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Title: trinity
Post by: dragon on January 23, 2005, 11:33:13 PM
is the trinity three in one or one in three?  


Title: Re:trinity
Post by: shrekandogre on January 23, 2005, 11:40:10 PM
both.  the trinity is one of the concepts that its more faith then anything.  You might as well not try to comprehend it.


Title: Re:trinity
Post by: dragon on January 23, 2005, 11:44:09 PM
 :-\  someone told me i wasn't christian because i thought it was three in one?!  he said, "it's one in three!" ???


Title: Re:trinity
Post by: Bronzesnake on January 24, 2005, 03:01:45 AM
:-\  someone told me i wasn't christian because i thought it was three in one?!  he said, "it's one in three!" ???

 It all depends on how you concieve it.

 Three Gods in one form would be wrong. One God in three forms is correct.

 See what I mean?

Bronzesnake


Title: Re:trinity
Post by: Evangelist on January 24, 2005, 10:46:13 AM
:-\  someone told me i wasn't christian because i thought it was three in one?!  he said, "it's one in three!" ???

Sounds like "someone" is a modalist, possibly UPC.  That's One God, appearing in three different manifestations or modes of operation, but never simultaneously.

One God, 3 persons (Father, Son, Holy Ghost), co-existing eternally, equal in divinity and power, separate in function.


Title: Re:trinity
Post by: dragon on January 26, 2005, 04:41:20 PM
 :) thank-you.


Title: Re:trinity
Post by: asaph on April 01, 2005, 03:58:42 AM
is the trinity three in one or one in three?  
Matthew 28:19 speaks clearly of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. However, if you read this verse carefully, you will see that the Three have just one name. It says, “Baptizing them into the name [not names] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” There are Three with one name. This is the Triune God, the Trinity. How can we explain this? We cannot.
There is one God but He is triune in His very essence.
I think 3 in 1 or 1 in 3 is too simplistic. Neither ideas really describe God. God is complex. He is Father , Son, and Holy Spirit.
We cannot understand but we can enjoy. If we have the Spirit we also have the Father and Son. If we have any one we have the triune God. God is one.
God said "let us make man..." Notice "us".
God is love. Love is without meaning unless there is an object to love. God has always been love before creation. What was His object to love. The answer lies within Himself. He is triune.
The Father loves the Son and visa versa. The Spirit loves the Son and Father and so on. The love of God was poured into our hearts by the Holy Spirit.
To love God is to enjoy Him!
asaph


Title: Re:trinity
Post by: asaph on April 02, 2005, 03:30:12 AM
is the trinity three in one or one in three?  
Matthew 28:19 speaks clearly of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. However, if you read this verse carefully, you will see that the Three have just one name. It says, “Baptizing them into the name [not names] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” There are Three with one name. This is the Triune God, the Trinity. How can we explain this? We cannot.
There is one God but He is triune in His very essence.
I think 3 in 1 or 1 in 3 is too simplistic. Neither ideas really describe God. God is complex. He is Father , Son, and Holy Spirit.
We cannot understand but we can enjoy. If we have the Spirit we also have the Father and Son. If we have any one we have the triune God. God is one.
God said "let us make man..." Notice "us".
God is love. Love is without meaning unless there is an object to love. God has always been love before creation. What was His object to love. The answer lies within Himself. He is triune.
The Father loves the Son and visa versa. The Spirit loves the Son and Father and so on. The love of God was poured into our hearts by the Holy Spirit.
To love God is to enjoy Him!
asaph
I have a hard time with the idea of separating Matthew 28:19 from Matthew 28:18.  Also, it should be noted that the phrase "in the name of" is used in the sense of "by the authority of."  Taking it in that sense, and coupling it with Matthew 28:18 where Jesus said all authority was given to Him, we can more easily see why, in the book of Acts, they baptized not in the Matthew 28:19 "formula" but in the name of Jesus.  I find that this is the only way I can reconcile what would otherwise seemingly be contradictory scriptures (and I know that scripture doesn't contradict itself).
Actually I do not think it necessary to use the actual names- Father , Son, and Holy Spirit, particularly because the name of Jesus represents the Triune God. Therefore baptizing in the name of Jesus is the same as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. His is the name above every name because of fact that his name means and represents the Trinity. Jesus is the quickening Spirit as well as the everlasting Father and the Prince of peace. To have Jesus is to have the Father and Spirit as well. The Triune God is a mystery. All we can do is enjoy this wonderful God!

God Bless,
asaph