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Anyone? *Just curious.........False teacher or prophet?

The Bible implies Jesus will return in the clouds and the whole world will see Him and acknowledge He is Lord of all.  Even the unsaved will acknowledge Jesus.

Benny Hinn says Jesus will return and be on stage with him.

Hmmm.  Maybe I need to re-read some scripture - I must have missed the part where it is prophesied that Jesus will appear with Benny Hinn...

Among other things....Benny likes to commune with Kathryn Kuhlman (dead) and Aimee Semple Macpherson (also dead) at their graves...says it gives him more anointing.

He also says that God is made up of a soul, a spirit and a body....and so is Jesus, and so is the Holy Spirit....which makes nine, not three.

He also said that his father was mayor of a small town in Israel....turns out he was just a city hall clerk.

He also told the world back in '94 that God told him that he would wipe out the homosexual community by fire in '95.

He also said:
"Now hear this I'm prophesying this Jesus Christ the son of God is about to appear physically in some churches and some meetings and to many of His people. For one reason to tell you He's about to show up. So wake up Jesus is coming saints. You have held back from the Lord in the past don't you dare do it now. The day will come you will stand before Him and give an answer. How dare we not give to God?  How dare we hold back?  Who do we think He is -- some neighbor of ours? He's God Almighty -- we fear the Lord God of hosts. He's not some man -- He's God. If Jesus tonight appeared on this platform here and looked through this camera and said to you I need your offerings so I can touch the world, would you give Him? Of course. Well I've got news for you.  He's saying it, He's saying it, He's saying it through his servants, He's saying it through his Word He's saying it. The Bible clearly states "how shall they go unless they be sent?" And God is speaking to you so obey him. Some of you need to give large sums tonight.  Don't you give those small sums if you have the large sums. Many of you have those small sums.  The best you can give is all God wants from you. The best you can give is all expects of ya. But some of you watching right now have money in the bank your gonna leave it behind, You may even lose it unless you obey God tonight. Give to God tonight.  God is speaking to you now.  Do you know by holding back from God you're keeping God's blessings from your family by holding back from the Lord?  You're saying "No, Lord, I don't want you presence in my home." And when you call tell the Lord "I'm sowing tonight because I believe what this man is saying on TV. I believe what Benny Hinn is saying is what I need to hear."
"This is Your Day" - Television broadcast
03-29-00 From 700 Club Studios, Virginia Beach, Va.[/i

And then there was:
Hinn: "I’m gonna show you the power of God on young people, I know you may have seen this before, maybe you haven’t - if you have, you’ll get blessed all over again. I’m in Pheonix Arizona this Thursday and Friday. What you’re about to see is gonna happen there, so you in Pheonix make sure you show up for that crusade. Now, what you’re gonna see happens usually at the last night at the end of the service for the young people. It’s gonna be a powerful crusade, great, great things. Let me tell you something. The Holy Spirit has spoken, He told me He is about to show up. Oh, I gotta tell you this just before we go. I had a word of prophecy from Ruth Heflin, you know who Ruth Heflin is? Ruth prophesied over me back in the seventies. Everything she said has happened. She just sent me a word through my wife and said: The Lord spoke to her audibly and said, That He is going to appear physically in one of our crusades in the next few months. Yeah, She... I’m telling ya,.. she said, the Lord spoke to her audibly and said, tell Benny I’m going to appear physically on the platform in his meetings. Lord, do it in Phenox Arizona in the name of Jesus! And in Kenya too, Lord, please, Lord, in fact, do it in every crusade. In Jesus’ name."

And:
Benny Hinn:" But here's first what I see for TBN. You're going to have people raised from the dead watching this network. You're going to have people raised from the dead watching TBN. Programs -- just plain programs -- programs that haven't done much when it comes to supernatural manifestations -- teaching programs. It's not going to be a Benny Hinn saying "Stretch your hands." It's going to be your average teaching program, your normal Christian program that's blessing the church. There's going to be such power on these programs people will be raised from the dead worldwide. I'm telling you, I see this in the Spirit. It's going to be so awesome. Jesus I give you praise for this -- that people around the world -- maybe not so much in America -- people around the world who will lose loved ones, will say to undertakers, "Not yet. I want to take my dead loved one and place him in front of that TV set for 24 hours."

To which Paul Crouch screamed:  "Benny Hinn! Jesus!"

Oh my...I have never been fond of the guy, but I never knew he said all THAT.  He converses with the DEAD??? And nobody has said anything about that? It is against necromancers in the bible...

I read one of his first books, back before Id ever seen him on TV.  It was a WONDERFUL book. But then I saw him on TV and the hairs on the back of my neck stood up... something odd about him. But as a Christian I can not say weather he is really in the Holy Spirit or not. I do not know. But if its true that he speaks to the dead...my suspicions are right.

Dawn

Evangelist, thank you for that insight. I had heard some of those things from people and to see them written down as from his own accord, thats pretty sick.... >:(

Even worse is that hair piece.

There's a whole lot more comments than just those....enough to fill up a book, and everyone of them garbage.....but they sound good to the average member of the Kingdumb.....besides, they help sell books and get pledges for TV.

Yes, that hairpiece is absolutely awful. As you can see by the below picture, when hair is real and done properly, it looks right.  But since Hinn saw me on TBN before he became popular, he decided to copy it.  As soon as I saw him in it, I changed my style.  ;D
(http://www.john812.com/img/hinnhair.gif)

I dont know much about Benny Hinn but I am interested in knowing who He is. So far -from what has been said- there is not enough to conclude whether He is a false teacher or prophet.

There is a difference between speaking and prophesizing. Although a prophet has a higher responsibility, they are still human. Why do people think that prophets can only speak the truth and know everything from the time they were called to the time they die? Why do people expect them to be perfect. Only Jesus was perfect.

Prophecies only come from God. A prophet cannot conjure one up in his own mind. But prophets still have a mind of their own and they can still make a mistake in their speaking and teaching. The only thing that cannot be mistaken is their prophecy which is from God. However, the Holy Spirit is still subject to their spirit. So they do control it. But you have to know that they can make mistakes; not the prophecy itself, but in their speaking. However, the prophecy itself should be clear and unmistaken. If they claim something is a prophecy and that something is not true (or does not occur) than that is a false prophecy and consequently that man is a false prophet.


Evangelist. Appreciate the info. It seems that there was error in his speaking and teaching but you didnt tell us whether his prophecies were true or false.

Benny Hinn himself has said many times "I'm prophesying ...." And these prophecies that he has given have not come true on the dates that he said they would. The quote that Evangelist gave above was from Hinn's own mouth in regards to a messiah (Jesus Christ) coming to us physically before the second coming.

The following is a portion of a transcript from the 29 Mar 2000 TBN broadcast.

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Benny Hinn: "I know deep in my soul something supernatural is going to happen in Nairobi, Kenya. I feel that I may very well come back. And you and Jan are coming - Paul and Jan are coming to Nairobi with me, but Paul we may very well come back with footage of Jesus on the platform. You know that the Lord appeared in Romania recently and there's a video of it, where the Lord appeared in the back of a church and you see him on video walking down the aisle. Yea. Paul do you remember when I came on TBN years ago; I showed you a clip of the Lord appearing in our church in Orlando on the balcony on the wall. Yea, you remember that?"

Paul Crouch: "Yea, very well, I saw it."

Benny Hinn: "That was eighty something, eighty sixty, whatever. You know, I always wondered why the Lord, why did He do that? You know why now. I look back, that was the beginning of the greatest move of God in our church. Because 83, 84, 85 were horrible years for me horrible years. '86 the blessings of God began, but they began with this manifestation of the Lord's face on the balcony that stayed for 8 weeks, 8 solid weeks. The Lord has done this in the past but He's about to do it again. Now hear this, I'm prophesying this, Jesus Christ the Son of God is about to appear physically in some churches and some meetings and to many of His people. For one reason, to tell you He's about to show up. So wake up, Jesus is coming saints. You have held back from the Lord in the past -- don't you dare do it now. The day will come you will stand before Him and give an answer. How dare we not give to God? How dare we hold back? Who do we think He is -- some neighbor of ours? He's God Almighty -- we fear the Lord God of hosts. He's not some man -- He's God. If Jesus tonight appeared on this platform here and looked through this camera and said to you I need your offerings so I can touch the world, would you give Him? Of course. Well, I've got news for you. He's saying it, He's saying it, He's saying it through His servants, He's saying it through His Word, He's saying it. The Bible clearly states, 'how shall they go unless they be sent?' And God is speaking to you, so obey him. Some of you need to give large sums tonight. Don't you give those small sums if you have the large sums. Many of you have those small sums. The best you can give is all God wants from you. The best you can give is all expects of ya. But some of you watching right now have money in the bank your gonna leave it behind. You may even lose it unless you obey God tonight. Give to God tonight. God is speaking to you now. Do you know by holding back from God you're keeping God's blessings from your family by holding back from the Lord? You're saying "No, Lord, I don't want your presence in my home." And when you call, tell the Lord, 'I'm sowing tonight because I believe what this man is saying on TV. I believe what Benny Hinn is saying is what I need to hear. The anointing of God is about to invade my home, my life, my children. I'm giving in faith, believing Lord that my seed will touch your heart.' In fact, I'm going to say something I never said on a telethon, I believe that God is healing people while they are making a pledge tonight. There are people getting healed making a pledge. No, no, you are not paying for that healing, and you know that. But God is honoring you for your obedience and touching your body..."

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Well, Jesus couldn't have been clearer approximately 2,000 years ago:

"At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time. "So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man" (Matthew 24:23-27).


Under "The Anointing" on a TV program on 12/31/89 Healing Evangelist Benny Hinn made several prophecies of things the Lord was showing him were to take place in the 1990s: "The Spirit of God tells me an earthquake will hit the east coast of America and destroy much in the 90s." "The Spirit tells me Fidel Castro will die in the 90's. . . Oooh! Holy Spirit just said to me it'll be worse than any death you can imagine." "The Lord also tells me to tell you in the mid-90s -- about '94 or '95, no later than that -- God will destroy the homosexual community of America . . . He will destroy it with fire."

If you do a little research on Benny Hinn you will find that he is a false prophet and false teacher.

Felix:
As Pastor Roger points out, and I will emphatically state also:
Benny Hinn is a false prophet, AND a false teacher.

Why should a prophet make no mistakes?  Because God said so (Deut. 13).  There is no room for error, or "misspeaking."  When a prophet says
"thus saith the LORD", it is the LORD speaking, not the person. If otherwise, it is no more than a mere man speaking his own opinion and mind, and does NOT qualify for "thus saith the LORD!"

It is only in this late age that so many want to prophesy, and even more want to make excuses for them when what they say is shown to be false by it's failure to materialize.

Pastor Roger,

thanx for sharing. So fidel castro didnt die in the 90s... If Benny Hinn did say he prophesied the death of fidel castro and it didnt happen then that was a false prophecy. I'm not sure about Jesus appearing physically. I can only take that as Jesus appearing as he did to the apostle Paul. I'm not sure if Jesus would be in His physical body though. That would be when we are glorified. I'll do more research on Benny Hinn and see what I can dig up. I heard people say good things about him in the past. I always wanted to find out more but never looked into him.

Evangelist,

When a prophet prophesizes there can be no mistake in that. But I am sure they can make mistakes in their speaking and teaching. However, the prophecy itself is from God so that cannot be mistaken.

You see...if God appointed a man to be a teacher and that man taught for 10 years...will you call that man a false teacher if he has taught the wrong thing before; or made a mistake? No, we all make mistakes. That's when we try to do things instead of letting God take care of it.


But in the end, trust no man. Trust only in God. Sometimes we hear a word from a very trusted person and we believe in that. But that word may be false and lead to our destruction.

YOu know something?

Even a real true prophet can tell you to do the wrong thing. Just like that one prophet who told this fellow (forgot the guy) to go eat something, and he was taken out by a lion. This fellow had denied a king, but when he met a prophet he trusted in his words. That lead to his death. So, dont trust anyone! Ask God, "Is what this man saying true?" Dont even trust me! God promises that if you ask, you shall receive. And if you seek, you will find. So if you seek and ask for the truth, God will show you.

Evangelist,

I read deut 13... This does not refer to a false prophet but a real prophet who turns people away from God to other gods. (In these days probably the prophet himself) This indicates that real prophets and teachers can intentionally do evil things and not be called false prophets. This is worse than a false prophet. So again, we can trust in no man. We can only trust in God.

The only sure way to know whether it is from God is to see if it acknowledges that Jesus has come in the flesh. A way to test a man is to ask him, "Can you confess with your mouth tht Jesus Christ is Lord?" Also by checking what he is saying...what it turns your heart to: Jesus or something else.

When the anti-christ comes He will do miraculous signs too. Many others before him may do the same things.  

I've done some research on Benny Hinn. I'm still not sure. God said we could tell by his fruits. I havent found his ministry so I cant tell. Can someone provide some links?

Just go to you "search engine" and type in Benny Hinn. There are many links to this deceiver.

God Bless.
Live Well, Laugh Often and Love the Lord!

wow for once i agree with BigD this may be a bad sign.   The man is a deciever.  One of the biggest bible ref. to this is 2 Peter 3....i think.

Hmmm....I'd go more for Jude 1:11

sorry its 2 peter 2 where it talks about false prophets but Jude works too even though its doesnt have any chapters buddy.

BH is a creep. A creep that steals from old ladies. Uses scripture to rake in the $$$$ A prophet of GOD is never wrong or mistaken. BH uses God for a profit.

I have read the quotes but i have not heard him saying stuff with my own ears. I dont have to hear with my ears to know he is a creep. It is all around him when he is on stage performing. False 'profits' should be exposed.

Reba - please don't be so criptic with you're opinions.   ;D

Benny is a bummer.  It pains me that his face is so prominent in such places as TBN.  

I just pray that Benny Hinn would really know God.  :'(  I don't think he is healing anyone. He hits poor crippled people in the head. Show me one scripture in the Bible that reads it's okay to hit crippled people? How is that healing? If I was crippled I would get up and run too. I'd be afraid of getting hit again. How'd you like to get smacked in the head? But seriously I pray for him, and I think we all need too.

Ha-ha!  Now, THAT'S funny!  GW - you're a comedian!
(I agree with you!)
JN

Benny Hinn= the Pentalcostal Pope ::) :P

(http://www.melindabrody.com/images/tape%20mouth.gif)

Careful - our X-attorney general may be listening...

Yeah, I wrestled with posting it... :-\ In the end, I thought "Hey, everyone else bashes Benny Hin I can't be left out!" This is the Debate forum, after all. Speaking of which, doesn't anyone on this site LIKE Benny Hin at all? I mean, we have what? 20-30 active Christian members Statisiclly, shouldn't someone like him?

X-attorney general? We have a lawyer here? I tought we here trying to let only Christians come in ;D lol j/k No really, did I miss something (I would assume so, that happens when you leave for a year)? Who is the X-attorney general?

Hey Mr. Tibbs!
Our X-attorney general is John Ashcroft – a devout …, a devout…, a devout… PENECOSTAL!
You may have insulted the architect of Homeland Security!  
YIKES!
You have the right to remain silent.   ;D

JN

lol, I thought you meant we had an AG is the forum or something! lol Really? Rummy is a penty? That explains a LOT about Rummy ::)

Tibby!
What have you been smoking tonight, dude?
'Rummy' would be Charles Rumsfeld - Sec of Def
'John Ashcroft' is just John Ashcroft, a devout Christian who happened to be the AG.

You don't read a lot of current events, huh?    ;)
(But - when I was your age, I'm not even sure I knew who the current pres was!   :'(  So you're way ahead of me at your age.)  :D

Yeah, I knew that. I'm just a little bit distracted (see the prayer forum in a few minutes)

Benny Hinn is a joke.  Anyone see the 20/20 investigation on him?  How about the book THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF BENNY HINN???  Worth seeing and reading.  This guy is an antichrist.  The opening to his show says it all: he shakes hands with the pope.  Nuff said.

Oh boy, where do we start? I think you guy have pretty much said everything i think about this man.

The one thing that does bug me though is this. Here in the UK, we have a program that shows clips of various TV shows from around the world, clips that can be funny, of when things go wrong or more of the loony sort of stuff. Yup, you've probably guessed by now. A clip from one of Benny Hinns crusades was shown and the audience in the TV studio were in stiches and i am sure that many people watching the show in there homes, were also laughing.

But then in all seriousness, we will have people who may be watching this, who do not know Jesus, and when they see this sort of stuff, will they want to. My guess would be NO Way. Yup, it sure makes fun watching on TV, some of the things he does, but it can sure be hurting Gods Church.

Hi NateyCakes,

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.  For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.  1 Corinthians 2:15-16  

As for Benny Hinn and others like him, a little God-given "discernment" goes a looooooooong ways...

http://www.intergate.com/~subi/fprophet.htm#Benny (http://www.intergate.com/~subi/fprophet.htm#Benny)

 ;D

In Christ,

Biff

Interesting pager, Biff. Glad to know I'm not the only person who thinks LeHaye is a heretic! ;)

when it comes to benny hinn or anybody else for that matter if what they say does not line up with the whole word of God then you can be sure they are false teachers  and not to be trusted in anything they say or practice.   what sayeth the scripture Christ died and rose again according to the scriptures.
    yours because of Calvary;
        sinner

Instead of finding fault in posts with public figures, perhaps we'd be better off, if we believe someone is misusing the Word, or is prophesying falsely, to follow Scriptural procedures rather than to "speak evil of" them on posts.

Procedures such as Matt 18:15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. "

Twice Scriptures warn us:
 
2 Peter 2:9-10 "the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries,.."

And Jude 1:8 Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries.

While some say these "dignitaries" mentioned are not of flesh and blood but spiritual, it seems it would be wise not to be found among those who "speak evil of dignitaries", even if it is even remotely possible it may mean Benny Hinn.  

peh,

I am not sure which version of the Bible that you are using. The KJV uses the word "dignities" in those two verses not dignitaries.  The original Greek word here is doxa which means "glory (as very apparent), in a wide application (literally or figuratively, objectively or subjectively): - dignity, glory (-ious), honour, praise, worship".

Matt 18:5 is when a brother sins against you. This is not in reference to teaching falsely. Nor are we as individuals judging this man but rather the Word of God is.

As true Christians we must expose false teachings for what they are just as Jesus and the Apostles did.

Amen.

peh:

Seconds to PR, plus....

A public teacher who teaches falsely in public is to be rebuked in public, not with the one-to-one commanded in Mat. 18.

FYI, Mr. Hinn (and others) have been approached in private, and have refused (on numerous occasions) to amend their teachings. Further, they have (on numerous occasions) stated to some parties (magazines) that they would change some portions, and have not, which makes them liars.

Scripture plainly tells us to reprove and rebuke false teachers. We are to try them (by scripture), and when they fail the test to point out that failure to ALL who might listen to them, so that the weaker might not be led astray.

Jesus certainly didn't have any problem upbraiding the Pharisees and money-changers.....IN PUBLIC.

Finally.....your quote of 2 Pet. and Jude is better applied to those false teachers themselves, because they speak of things that they know NOT of, and do so presumptiously, with utter self-will, they despise authority, and walk after the flesh (pursuing filthy lucre).

Learn a little discernment....

Evangelist, excuse me, but Benny Hinn and others publicly scorned, esp in Christian forums, say they are brothers, not public teachers, and when did you ever see a public school teacher chastized in public for teaching evolution?

"FYI, Mr. Hinn (and others) have been approached in private, and have refused (on numerous occasions) to amend their teachings."

FYI, by whom, if you know and are not printing yet more hearsay?   Who says what they teach is incorrect?  You?  Do you not know we "know in part"?   That even "knowledge" shall be done away with?

Pastor Roger, I'm surprised you don't recognize the NKJV then.  I copied/pasted from the Bible itself. and it says "dignitaries".  

"Nor are we as individuals judging this man but rather the Word of God is."   Really?  How about this quote from one of "we"?  "...LeHaye is a heretic!"  "Benny Hinn is a joke", and I especially found this one enlightening and heartwarming, "This guy is an antichrist.  The opening to his show says it all: he shakes hands with the pope."

How is the Word judging Benny Hinn?  The Word Himself said He did not come to judge the world but to save it, even though all judgement is given Him.   I say those who post ungracious, unloving and accusatory words against one who says he is a brother, is himself puffed up with what he thinks is "higher" or "better" knowledge, and is himself deceived in thinking he is acting like a Christian.  

"Scripture plainly tells us to reprove and rebuke false teachers."    Where?

"Learn a little discernment.... ", that is the attitude of a haughty and arrogant Pharisee, not a brother of Christ, and I say to you, "teacher, teach yourself".    See if it is meek and mild or arrogant and proud to "lord it over" another's faith.  You assume you know the Truth, and that Benny Hinn and others you criticize are not teaching it.   How is it that you are so blessed as to be holder of all truth?   And someone who has been a Christian for a very long time is a false teacher "pursuing filthy lucre" because you say so?

Surely you will say now that you have personally heard Mr, Hinn say something that was shockingly irreverent against God, the Holy Spirit, or Jesus?  If so, I ask you to post it, and prove it, and not by hearsay but by reality.  

The kinds of things said against public figures in Christianity are not so easy to stand against, but are whispers from a church that knows no sort of loyalty to its members, no regard except for their own understanding of God's PRECIOUS Word, and cares not at all that the world is damning the very ones you damn with even less reason.  

I'm sure the enemy of our souls rejoices to see such folly.

"Finally.....your quote of 2 Pet. and Jude is better applied to those false teachers themselves...".  Since you dare criticize my choice of Scripture, as if you are a judge of how the interpretation should be aimed, how about this one?  

Eph 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice.

Finally, and I do not call you brothers, since you have shown me the implication that you are Christian cannot be taken at face value but must, in the basement of my human reasoning, be sorted and sifted and JUDGED by how "I" think you are doing, if you are of the Truth or not.  And based on "MY" judgement, I may determine if you are worthy of my respect or not. If not, I may call you names, insinuate and state out right that you are not Christian, but a "false teacher".  

I'm sure you would say to me, "Of course, I am a Christian".  "Do you not see Pastor in front of my name?   Do you not see I have named myself Evangelist?   HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY STATION?  

And so I say the same to you, HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ANONE WHO SAYS THEY ARE CHRISTIAN?   Can you not question their teaching?   Can you not attempt to see why they teach as they do?   Must you assume it is to "pursue filthy lucre"?   Must you think as the world thinks?

One poster asked if we saw the 20-20 interview with Mr Hinn.  Now there is a question.   And then to use the information from that interview to further denigrate Mr Hinn?  What are you thinking?

My favorite verse is rev. 2:2 when it comes to discussing false teachers. I like this verse because The Lord's heart is so evident. This section of the letter contains The Lord's commendations to the Ephesians. Jesus applauds their trying and their judging of these charlatans.
Rev 2:2
2. I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: (KJV)  

Someone whose discernment is in the embryo stages should pick up immediately that Hinn is no man of God, is a liar and an embarassment to us all.

Agape
Bairn

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"Scripture plainly tells us to reprove and rebuke false teachers."    Where?
2Ti 4:2  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Tit 1:10  For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Tit 1:11  Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Tit 1:12  One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
Tit 1:13  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
Tit 1:14  Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

Tit 2:14  Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Tit 2:15  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.


Personally I could care less if you question my position or not, nor do I care if you call me brother for I am not here for my own vainful purposes. I am just a man. It is not my position here that is being talked of but rather the teachings and position of Jesus Christ. It has already been shown earlier in this thread where Benny Hinn in his own words quite plainly taught the opposite of Jesus Christ. These things are not something that is a "matter of individual interpretation" but quite a definite, very plain matter.


Gal 6:14  But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Hmmm, let's see, Evangelist:

Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

Way of Cain - he killed his brother out of jealousy
Error of Balaam - he was going to curse God's people for reward
Gainsaying (rebelling) of Core - now this was a bit more difficult, but according to the Lexicon, Core refers to Korah, a man who, along with others, rebelled against God's chosen leader.

Now just who did you say this verse refers to?

As a matter of record, let me point out that neither Benny Hinn nor others of those labelled as "false teachers" are very likely to read this forum's posts.   So, then there is no correction of him or any of the others' called "false teachers" on this forum.   There is however, accusations and backbiting, which as a matter of definition is speaking evil about a person not present.

This is what my posts are addressing, not whether the accusations of false teaching are true or incorrect, but this:  1 Cor 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.  First, we must recognize no one of us has all Truth.

Therefore, to believe we know someone else is teaching falsely and we are called upon to correct them, requires this:

1.  That we address it to them.  
2.  That we ask for prayer from others who are equally discerning that the false teaching would not continue.
3.  That we would teach those who ask for it or who appear to be in need of it, what the true teaching of Christ is to the best of our ability.  

To do the above, no accusations, or slander, or evil speaking in posts is required.   Dependence on God alone is definitely required, and humbling.  

peh,

I know that you mean well, but this one isn't even close. Benny Hinn is a false prophet, a false teacher, and a person who commits fraud to live in luxury, all in the name of the Lord. He has such a lengthy track record of such acts that much is recorded all over the Internet and other media. Christians don't wish God's speed to people like Benny Hinn.

If you don't believe the tiny sampling of evidence here, do your own search on the Internet and you will have overwhelming evidence that is impossible to ignore. Look at it for yourself. In the meantime, you should not expect God's children on Christians Unite or anywhere else to support a person who is NOT working for God. The highly documented evidence is NOT just a matter of opinion. It is not against the teachings of the Holy Bible to boldly state the truth about such people.

Love In Christ,
Tom

II Timothy 3:16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Amen sister! I had wanted to reply to this a lot sooner. Because at the time, I just had a revelation about this matter and was very eager to share it when I read this.

Earlier in this thread...this was exactly why I questioned these people here. I asked Evangelist to tell me what prophecies were false. Just like you said sister..."perhaps we'd be better off, if we believe someone is misusing the Word, or is prophesying falsely, to follow Scriptural procedures rather than to "speak evil of" them on posts." This is what is suppose to be done. Otherwise, we are judged by God himself.


Brothers and sisters, at this point...I still do not know if Benny Hinn is a false teacher and prophet...even after coming to a site that rebuked Hinn.

What is the situation here?

Consider the following:
A prophet of God comes. People call him a heretic and a liar. Therefore, people believe that and throw out everything that man says. What if...just what if what that man is saying is a Word from God??? Do you know who is at judgement here? Can we learn something from the OT? Do we not see that the trend of Israel were to reject the words from God's prophets? Do we not see that it were the pharisees themselves who rejected the Words of God Himself, Jesus Christ?!

God does not want people to easily ill-believe in people. This is JUDGING! You will be judged in like manner. You see...even if the prophet is false you will not be accountable for thinking he was real. But you will be held accountable if the prophet is true and you speak evil of him.


Why you are or are not accountable:
Say a person says he's the greatest basketball player in the world (the truth is he's not; he is lying). However, you believe him.

Then one day you meet him and watch him play a game. You find out from this that he didnt even score a point. So he exalted himself and he is then humbled by the truth. Judgement itself fell on him. There was no need for man to make this judgement. Otherwise, it is dangerous...

Now consider a person who says he is the greatest basketball player in the world (this is the truth; he is NOT lying). You hear people speak ill of him who say he's arrogant and cant even slam dunk. You hear and accept full heartedly these ill words against him. You do not believe he is the greatest basketball player in the world; you think he is just exalted himself. So who is at judgement here? YOU are! Because you choose to accept these false and ill words against him and you believed it! And not only that but you spread this word to others and bring them under your same judgement!


So what can we learn from this?
It is not wise to be so quick to bind yourself to hearsay. You need to find out the truth by seeing it. Just like if you watch these two basketplayers play in several games, you will find the truth. Then you will not be under judgement if you decide how good they are because you witnessed the truth.

This should be the basis of how we discern these things.

The difference here is not just in hearing this person but comparing what he says to that of what Jesus has said. When they do not agree then you know that he is a false prophet or teacher. There is NO danger in this. The danger is in not doing the Lords work by exposing these falsehoods using the tools (GOD'S WORD) that the Lord has provided us thereby saving many from falling prey to his evil work.

I for one will not rest in doing the Lords work. I will expose the work of the Devil and teach the word of God every chance that I get.

AMEN PASTOR ROGER!

AND, many will join you, including me. Further, I'm not concerned about criticism while doing the Lord's work. The Bible is very specific about this, especially dealing with false prophets/teachers. SO, I'll do as the Bible commands.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Isaiah 5:20  Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

peh wrote:

And so I say the same to you, HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ANONE WHO SAYS THEY ARE CHRISTIAN?

(accents mine)


Jesus wrote and commended the Ephesians saying:

 and- thou- hast- tried- them- which- say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:  Rev 2:2b (KJV)

Bairn

Amen, Beps. The criticism isn't what bothers me. They can say what they will about me. It is Gods word that counts not me.

Everyone one of you needs to read the following at least three times...and then compare this to your response.

quote from peh


Brothers and sisters...now look at what you said AGAINST this. As this was peh's original intent. This was exactly what I was being led by when I first posted here some time ago.


Brother, please show me what criticism you speak of. Challenge what I said. Examine what was said. Please read and reread my analogy. Do you believe this is the truth?

Are you using Isaiah 5:20 against me? I know that the word of God is living and powerful. If you believe this is the case, WOE to me. Woe to me if I put darkness for light and light for darkness. Woe to me if I call evil good and good evil.


I cannot know whether Benny Hinn is a true or false prophet based on what is said here. I will be safe and clear from judgement by not abiding in ad hominems and ill speaking. If Benny Hinn is a false prophet; I will not be under judgement. If Benny Hinn is a true prophet; I will not be under judgement.

Whether He is true or false his teachings cannot affect me because I do not know them! But once I know them and I find that these teachings fail and are not of God then I will know the truth. For we being sons of God, and are lead by the Spirit of God. We will clearly know it.

I speak the truth... From what is said here and on the first few sites I got from a search engine...I do not know enough to say if Hinn is true or false. I sense predispositions against Hinn. These exhortations I do not find purity in. In the day I directly say Hinn is a false prophet or true prophet...will be the day I know.

I do not feel it inside me. So I will myself stay clear of judgement before speaking evil of this man. Peh has given powerful advice. What is evil in this? Is this true? So what is it that you are speaking out against?

Consider what is written...what do you disagree with?

Felix,

First, the Bible Verse is a random quote program I use for this forum.

Second, I don't think that you and peh understand what we are talking about. We are not talking about Benny Hinn committing an offense against us, rather of Benny Hinn committing an offense against God. He would have faced horrible consequences in the Old Testament. He would simply be shunned and accursed in the New Testament. There is more than enough here and in other threads about the same person to check for yourself and do your own study about these issues. Don't confuse a private offense with an offense against God and the Gospel. It is time for you to do your own study.

Regarding those who rebuke and shun Benny Hinn, that won't stop by any mature Christian. You are certainly free to disagree and do what you wish. You and peh should study the issues and the Bible before condemning a Biblical practice by other brothers and sisters in Christ.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Romans 8:31  What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? (Another Random Bible quote)

 Benny Hinn is a false prophet! :D

This is truth, like it or not. if you don't know, then don't argue for or against until you do know. It's really that simple.

 I know, as do many others, that's why we can make the statement - Benny Hinn is a false prophet! :D

Brother Tom. I am fully allowing myself to be bound by scripture. If I call evil good and good evil, woe to me! I have confessed that the Word of God is living and operative. It will be done.

Then you know my integrity. That I do not favor or show any partiality to Benny Hinn. I will not call Benny Hinn evil or good because I do not know, otherwise woe to me! Hence I am not claiming Benny Hinn is good, or even that Benny Hinn is evil.

You say we(I and peh) dont understand what you all are talking about.


Brother, that is obvious. On the contrary, I think it was you who misunderstood us.

I know what you think. What me and peh have said is not in error. You cannot find it. You know there is no error in this and this is true. What you believe, however, is that we are condemning the people here for speaking against Benny Hinn. Apparently, this is what everyone here is speaking against.


So let me tell you what is my true motive and my heart. What I wrote was not in response to anyone's post but peh's. I did not even read through any other post. The revelation of that analogy and what I wrote was what I had a long time before this time. If you don't believe me this is evident in the first few posts of mine in this thread. I can testify and stand with what peh posted... this is the same idea I have had...and we have never even shared this. We have seen and felt the same thing...yet we are strangers.

The post I wrote was testimony that surely...we are empowered and taught by the same Spirit. That was first and foremost.

Secondly, in my being, I do sense that what is being done here is speaking ill...and also easily believing ill of a person of whom we really do not know. The same sense that peh had. If someone calls a man a false prophet without any further detail that is not enough to know anything. If you claim you are doing the Lord's work then you will reveal to us what would make that man a false prophet.


I have done some research on Benny Hinn. But in me, I do not know enough. I can easily let my mind conform to what these people say about Hinn, but that is not what I sense from the inner man. I do not hear that from the spirit.

You will say, "Are you just plain dumb or are you willing to follow a false prophet." I tell you...the latter is not true. But for the first... ???...I dont care how you judge me. It is God who is the absolute judge of all things...who knows the true intent of man's heart.


Bronzesnake,
If you don't know, then don't argue for or against until you do know.

I am not arguing for or against anything.

Brother Felix,

 ???  OK  ???

Let's see what random Bible Verse comes up this time.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Galatians 2:20  I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Felix and Peh,

Since you are so willing to condemn people for what they have to say about Benny Hinns teachings and are not willing to take what they have to say in the matter then I suggest that you listen to Benny Hinn yourselves and hear how he teaches that we do not have God within us but that we are Gods. How he says that he is prophesying yet none, zero, zip, nada of them have come true when he said they would. How he said that Jesus Christ would be and has been here on earth recently in the flesh. How he supports the act of necromancy which is against the word of God. Then once you have heard for yourselves compare this to the teachings of Jesus Christ himself.

There are many of Benny Hinns audio clips available on the net. Search for them and listen to them for yourselves perhaps then you might believe and will no longer condemn good and faithful Christians for condemning his teachings.

I feel I can begin this post by stating for the record that I am not a follower of Benny Hinn, nor of any other public figure in Christianity.  I've felt during the earlier posting that to state this would be construed as self-defensive, and I refuse to defend myself on those grounds.  But let it be known to any who have thought otherwise that I follow no man in doctrine.  

I have been a student of the Bible for many years and have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ that allows me freedom to discern truth from error.  And if I should be led into error, I'm convinced that the Holy Spirit, who guides the sons of God. will lead me directly back out.  That is not to say I believe my set of doctrines to be without error.  No one should be that bold so long as 1 Cor 13:9, 12 are in Scripture.

The point on this thread doesn't appear to really be about whether or not Benny Hinn or any other public Chrisitan figure is a false teacher.   Even if it were, the posts on this forum HAVE NO EFFECT on his/their teaching, and only reach those who read the posts.   What the negative posts seem to be about are personal attacks on a figure who has had a good deal of negative publicity written about them.  Those who seem agreeable to the negativity say that they must correct false teaching.

Therefore, I insist that to speak ill of them is NOT the same as correcting false teaching.  If correcting false teaching were the aim, no names or name calling would be necessary at all.   A simple, "this is not so, and here's why" would suffice.  

Not all the negative posts go so far as to post slanderous remarks, or speak ill of public figures, but some do and other posters are further tempted to do so by agreement from posters who would appear to have been Christians long enough to know that to provoke someone else to do wrong is worse than doing it yourself.

Pastor Roger, you posted and addressed this statement to me and felix102, "Since you are so willing to condemn people for what they have to say about Benny Hinns teachings and are not willing to take what they have to say in the matter...".

Neither of the your statements are true.   And here's why:   neither felix102 nor I have condemned anyone, in fact it is not in our power to do so, nor do I, and I believe felix102 is wise enough also that he does not, have any desire to condemn anyone.  

Neither are either of us, (I believe I can speak for felix102), unwilling to consider that someone may be a false teacher if our spirits indicated we should look into it.  

So, again, at the risk of just repeating what I've said before and what a few others have said in agreement, I say again, why go to the point of evil speaking when it is not necessary for the goal you proclaim yourself to have?  

If you wish to make sure those who read your posts get the truth, then post it.  If what someone says is false, post that and then post the truth.  Let us see what you teach.  Let us discern what you proclaim, to see if it is the truth or not.

 Without trying to provoke, I must say - that kind of wish- washy logic is going to get people severely confused as to what the Truth is and is not. When a Christian "pastor" (especially a world renowned pastor) goes on world wide TV, and makes false statements - bends the scriptures – proclaims himself to be a prophet, and deceives his followers, he is a false prophet. To candy coat it only confuses people who are honestly seeking after the Truth. There is only one Truth.

 Pastor Roger has pointed out specific instances of Benny's heretical teachings, as have others. Now you either believe that Benny is correct and the Bible is wrong, or you believe the Bible is correct and Benny is wrong. But it goes much farther than merely being wrong in this case. Hinn is an intelligent man by all appearances; he knows full well that the things he says are not found in God's Word. Hinn fancies himself as a prophet above God's own infallible Word. To do anything less than condemn this kind of evil is to embrace it.

peh:

The underlying theme in this debate seems to be “contending for the Faith”, as Paul urged Timothy, vs. tolerance, a “holy” buzz-word in the scriptures of political correctness.

The Lord, as all bible students know, had some good things to say and some bad things to say about the churches in Asia written to in Rev. chapters 2 and 3. Most students also realize these letters address much more than just these seven local churches.

Rev 2:2
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: (KJV)

How did they “try” them? in court? No. They heard them and found (judged) them liars. Jesus commends them!

OK..I’m new in Ephesus, I’m looking for a good bible church. (oops I forgot they were one per city then) the brothers and sisters at the “Forum” fellowship receive me warmly, but I notice they are stern in their warnings about a cross-town “prophet”. I work hard for days to show them how un-christian their attitude is. I don’t go hear the guy but I know for sure:  

YOU JUST DON’T JUDGE SOMEONE WHO CALLS HIMSELF A CHRISTIAN

One day there is excitement as it is learned a brother has smuggled a letter from the beloved apostle John who has been exiled on the island of Patmos. The excitement increases as we find out that Jesus, through John, has directly addressed the fellowship here in Ephesus. In the body of the letter we find out how very pleased Jesus is with the Ephesians for trying and judging false apostles. “Perhaps”, I consider, “I have misunderstood some teachings about such matters”.

Rev 2:20
20. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest (tolerate) that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. (KJV)

Shall we assume that this chastisement applies only to prophetesses, fornication and food offered to idols? How about a “prophet” who says he has seen men turned into snakes before his eyes and teaches that the Godhead really consists of three trinities, who foretells the annihilation of all homosexuals from the earth on a long past date, who predicts that soon thousands of people will rise from the dead and watch TBN and others will rise from their caskets that have been placed in front of televisions on which Paul Crouch’s program is airing?

Jesus chastises the Thyatirans for their tolerance of this Jezebel. To tolerate such things angers Him.
You may have been duped into superimposing the p.c. doctrine of tolerance onto scriptures like James 4:11

James 4:11
Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. (KJV)

Do you suppose James would have insisted the Ephesians or the Thyatirans apply this to their false “apostles” and “Jezebels”? They would have lost their commendation from Christ.

Matt 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (KJV)

Judging a false apostleship is not speaking evil of a brother, it is commended by Jesus Christ. We shouldn’t be vitriolic in our condemning these ministries, but we are certainly encouraged to be intolerant and forthright in our judgement.

Agape

Bairn

I have zero respect for Benny Hinn as a teacher.  I believe the evidence shows his distinctive teachings are primarily false ones.  I feel the same about many many evangelical leaders, both Pentecostal and otherwise, that get far less mention than Benny Hinn does.  Some get no mention.  

We often tend nowadays to judge others against our own theology rather than against the Bible.  Benny doesn't measure up to either regular evangelical theology or the Bible.  If you're wondering what regular evangelical theology is, contrast it with unleaded and supreme and you might get a better grasp on what I mean ;)  Our trends and traditions allow us to easily label those outside our circle of thought as "heretics" and the majority in our group easily follow our opinions out of peer pressure and lack of much caring anyway.  Their place is in the group.  So much of it is based on peer pressure rather than real study of Scripture.  We tend to regroup when once we enter Christian forums like this one.  

I read an article the other day that proved that Charles Finney was a Pelagian, and therefore a heretic.  They didn't bother proving that Pelagius was a heretic.  The whole thing was based upon peer pressure.  Because everyone is sure that Pelagius is a heretic, therefore Finney is, even though not everyone's quite as sure about him.  That's ridiculous.  Where's the Biblical investigation of these men?  That's what we should all be after.  Only through the Bible can we prove anyone is a heretic.

Ever noticed how serious Reformed Theologians tend to stay Reformed their whole lives?  And serious Pentecostal Theologians tend to stay Pentecostal their whole lives?  They represent a cause they know a lot about, and yet neither side will change or ever really learn anything new.  I'm just speaking in general.  I used to go by most every label out there, at one point or another. Theological systems can have such a grasp on people though most of them aren't even Biblical.  The same goes for Benny Hinn's followers.

We need to be sensitive to the followers of any religion or denomination or teacher, or else we won't be at all helpful in helping them out of the ideology they are clinging too- often for their lives.  I've seen Benny be a great comfort and faith endorser for someone close to me.  My great grandmother.  I don't think she understood most of his specific doctrines, but he helped her believe and I was too young to help her myself very much.  Whether her faith was acceptable before God, is for Him to decide, but I'm glad of my hope that it was.  Though my family stated we disagreed with Benny, at the same time, I am glad she died believing in God through Benny rather than not at all.  As Paul stated, in Phil.  He was glad that Christ was preached from whatever motive, whether in pretense or truth.  At the same time Paul was very eager to uproot heresy, particularly the judiazers who compromised the very essence of the gospel.  He had strong words for them and had the right to speak them since he dealt first hand on their level and was a man who was lead by God's Spirit.  People like my grandma are not easy to uproot from their faith.  Not easy at all.  Like all the systems out there, Word of Faith is very binding and blinding.  These are real people caught up in error here.  

I'm not sympathetic to false teachers or false teachings.  I wish they were all gone!  But we live in a real world in which we must realize that's not going to happen.  We need to learn to be sensitive but dogmatic to people's faces, and sensitive but dogmatic behind their backs, on Christian forums.  Though I have zero respect for Hinn as a teacher, I have high respect for him as a human being created in God's image.  Let not our words condemn us because we have gone too far and started to attack the essential person rather than the message.  James 3.  These things should not be brethren.  I feel there could be some distinctions made here about what attacking the essential person is, and isn't, but I'll leave that for others to discuss.  My primary point is that love should be paramount.  Love that is strong with truth, but is also gentle and peacable.  The seed who's fruit is righteousness is sown in peace by those who bring peace.  If you have concern for people who are caught up in Word of Faith, then think hard about how to reach them.  

I believe Peh has a very good point.  It is not right to speak ill of Benny personally.  Both for his sake and for the sake of those sympathetic to his message.  If we are going to be persuasive and not look like biased elitists, then we must learn to be sensitive and caring.  We need to show love so that our own message carries with it the distinctive of having good fruit.  Let not just our doctrine but our behavior constrast with our opponents.  This is in large measure what makes our message meaningful.  If it hasn't had an effect in our lives, then maybe we are as heretical as Benny is?  

I understand the tendency to feel the pleasure in jumping on what seems to be an obvious badguy.  With all the disagreements among us, atleast we can agree about this one thing!  Right?  Apparently not.    

This is the real world and our purpose here is to be the glorification of Christ.  So I say bravo to those who have written kind, but dogmatic and well evidenced posts about Benny's dangerous errors.  And bravo to those who are seeking to reform the way we go about the business of doing that.  In a kind and persuasive, non elitist way.  

And if any are in the category I just left off a bravo for, then you're who I'm directing this message primarily to and I'll let you decide because I don't care to judge any of you.  Let the reality of the thread be the judge.  I understand.  I wrote an email a few days ago to a friend in which I ridiculed a branch of theology in a way that was not right.  I wrote him back and said I was sorry for doing it.  He agreed with me about the errors of the theology I was mocking, so it was just a case in which I was trying to extract pleasure out of my mockery because of my own hurt heart in the matter.  False theology does hurt us deep inside.

Yet I feel we can all discuss even the difficult things of the faith in a kind and feeling manner, because we are saints.  Well hopefully most of us.  People don't change easily.  We need to question what our purpose is here?  Are we like Paul who was eager to be poured out on the sheep like a drink offering?  Like John who was willing to decrease so Christ could increase?  Then let us try our utmost to win converts to truth and make disciples of all nations.  Love covers a multitude of sins and yet Love can break bones.    

I hope I was helpful.  I would like to see peace here aswell as unity.  What are we fighting for that is meaningful if not for all of us to be better followers of Christ in humility, love, and truth.  Perhaps this post could be put in almost any thread in any Christian forum on the web.  Well it's here.  God bless.

Benjamin

Thanks Audax! True and wise word.


Did everyone here not see clearly what we wrote??????? Since I am so willing to condemn people?!

Imagine that this wasnt written here but in some other thread. Would you be saying the same things?


peh:
it seems it would be wise not to be found among those who "speak evil of dignitaries", even if it is even remotely possible it may mean Benny Hinn

felix:
It is not wise to be so quick to bind yourself to hearsay. You need to find out the truth by seeing it.


I still think the problem here is that people here are not speaking against what we have said but what they THINK was our intentions. I dont think either of us know who Benny Hinn is. We are neither supporting or going against him.

Next thing is you probably think that I am condemning you. If you will read again completely what I said especially near the end...



Audax came out and stated his clear stance against Benny Hinn. And enlightened us on how we should go about things.

Peh came out and stated she had no stance on Benny Hinn. And enlightened us on how we should go about things.

So are we going to have to correct Audax too?

We have pages of information in this thread from folks who state they have no information to be for or against Benny Hinn, yet Scriptures that have nothing to do with the subject are being used to rebuke brothers and sisters who do have information about Benny Hinn.

I'll make a random summary and lock this thread.

1 - Benny Hinn is a false prophet/teacher, and there are heavily documented sources that prove it.

2 - Benny Hinn isn't a false prophet/teacher, but I don't know anything about him.

3 - Pay attention to the Scriptures that deal with personal offenses and other unrelated issues. Shame on you for calling Benny Hinn a false prophet/teacher.

4 - Pay attention to the Scriptures that deal specifically with false prophets. Shame on you for condemning a required and Biblical practice.