise.   In HIS WISDOM YAH has chosen to
not to open their eyes despite even the most fervent prayer
of even HIS BELOVED SON!   Be wise and understand!

Therefore Messiah STOPPED and ANSWERED the FATHER....
 in this wise, ....

"I THANK THEE O MY FATHER, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH THAT THOU HAS HID THESE THINGS FROM THE SO CALLED WISE and MEN who CLAIM to have UNDERSTANDING and have REVEALED them to BABES!   O MY FATHER for such was the WISDOM of THY WILL!"

YAH is ever concerned for the good of HIS people who HEAR
from HIM to LOVE, OBEY, UNDERSTAND and MAINTAIN HIS
THOUGHTS!   I continue to pray for those whose hearts are found worthy.  (John 17 ... I make NO REQUEST for the double-minded of unscrupulous worldly intentions (James) (Jude).. but for those YAH has given ME!"

May the hearts of the TRUE CHILDREN be RESTORED unto the SAME SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING of the FATHERS!

It is always wise to hear the blessing of the Lord!
(Hebrews 10:26-31)

I pray for a divided world that it be redeemed unto the ONE MIND of the ONE LORD.   I have called His name, YAH and HIS SON, YESHUA!

Zaddikimyah




Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: nChrist on April 16, 2005, 05:28:35 PM
Zaddikimyah,

We speak English here, and we use English translations of the Holy Bible.

Further, this is a Christian forum, and we believe firmly:

Almighty God is a Holy Trinity: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit, and the Three are ONE!

God was made manifest in the flesh, was born of a virgin, and came as a Light to the World to save men from the curse of sin and death. His name was JESUS CHRIST, and HE was crucified on a Cross as a perfect sacrifice for sin. This sacrifice was and is the ultimate proof of God's Love and Grace. God offers Salvation as a GIFT to all who will have faith and believe that Jesus Christ was and is who HE said he was and died on the CROSS for them.

Jesus Christ arose from the dead on the third day and ascended back to Heaven. We serve a Living Saviour who is and always has been ALMIGHTY GOD! When we have faith and accept Him as Lord and Saviour, we are baptized with the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit comes into us and lives in our hearts. Our hearts are sealed by the Holy Spirit, and we are set apart as purchased possessions of Jesus. JESUS CHRIST paid for us with His blood on the Cross, and no power can pluck us from His mighty hand.  We become members of a church not made with human hands, the church which is THE BODY OF CHRIST.

Jesus Christ was NOT created because HE is the CREATOR!

Jesus Christ was NOT just a man or a prophet, rather ALMIGHTY GOD MADE MANIFEST IN THE FLESH.

We live under the Gospel of the Grace of God. JESUS CHRIST AND THE CROSS is the focus and TRUTH that we live under and by.
___________________________

The preaching of other religions is not permitted on Christians Unite, plain and simple. The Gospel of the Grace of God is also plain and simple, simple enough for a child to understand. There is no need or requirement to speak Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, or other languages to be saved or to worship GOD.

I firmly believe that Almighty God made HIS WORD available in many languages for the whole world to study. The same is true for pastors and teachers who speak the language of the hearers.

____________________________

In conclusion, Zaddikimyah, I will repeat that other religions will not be taught on Christians Unite. We have many sweet and dedicated Christians on Christians Unite, and we all share The Ultimate Truth in common: Jesus Christ - Almighty God, as Lord and Saviour forever! If you wish to teach something different, it won't be here on Christians Unite.

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Romans 10:9-10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Hebrews 12:2  Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Galatians 4:4-7  But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

1Corinthians 1:18  For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Philippians 1:27-29  Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel; And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God. For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Titus 2:11-14  For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Colossians 2:8-10  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:




Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Bronzesnake on April 16, 2005, 07:27:57 PM
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What I am saying Ollie, is that the NAME of the MESSIAH was
in fact YESHUA!    He was NEVER ever called JESUS CHRIST
any time during his lifetime on earth.    No apostle knew Him
by that name!    

This sir, is an undoubtable fact.

 You really show your ignorance with statements such as this.

When I was a child my first name was Jack (my parents legally changed it to John) I have some french Canadian friends and they call me Jacque - should I ignore them because they call me by my name in their language? Am I not a real person to them?

You are seriously confused and ill informed as to the real historical facts of the Bible. "This sir, is an undoubtable fact."  :D

Bronzesnake




Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: JudgeNot on April 16, 2005, 09:30:38 PM
If God knows every sparrow that falls from the air and every hair on our heads, He certainly knows when we are talking to Him.
 :)


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: ollie on April 16, 2005, 09:54:57 PM
To Ollie,

What I am saying Ollie, is that the NAME of the MESSIAH was
in fact YESHUA!    He was NEVER ever called JESUS CHRIST
any time during his lifetime on earth.    No apostle knew Him
by that name!    

This sir, is an undoubtable fact.
The fact is He is our Redeemer, the Son of God, the Saviour, etc. The translations of His name in other languages changes none of that. One comes to Him out of love and obedience, not because of a proper name. Even though all who call upon the authority of that name will be saved.

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There were reasons why the Roman Empire later decided to call Yeshua by the name "Iesous" or "Iesos".
Is it related to this?

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"Strong's Number: 2424
Transliterated: Iesous
Phonetic: ee-ay-sooce'

Text:  of Hebrew origin [3091]; Jesus (i.e. Jehoshua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites: -- Jesus."

Or this?


 
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"Strong's Number: 3091
Transliterated: Yhowshuwa`
Phonetic: yeh-ho-shoo'-ah

Text:  or Yhowshu3a {yeh-ho-shoo'-ah}; from 3068 and 3467; Jehovah-saved; Jehoshua (i.e. Joshua), the Jewish leader: -Jehoshua, Jehoshuah, Joshua. Compare 1954, 3442.





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The believers at Antioch were called "Koretsyanea" in the
original language. (Acts 11:26)    And this title was agreed
upon by the APOSTLES as well!    There is a reason WHY
Greco-Roman IMPERIALIST also for sake of maintaining business as usual agendas also framed the GREEK title
"CHRIST".. the GREEK rendering for an ARAMAIC title,
that has lost much in the polytheist translation.
Which original language of what? The greek rendering meaning "the Annointed One", the "messiah'. What is the problem and how will it change anyones redemption to God?

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"Strong's Number: 5547
Transliterated: Christos
Phonetic: khris-tos'

Text:  from 5548; anointed, i.e. the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: --Christ."





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How can one who says he is CHRISTIAN by the ONE
ANNOINTING of the ONE HOLY SPIRIT continue to abide
is so many diverse POLLUTIONS having no desire for
PUREST PERFECT DISCRETION?
Satan. I would not make such a judgement that no one desires purest perfectness. And you know it is obtained through the very one we have been discussing, Jesus the Christ. One must be careful in his judgement of others lest one be judged with the same judgements meted out.

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MESSIAH said, "It is NOT everyone that cries out to Me
as LORD of LORDS that enters the Kingdom of Heaven,
but he who DISCERNS and DOES the WILL of MY FATHER
YAH which is in HEAVEN, even the MOST HIGH!
Me thinks you have added "Yah" and Paul says speaking in an unknown tongue is to no ones benefit if there is no understanding or an interpreter to make the tongue spoken intelligible.
However I know this verse and agree except for Yah as Yah has no intelligible meaning relating to Jehovah for me.

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Consider.   Is what is being done in the churches today for
all its convolution and impurity indeed the will of the ONE
LORD and FATHER?
No. Have you considered the church that Christ is building?

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Messiah also said, "WHY do you call ME LORD of LORDS and
do not do what I ... say?   WHY do you rather obey the
traditions of an other?
Again that old devious serpent, Satan, the devil.

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WHY is it that men feel they have a right to change that which YAH has called His  SON?   Does not YAH have the
RIGHT to be respected according to HIS WORD?
No, Jehovah God, the Father does.

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Since YAH called HIS Son after the name YESHUA, after
the Hebrew root word "YASHA" meaning SALVATION or
SAVIOR .. how is it that MEN have declared a title which
among the Greeks insinuated salvation through an other
name?
Salvation is through faith in the Son of God. Jesus is not a title. Christ is the title if you need a title. It means 'the annointed one of God, the Messiah."

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The EASTER, X-MAS and SUNday rituals to say the least are also imaginations of men who worshipped foreign god from pre-Christian times.  These are the imaginings of man!
(Isaiah 29:8-16>-30:15)
Easter, Christmas and the name of a day of the week Sunday are the imaginings/creations/additions of men. However the first day of the week meant something else to first century Christians as it should today. Check out "the first day of the week" in your Bible.

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What I am saying sir, and this is a fact.   The name "Jesus"
did not have its origins from the mind nor conceits of YAH!
The FATHER called HIS Son YESHUA and there was no need
to CHANGE it!   What YESHUA means in the original language is who the MESSIAH truly is.    The name YESHUA means
that the WAYS and THOUGHTS of YAH ALONE are HOLY unto SALVATION!    Men however have thought otherwise
seeking to save themselves by collaboration in their own
thoughts being unwilling to realize how much men need to HEAR directly from the LORD YAH HIMSELF!
We know HIm as Jesus Christ, the Son of God, The source of our redemption back to God, our Sanctifier, our Saviour, the Head of His Body, the church.  

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All who call upon the NAME of the LORD having first HEARD from HIM; knowng that in JERUSALEM from whence the LAW
of the LORD shall flow .. shall be delivered! (Romans 10 ..
Joel 2:32 - 3rd chapter)
The law has been fulfilled in Jesus Christ.

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FAITH comes not by hearing an unsure word from MAN which can be left subject to MISimagination and MISinterpretations
of the CARNAL MIND, but by hearing and UNDERSTANDING a WORD INSPIRED to be UNDERSTOOD upon the MIND and HEART rightly as it is in HEARING from YAH HIMSELF!

Romans 10:13.  'For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
 14.  How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
 15.  And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
 16.  But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
 17.  So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
 18.  But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world."


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Therefore what I am saying to you is that the name "Jesus",
let alone the many differing ideas which have intruded against
the FAITH to DIVIDE the UNDERSTANDING of the peoples, .. is
all the result of the confused IMAGINATIONS of MAN who have refused the full PURGING of the HOLY SPIRIT, the
THOUGHTS of YAH.
I urge you to consider the purgings of the Holy Spirit by listening to what the Spirit is saying to us. There is no salvation in any other name.  

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MATTHEW 7 declared unto the MANY who never found nor
walked the TRUE PATH, they will find they NEVER KNEW HIM!

With the imaginations of their own minds and lips have they called upon Me, but according to the THOUGHTS, PRECEPTS,
DOCTRINES and VAIN COMMANDMENTS of MEN!   All because
they would not realize what it means when I said I have the KEYS of DAVID and will sit upon DAVID'S THRONE!
Take heed and consider the words of our Lord as written by Matthew.

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They have not understood because they stood against the LAW I gave unto My Beloveds of MOUNT ZION! (Isaiah 29:8-16 .. Matthew 15:6-9)
The law is fulfilled.

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ay your heart be blessed to understand the TRUTH!
Thank you so very much for this kind thought. May you also know the greater love of God that He gave through His Son.

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Zaddikimyah

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The rest of this post seemed addressed to Bronzesnake. So I will not respond to it.

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ollie


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: JudgeNot on April 16, 2005, 10:19:06 PM
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The law is fulfilled.
That, Ollie, is the most profound and important fact in all eternity - bar none!  Every sermon in every church on every Sunday is, in one way or another, tied to that fact.
Thank you and AMEN!
JudgeNot


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Soldier4Christ on April 17, 2005, 12:06:46 AM
Zaddikim "The Righteous Ones, the Most Perfect," the name of a splinter cult of ultra-radical Jews whose beliefs and practices are recorded in the Dead Sea Scrolls. From the Hebrew word Tzaddik, "righteous." Pronounced ZAD-dee-KEEM.


Zaddikimyah means "The Most Righteous Ones of Yah".


Zad, do you believe that you are more righteous than other people?


Rom 3:10  As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:



Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Bronzesnake on April 17, 2005, 12:21:11 AM
Zaddikimyah, you are a self professed prophet, and a false one at that. You haven't the slightest clue as to the Word of God - you have your own "religion" it is not Christianity - it isn't even Judaism - it's a self professed false religion and a lie of satan. I rebuke you in the Holy name of Jesus.

Your mad ramblings are no longer welcomed here.

Moderator.


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: felix102 on April 17, 2005, 02:30:44 AM
I dont think yall should be so hard on Zad. Just different languages...
Yahweh was translated as Jehovah in the KJV. However the 'weh' at the end of Yahweh isnt known for sure. So Yah is probably the most accurate.

Yeshua was the name of Jesus in it's orginal word.

However, Zad...there is no difference. We call upon the same Lord. You'll have to explain things in English.

I think that Zad was saying that because some of you here were confused about what he was saying "Mosheh, Yah, Yeshua" And sort of fired away at him. But these refer to the people we know: Moses, God, and Jesus. I am sure Zad was saying this in his defense but I know for sure that calling on the Lord Jesus is calling to the same person: our Lord and Savior, Messiah.

Brothers and Sisters we all make mistakes. Be not so quick to judge lest you be judged in the same manner.


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: felix102 on April 17, 2005, 02:48:27 AM
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What I am saying sir, and this is a fact.  The name "Jesus"
did not have its origins from the mind nor conceits of YAH!
The FATHER called HIS Son YESHUA and there was no need
to CHANGE it!  What YESHUA means in the original language is who the MESSIAH truly is.    The name YESHUA means
that the WAYS and THOUGHTS of YAH ALONE are HOLY unto SALVATION!    Men however have thought otherwise
seeking to save themselves by collaboration in their own
thoughts being unwilling to realize how much men need to HEAR directly from the LORD YAH HIMSELF!

Hey brother, I believe that calling on the Lord Jesus is no different than Yeshua. Brother, I think that you were just saying that in spite of what others were saying to you. Is this right?

Other than that, I agree with the words spoken here.


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 17, 2005, 06:34:39 AM
Messiah identified Himself as the WILL of HIS FATHER!
(Matthew 7:13-28)    the Messiah is not the amalgam
of any man or men's presumptuous illusions!   He is AS
HE IS!    Not as MEN flatter themselve to imagine.   If
HE does not reveal Himself to you, you simply do not
know Him!   For all one's reading of the scriptures, the
bible becomes alive only to those elect unto divine
understanding who are willing to truly obey. (Isaiah 29-30)

This WILL is the CONSCIENCE, the PLAN, the WORD
and the LAW of the FATHER.  Anyone who believes the
WILL and SALVATION of YESHUA to be anything else is blasphemously and drastically mistaken.   If any man
preaches any other Yeshua to believe that anything
other than the FATHER'S WILL and LAW shall govern
unto RECONCILED PEACE in this world, that man is
both blasphemously and drastically mistaken and as
such remains under the CURSE that leads to WRATH!

Realize that PAUL did not speak against the LAW of YAH,
but rather the MISadministration of scriptures.

It is the FALSE SON who will not hear to understand the
LAW of the LORD!   And this my friend is an admonishment
of what is LATTER DAY PROPHECY! (Isaiah 30)   Far too
many say they trust in the LORD, but will find out they
have trusted not in the counsel of YAH, but the precepts
of EGYPT to their stagnance in CONFUSION!

The LORDSHIP of YESHUA in YAH casts down all false
imaginations, therefore it casts down the already extant
MISrule of MEN; not the ETERNAL and UNCHANGING LAW of YAH!

The pagans called their rulers gods.   They therefore had
no discerning word to relate the difference between Divine
law and the law of man.    

What LAW had the ROMAN PAGANS been under?   What LAW
did MESSIAH come that the HEATHEN be REDEEMED from?

Jewish Sanhedrin in the day of Messiah was one enforced upon the people and appointed under subjugation of ROME!

It is an affair of the FLESH that must be overcome.  The
FLESH is errant in that with or without the written word,
the carnal mind does NOT perceive the THOUGHTS of YAH!
All such carnality is MISrule that must be overcome.   It is
full well the power of the HOLY SPIRIT to expose the INjustice of every false hegemony that has separated
mankind from his DIVINE purpose.

MESSIAH will NOT judge according to any of the standards
of men apparent in this world!  Messiah shall BRING to the
nations a sense of TRUE JUSTICE.    Knowing this, WHY is
it that men continue to trust in the systems they see today?
(Isaiah 11)

The word for WICKED is LAWLESS.   There is NO PEACE
unto the lawLESS says MY YAH! (Isaiah 48-49 & cn.57)

Pray that you do not understand too late.   To justify himself and the misdeeds of the world of deviate social orientations
around him, man is victimized by his own false contentions.
Rather than see his own deviations and lack of knowledge
of the truth, man has preferred to believe that it is YAH
who has changed.   This man has believed to his own
curse and destruction.

A world that does not to this day understand has missed the point.  PAUL never preached the putting away of DIVINE LAW.

2Peter 3:15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother PAUL also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.
16  He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters.  IN HIS LETTERS THERE ARE SOME THINGS HARD TO UNDERSTAND, WHICH IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, AS THEY DO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
17  Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of LAWLESS men and fall from your secure position.
18  But grow in the grace and knowledge/ full discretion ..  of our Lord and Savior Yeshua ha Maschiah. To him be GLORY both now and forever! Amen.
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The GRACE of YAH is the GIFT of HIS DISCRETION!   The GIFT of YAH extols what is HOLY, not any multitude of misperceptions that rule over the minds of unenlightened men.

Not under the LAW but under GRACE actually means no longer
blinded by the MISrule of MEN due to enlightenment of the
HOLY SPIRIT which teaches the LAW of YAH upon the heart.
YAH has grown weary of the MISadministration of MAN,
"Therefore in the RESTORATION of ISRAEL the promise of
a soon to be COVENANT RESTORED declares "YAH HIMSELF
will TEACH HIS LAW (perfectly) upon the MINDS and the
HEARTS .. then shall men be redeemed from the FAULT of
the PASTORS and PRIESTS!    Then shall men be REDEEMED
truly as the HOLY PEOPLE of YAH!  (Jeremiah 30-31)

Messiah said, THINK NOT that I have come to destroy
the LAW nor the PROPHETS!  ...  Though His people be
scattered to the four corners of the earth, Till all FALSE
power ruling ON HIGH over this earth is no more and the
KINGDOM of YAH in TRUTH is manifest upon this earth,
let no man deceive you to think/ presume even the
smallest letter of DIVINE LAW is cast away unto ALL
shall be MADE FULLY MANIFEST!  (Matthew 5:16-20)

Since the LEADERS were the ones at FAULT in their
administration, teaching and understanding, what
Messiah declared is reflective of ISAIAH 28.   One's
sense of righteousness MUST exceed that of those
who MISteach the HOLY WORD, lest the BLIND lead
the BLIND and BOTH fall into the pit. (Isaiah 24)T

A whole world again is confused! (Isaiah 41:28-42:25)
It is simply NOT CHRIST-LIKE that anyone should be
duped by the principalities and powers to believe that
DIVINE LAW is put away by the SPIRIT of MESSIAH
who TRUSTED in the WISDOM of HIS FATHER!

The principalities and powers have been collective in
their conspiracy to take men into bondage to miscreant
rule against the ONE RULE and AUTHORITY given of YAH
unto MESSIAH HIMSELF! (Psalm 2) (Matthew 28:18-20)

YESHUA nor YAH needs anyone to MISrepresent HIM.
Yet MISrepresentation is the only power anyone has
till he has learned the PURE and PERFECT TRUTH of
what is DIVINE COVENANT WILL.    This is what is
revealed by the GIFT of the HOLY SPIRIT!   Yet most
have little idea of just how much they are deceived
because they have trusted in princes, pastors. priests
and popes who have never yeilded to discern beyond
the false foundations of miscreant realization.

What frightens many is the realization that none can
deliver himself from his own imaginations nor deceitful
schemes of this world by his own conceits or seeming intelligence.   Such deliverance unto right discretion
comes only by the GIFT of YAH! (Ephesians 2)

Yet knowing that it is the will of YAH that those who
transcend carnality to LOVE the LAW of the LORD shall
surely attain to the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the LAW is a
reason not to be in FEAR.   It is FAITH in the LOVE of
YAH and FAITH in HIS PLAN that causes one to realize
that the only chance at PEACE is PERFECT conformity
to DIVINE WILL and LAW!   This is the overcoming of
the WILL of the FLESH!

MESSIAH did NOT give HIS life for men to trust in any
man's divisive MISimaginations, but that men have
opportunity to perceve the TRUTH that transcends
the CURSES of uncertainty and proud presumptuous
mere OPINION.   He gave His LIFE that men discern
PURE TRUTH.  This is the vehicle that sets men
FREE beyond the entrapments of ILLUSION!

He who will not UNDERSTAND to BELIEVE the TRUTH
will NEVER be FORGIVEN!  

I speak the truth!  

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Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Zaddikimyah on April 17, 2005, 06:36:24 AM
(Isa 50:4 KJV)  The Lord GOD hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned.

(Isa 50:5 KJV)  The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear, and I was not rebellious, neither turned away back.

(Isa 50:6 KJV)  I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.

(Isa 50:7 KJV)  For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.

(Isa 50:8 KJV)  He is near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me.

(Isa 50:9 KJV)  Behold, the Lord GOD will help me; who is he that shall condemn me? lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up.

(Isa 50:10 KJV)  Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in Him who is
called by
the NAME OF THE LORD, and stay upon His God.

(Isa 50:11 KJV)  Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.

(Isa 51:1 KJV)  Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.

(Isa 51:2 KJV)  Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him.

(Isa 51:3 KJV)  For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

(Isa 51:4 KJV)  Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a LAW shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.

Realize it is just as true today as it was 2000 years ago.
Most reject the truth of the ONE LORD because they have
been BLINDED by the doctines which upon the folly of many
who have been treacherously FALSE against the rule of YAH!

Pray that you do not understand too late.   To justify himself and the misdeeds of the world of deviate social orientations
around him, man is victimized by his own false contentions.
Rather than see his own deviations and lack of knowledge
of the truth, man has preferred to believe that it is YAH
who has changed.   This man has believed choosing to
trust in false leaders who refuse to offer the ONE LORD
HIS due TITHE of a PEOPLE restored in righteousness!  MAN has given himself to trust in ROBBERS in PRIESTLY CLOAKS who ROB against both YAH and MAN and they have surely DEFRAUDED WHOLE NATIONS to stand against the TRUTH!   This mankind has done to his own curse and destruction.

WOE unto BABYLON!   She shall be taken unto defeat!  For she did not know she stood up against the LORD!   She thought she prophecied by YAH, but found that she had prophecied by BA'AL! (Jeremiah 50) (Isaiah 57)

Let him who is wise understand.   He who denies the
message of truth, will be denied before My Father!  
He will be put to shame before all who have been
vessel messengers of the true word of the ONE LIVING
and ETERNAL YAH!

A word to the wise is sufficient.   Mr BRONZE SNAKE,
you who have truly revealed your colors, is this word
sufficient for you.    Be careful of what you think and
do.   The eyes of YAH are upon you NOW!    

Messiah said, FORGIVE them FATHER!   Do not forsake
them and show them the error of their ways lest they
remain in error and departed from YAH and subject to
WRATH forever  

A word to the wise is sufficient only unto those YAH
finds worthy to be empowered with sure understanding.    

Those ELECT unto HIS GRACE attain to understanding,
the REST are DULLED in their MINDS for allowing the
MISdevices/ MISworkings of their carnal MISintelligence
to keep them astray.

Keep in mind that YAH bears the burden of those who reverently strive to make his load lightest.   This he does
for sake of the PEACE of HIS PEOPLE!  Yet some people
prove themselves not even worth the time.   These are
they who offer the KNOWLEDGE of YAH are so PRIDEFUL
that even the LORD they refuse to allow to tell them anything.  

A word to the wise is sufficient only unto those YAH
finds worthy to be empowered with sure understanding.
It is time to cast aside the cloud of so many false
witnesses and false testimonies. (Hebrews 12)   He who
will not hearken to YAH shall NEVER know the GRACE
of HIS TRUTH in UNDERSTANDING!

You may say you limit me, but the fact my dear sir is that
I could nevermore be stagnated by any conscience less than
that which YAH has revealed.   Your world is the one that is
small, not mine.



It has been a long tiime that this world has not heard the
true words of the son of man.   It is because of this that
His true meanings are not discerned today! (Isaiah 57:11-14)
(Luke 17:22) (Amos 8:11)

Since the slaughter of the holy ones. the saints who observed the holy covenant knowing righteousness of
Messiah, as long as men have trusted in lies, this world
has remained subject to its separation from the fullness
of YAH in HIS salvation.   No man could ever return unto
YAH after the ordinances seeming right unto men.

I pray this word be sufficient unto you though it is a
certainty that arnal mind has not the spiritual capacity
to discern the righteousness of YAH.

Consider what you do.   Do you really believe that not hearing these words from me would be your blessing?
Or perhaps consideration is a thing beyond you.  

Whether you understand it or are willing to accept it or not, it is you that are on my time now.   Lest the LORD dictate
to me differently, YOU will not hear again from me till you
are willing to say, BLESSED is HE who spoke to me in the NAME of the ONE LORD!

With you, my salutations are done.  I wipe the dust from my
feet.   As a chosen watchman I have removed your blood
from my head and lest you become wise unto repentance. because you continue in your sins despite the fact that
knowledge was offered unto you, you will bear the blood
you shed.  

He who is not worthy unto wisdom, nor can he be wise
who has not enough LOVE in his heart to receive for sake
of his brother!   He who accounts the multitude of
contradictions that is the trust of men as wiser than
the LAW of the ONE YAH, is indeed misled by folly.  He
errs in judgment because he is blinded by a deceiver!
(John 8:31-36) (Isaiah 56-60)

Carnal mind remains carnally iaccursed in that it does not discern the righteousness of YAH.  

Zaddikimyah.


Title: Re:MESSIAH'S LAST PETITIONS FOR UNITY!
Post by: Bronzesnake on April 17, 2005, 11:26:02 AM
I dont think yall should be so hard on Zad. Just different languages...
Yahweh was translated as Jehovah in the KJV. However the 'weh' at the end of Yahweh isnt known for sure. So Yah is probably the most accurate.

Yeshua was the name of Jesus in it's orginal word.

However, Zad...there is no difference. We call upon the same Lord. You'll have to explain things in English.

I think that Zad was saying that because some of you here were confused about what he was saying "Mosheh, Yah, Yeshua" And sort of fired away at him. But these refer to the people we know: Moses, God, and Jesus. I am sure Zad was saying this in his defense but I know for sure that calling on the Lord Jesus is calling to the same person: our Lord and Savior, Messiah.

Brothers and Sisters we all make mistakes. Be not so quick to judge lest you be judged in the same manner.

He said Jesus was satan. That's evil in any language. Our friend also professes to be a prophet.

 Bronzesnake