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 After the testing process, (Mark of the Beast) whereby every person on earth will make their choice for, or against Jesus Christ...THEN Jesus will come again, to gather his people to take them back to heaven.
  The Great Tribulation will be ...the 'Day of Judgment', for those living just before Christ returns.

Well .. maybe you meant to make that a little clearer. During the Great Tribulation 144,000 Jewish Believers will minister to those that are still here, following the rapture of the church. At the end of the Great Tribulation the Second Coming occurs, Jesus coming with the church. Perhaps I didn't see another comment that you were responding to.  ???

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John here:
I see some judged before this time? The 1 Peter 4:17 ones are  judged FIRST. These faithful ones of Rev. 3:10 are promised.. "I will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon [all the world, to try them]."  :)

The Mark of the beast is the test, agreed?? So the ones that are giving the warning from Rev. 14:6-10 surely must know what warning Christ has them giving, right???  ???

So, as Israel of old were JUDGED FIRST, (Midnight Cry of Matt. 25) it seems that this last denomination with this message of warning also must also have their cleansing & falling away before the worlds final 666 testing? 70AD's Loud cry likeness? (testing of professed Christians)

Notice that Matt. 10 is for Israel of old? (verse 5-6) Christ said in verse 7, "And as ye go, PREACH, SAYING THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND."  Was it??? Christ was right there Himself! It was judgement time for VIRGIN ISRAEL. (His own) They had their judgement FIRST. Check John 9:39-41 & See Matt. 23:38? "Behold, your house (denomination) is left unto you DESOLUTE." (of Christ)

---John

No, the Bible says that the Anti-christ must be revealed before the gathering of the church, ( 2 Thessaloians 2:1-3).
    Revelation 20: 4,5 shows that the first resurrection comes at the end of the Beast reign.

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The Mark of the Beast [is] the Great Tribulation. Christ's Second Coming follows very soon after that! There is [no one] that is alive on earth then, other than satan & his evil angels. It is the 'Blessed and Holy that hath part in the FIRST resurection' & 'the rest of the dead lived not until the 1000 years were FINISHED'.

The wicked who had died do not come up from the grave in the first resurection. They stay put until the 1000 years are ended. See 1 Thess. 4:15-16 (notice the last 6 Words)

And the wicked living when Christ comes? They will be slain by His Brilliance & Glory! (ALL WICKED ARE THEN DEAD) See 2 Thess. 2:8 & Rev. 6:14-17.

Do you remember what happened at Christ's tomb when just two angels appeared? The guards fell like dead men!  Just try to imagine what will happen when Christ comes in ALL OF HIS GLORY with ALL OF THE HEAVENLY ANGELS!??
---John

So it sounds as though, after Rev 20:4-5, IF all the Christian church is removed from off the earth, there shouldn't be anyone that is a Christian on the earth.

This passage does not give the impression there is a rapture at this point, at verse 11, there is the great white throne judgement. It sounds like the end of the age.


It is clear from Mat 24:29-30, Jesus returns "imediately after the tribulation of those days,

And verse 31, says;  "his angels will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

Question.............. if this is after the end of the Tribulation of these days, and this is the Rapure, which according to vs 31, includes every last Christian from one end of heaven to the other;

How is it there is a camp of the saints, here on the earth??,  surrounded by the armies of the nations of the world which Satan (at verse 9 of Rev 20), brings around the beloved city, Jerusalem, and this can not be the heavenly Jerusalem, since it has not come down from heaven, yet..

The heavenly Jerusalem comes down after God creates a new heaven and a new earth.

Something doesn't sound right, here??




Petro

From Swedenborg's writings:

Rev.13:11.
And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, signifies the clergy in the churches of the Reformed who are in the doctrine and faith of the dragon concerning God and salvation.

What the faith of the dragon is and its quality, may be seen above.

That it is the laity that are meant by "the beast which came up out of the sea," and the clergy by "the beast which came up out of the earth," because by "the sea" is signified the external of the church, and by "the earth" its internal.

The laity are in the externals of the doctrine of the church, and the clergy are in its internals.

That the clergy are now described, appears from all the particulars which follow, when understood in the spiritual sense; and manifestly from this, that this beast is also called "the false prophet" (Rev. 16:13; 19:20; 20:10).

Especially from the following passage:
 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that did signs before him, by which he seduced them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that adored his image (Rev. 19:20).

That this beast did signs before the other, by which he seduced them, is said in this chapter in these words:
    And he doeth great signs, and he seduceth them that dwell on the earth, on account of the signs which it was given him to do before the beast, saying to them to make an image to the beast, and adore it (Rev. 13:13-15).

Harry
 

Rev.16
 Verse 1. "And I heard a great voice out of the temple, saying to the seven angels, Go, and pour out the vials of the anger of God into the earth," signifies influx from the Lord from the inmost of heaven into the church of the Reformed, where they are who are in faith separated from charity as to doctrine and as to life.

Verse 2. "And the first went forth, and poured out his vial on the earth," signifies into those who are in the interiors of the church of the Reformed, and study the doctrine of justification by faith alone, and are called the clergy. "And there came an evil and noxious sore," signifies interior evils and falsities destructive of all good and truth in the church. "Upon the men that had the mark of the beast, and that adore his image," signifies in those who live faith alone and receive the doctrine of it.

Verse 3. "And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea" signifies influx among those there who are in its externals, and in that faith, and are called the laity. "And it became blood as of one dead, and every living soul died in the sea," signifies infernal falsity with them, by which every truth of the Word and thence of the church and of faith was extinguished.

Verse 4. "And the third angel poured out his vial into the rivers and the fountains of waters," signifies influx into the understanding of the Word with them. "And they became blood," signifies the truths of the Word falsified.

Verse 5. "And I heard the angel of the waters saying," signifies the Divine truth of the Word. "Thou art just, O Lord, who art, and who wast, and art holy, because Thou hast judged these things," signifies that this is from the Divine Providence of the Lord, who is and who was the Word, which otherwise would be profaned.

 Verse 6. "Because they have poured out the blood of saints and prophets," signifies that this is for the reason, that this alone, that faith alone without the works of the law saves, being received, perverts all doctrinal truths from the Word. "And Thou hast given them blood to drink, for they are worthy," signifies that it was permitted those who have confirmed themselves in faith alone in doctrine and in life, to falsify the truths of the Word, and to imbue their life from falsified things.

 Verse 7. "And I heard another out of the altar, saying, Yea, O Lord God Almighty, true and just are Thy judgments," signifies the Divine good of the Word confirming that Divine truth.

 Verse 8. "And the fourth angel poured out his vial into the sun," signifies influx into their love. "And it was given him to scorch men with fire," signifies that love to the Lord tortured them, because they were in the lusts of evils from the delight of their love.

Verse 9. "And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who hath authority over these plagues," signifies that on account of the delight of the love of self arising from vehement lusts of evils they did not acknowledge the Divinity of the Lord's Human, from which nevertheless flows all good of love and truth of faith. "And they repented not to give Him glory," signifies that on that account they cannot receive with any faith that the Lord is the God of heaven and earth as to His Human also, although the Word teaches it.

Verse 10. "And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the throne of the beast,"  signifies influx into their faith. "And his kingdom (church) became dark," signifies that nothing but falsities appeared.

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Verse 11. "And they gnawed their tongues for distress," signifies that they could not endure truths. "And they blasphemed the God of heaven for their distresses and for their sores," signifies that they could not acknowledge the Lord alone to be the God of heaven and earth on account of resistance from interior falsities and evils. "And repented not of their works," signifies that though instructed from the Word, they still do not recede from falsities of faith and the evils of life thence.

 Verse 12. "And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates," signifies influx into their interior reasonings, by which they confirm justification by faith alone. "And the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings from the rising of the sun might be prepared," signifies that the falsities of their reasonings were removed with those who are in truths from good from the Lord, and are to be introduced into the New Church.

Verse 13. "And I saw out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet," signifies the perception that from a theology founded upon the doctrine of the Trinity of Persons in the Divinity, and upon the doctrine of justification by faith alone without the works of the law. "Three unclean spirits like frogs," signifies that there arose mere reasonings and lusts of falsifying truths.

Verse 14. "For they are spirits of demons," signifies that they were the lusts of falsifying truths and of reasoning from falsities. "Doing signs, to go away unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them together to the battle of that great day of God Almighty,"signifies attestations that their falsities are truths, and the stirring up of all in the whole of that church who are in the same falsities, to attack the truths of the New Church.
 

Verse 15. "Behold, I come as a thief; happy is he that is awake and keepeth his garments," signifies the Lord's coming, and heaven then for those who look to Him, and remain steadfast in a life according to His precepts, which are the truths of the Word. "That he may not walk naked, and they see his shame," signifies lest they should be with those who are in no truths, and their infernal loves should appear.

Verse 16. "And he gathered them together into a place called in Hebrew Armageddon," signifies the state of combat from falsities against truths, and the disposition of destroying the New Church, arising from the love of dominion and supereminence.

Verse 17. "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air," signifies influx into all things together with them. "And there went forth a great voice out of the temple of heaven from the throne, saying, It is done," signifies that it was made manifest by the Lord, that all the things of the church were devastated, and that now the Last Judgment is at hand.

Verse 18. "And there were voices, and lightnings and thunders," signifies reasonings, falsifications of truth, and arguments from the falsities of evil. "And there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, such an earthquake, so great," signifies as it were shakings, convulsions, overturnings, and the drawing down from heaven of all the things of the church.

Verse 19. "And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell," signifies that the church as to doctrine was altogether destroyed by them, and so too all the heresies which have emanated from it. "And great Babylon came into remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the wrath of His anger," signifies the destruction also at that time of the dogmas of the Roman Catholic religion.

 Verse 20. "And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found," signifies that there was no longer any truth of faith, nor any good of love.

Verse 21. "And great hail as of the weight of a talent cometh down from heaven upon men," signifies direful and atrocious falsities, by which every truth of the Word and thence of the church was destroyed. "And they blasphemed God because of the plague of hail, for the plague thereof was exceeding great," signifies that because they confirmed such falsities with themselves, they denied truths to such a degree that they could not know them, on account of repugnances arising from their interior falsities and evils.

Harry

Pardon my ignorance, but who is Swedenborg, and why should anyone believe what it has to say, over what the scriptures speak of plainly??

If this guy has anything to do with the Lutheran church, say no more...........


Petro

 :'( Have not God's creation minds to explain for themselves?
Instead we see ream & reams of others 'junk'!
---John

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John here:
You need to watch your tongue in [this] post! :'(
It is contradictory of the Word of God! Read both the Lord's question & its answer in Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15

LOL You Guys Are Killing Me  ;D

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"LOOKING UP"

Eccl. 1:1-9 and Eccl 3:15 is in the Catholic Bible, because I have one. It was my grandmother's.Swedenborg's writings comes from the Lord through him, just like He spoke through the Prophets. Swedenborg add nothing to the Word.His writings helps us to better understand the Bible.

I understand that all wisdom is from God.Those who think other wise are eating the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, as in Genesis.God works through people.It is not for us to tell God who to choose.

Harry

Good for you....as the men above are twisting scripture around something awful. The scriptures have top priority, over any man made sayings.
  Besides...the Lutheran church is really an offshoot of the Catholic church.

All churches today are false, because they teach the doctrine of three Divine Persons,and faith without good works. God is one,in Person and in Essence.

Jehovah God came into the world and took on human form in order to put Himself into the power of subjugating the hells and of reducing to order all things both in the heavens and on earth.This was the work of redemption.

This humanity He put on over His prior humanity. The humanity that He put on in the world over His prior humanity was like the humanity of a person in the world, each being, however, Divine and  infinitely surpassing the finite humanity of angels and people.

Moreover, because He fully glorified His natural humanity even to the lasts of it, therefore He rose again with the whole body as no other person does.

The passion of the cross was to glorified His Human, and uniting it with His Divinity, so that the Divine and Human in Him become one. The cross was not redemption.

This was redemption:
By assuming this humanity Jehovah God,who was the Messiah in the Human, took on the limitless Divine power not only of subjugating the hells and reducing the heavens to order, but also of keeping the hells subjugated to eternity and saving humankind.

Harry

Who was God talking to when He said let US make man in our image'??

And at the tower of babel? Again, 'let US go down, and there confound their language'  

And Paul stated a truth so that one might not be the ignorant in 1 Cor. 10:1-4! That is ALL of us'ins at times, huh? :)
---John

John here:
There are two referances that were given! We will just skip your posts for 'i' passed the paciffier of Heb. 5 long ago! 'Us' mean one God?? Hog/Wash! You know, the Vomit of 2 Peter 2:19-22 stuff.

You best do a study of 2 Cor. 4:2! Forum if you believe this twisted stuff, you will believe about anything! :'( :'(

---John
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Genesis 11
And Jehovah came down. That this signifies judgment upon them, is evident from what has gone before and from what follows, and also from the signification of "coming down," when predicated of Jehovah; from what has gone before, in that the subject has been the building of the city and tower of Babel.

From what follows, in that the subject is the confusion of lips and of dispersion; from the signification of "coming down," when predicated of Jehovah, in that this is said when judgment takes place.

Jehovah or the Lord is everywhere present and knows all things from eternity; and therefore it cannot be said of Him that He came down to see, except in the literal sense, where it is so said according to the appearances with man.

But in the internal sense it is not so, for in this sense the subject is presented as it is in itself, and not according to the appearances; so that in the passage before us "to come down to see" signifies judgment.
 
Judgment is predicated of a state when evil has reached its highest, or, as it is termed in the Word, when it is "consummated," or when "iniquity is consummated."

For the case herein is that all evil has its limits as far as which it is permitted to go, but when it goes beyond these limits, it incurs the penalty of the evil.

This is so both in particular and in general. The punishment of evil is what is then called a judgment.

And because it appears at first as if the Lord did not see or observe that the evil exists-for when a man does evil without punishment, he supposes that the Lord troubles not Himself about the matter, but when he undergoes the penalty he begins to think that the Lord sees, and even that the Lord inflicts the punishment-it is therefore said, in accordance with these appearances, that Jehovah came down to see.
 
To "come down" is predicated of Jehovah, because "the highest" is predicated of Him, that is, He is said to be in the highest, and this too according to the appearance, for He is not in things highest but in things inmost, and this is the reason why in the Word what is highest and what is inmost have the same signification.

On the other hand, judgment or the penalty of evil takes place in lower and lowest things.

This explains why He is said to "come down;" as also in David:
 O Jehovah, bow Thy heavens and come down; touch the mountains and they shall smoke; cast forth lightning and scatter them (Ps. 144:5-6),
where the punishment of evil, or judgment, is signified.

In Isaiah:
Jehovah of Armies shall come down to fight upon Mount Zion, and upon the hill thereof (Isa. 31:4).

And again:
O that Thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at Thy presence (Isa. 64:1).
 
Here in like manner to "come down" denotes the penalty, or judgment, inflicted upon evil. In Micah:
Jehovah cometh forth out of His place, and will come down, and tread upon the high places of the earth, and the mountains shall be molten under Him (Micah 1:3-4).

Genesis 11:
Verse 7 Come, let us go down, and let us there confound their lip so that they do not hear each man the lip of his companion.
 
'Come, let us go down' means that judgement took place in this manner. 'And let us there confound their lip' means that nobody has the truth of doctrine. 'So that they do not hear each man the lip of his companion' means that all are at variance with one another.

That 'come, let us go down' means that judgement took place in this manner is clear from what has been stated above at verse 5 about the meaning of 'going down'.

The reason the plural is used -'let us go down and let us confound their lips'- is that the execution of judgement is meant, which is carried out by means of spirits, and in fact by evil spirits.
 
Harry
 
 

Jer, His writings always starts with,"And the word of Jehovah came unto me saying."

 Go ye out of the midst of Babel, O my people, deliver everyone his soul from the wrath of the anger of Jehovah, lest your heart become soft, and ye fear for the report (Jer. 51:45-46).

Flee from the midst of Babel, and deliver everyone his soul, lest ye be cut off for her iniquity (Jer. 51:6).

 Forsake Babel, and let us go everyone into his own land, for her judgment hath reached to the heavens, and hath lifted itself up even to the clouds (Jer. 51:9).

 Go ye out of Babel, flee from the Chaldeans with the voice of singing; declare this and make it to be heard; utter it even to the extremity of the earth; say ye, Jehovah redeems (Isa. 48:20-21; Jer. 50:8).

Harry


 

FORUM: John here,
if your want me to correct this 'Angel' stuff [from the Rev. 12 chapter], tell me so! Otherwise it is a wasted Vain subject!  
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It is contradictory to other scripture in the Bible to say when Christ comes. Only God knows this and it has not been revealed to man. Man is just told to be ready in Christ at all moments as He could come at any moment "as a thief in the night."


 2 Peter 3:9.  The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
 10.  But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
 11.  Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
 12.  Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
 13.  Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
 14.  Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
 15.  And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
 16.  As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
 17.  Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
 18.  But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

 

Your sooooooooo vain.

Gods Word For You JTB

2Cor. 11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

 

(Removed)

Your sooooooooo vain.

Gods Word For You JTB

2Cor. 11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
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HAVE A HAPPY SABBATH DAY CAIN!--John

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Verse 13.  Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

No, "we(you)" should not be in darkness we have been instructed to be ready so as to not be caught unready unaware for Christ's coming.


  Matthew 24:36. But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.
 37.  And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
 38.  For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
 39.  and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

Life went on, sin abounding, and they knew not when the flood would come and were not ready when the flood came. They knew when the flood came and took them all away.. So shall it be when Christ comes. Life will be going on, sin will abound, and only the ones found righteous, (ready), as Noah was will be saved.

Rev.16
Verse 1. "And I heard a great voice out of the temple, saying to the seven angels, Go, and pour out the vials of the anger of God into the earth," signifies influx from the Lord from the inmost of heaven into the church of the Reformed, where they are who are in faith separated from charity as to doctrine and as to life .  

Verse 2. "And the first went forth, and poured out his vial on the earth," signifies into those who are in the interiors of the church of the Reformed, and study the doctrine of justification by faith alone, and are called the clergy. "And there came an evil and noxious sore," signifies interior evils and falsities destructive of all good and truth in the church. "Upon the men that had the mark of the beast, and that adore his image," signifies in those who live faith alone and receive the doctrine of it.

Verse 3. "And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea" signifies influx among those there who are in its externals, and in that faith, and are called the laity. "And it became blood as of one dead, and every living soul died in the sea," signifies infernal falsity with them, by which every truth of the Word and thence of the church and of faith was extinguished.

 Verse 4. "And the third angel poured out his vial into the rivers and the fountains of waters," signifies influx into the understanding of the Word with them. "And they became blood," signifies the truths of the Word falsified.

Verse 5. "And I heard the angel of the waters saying," signifies the Divine truth of the Word. "Thou art just, O Lord, who art, and who wast, and art holy, because Thou hast judged these things," signifies that this is from the Divine Providence of the Lord, who is and who was the Word, which otherwise would be profaned.

Verse 6. "Because they have poured out the blood of saints and prophets," signifies that this is for the reason, that this alone, that faith alone without the works of the law saves, being received, perverts all doctrinal truths from the Word. "And Thou hast given them blood to drink, for they are worthy," signifies that it was permitted those who have confirmed themselves in faith alone in doctrine and in life, to falsify the truths of the Word, and to imbue their life from falsified things.

Verse 7. "And I heard another out of the altar, saying, Yea, O Lord God Almighty, true and just are Thy judgments," signifies the Divine good of the Word confirming that Divine truth.

 Verse 8. "And the fourth angel poured out his vial into the sun," signifies influx into their love. "And it was given him to scorch men with fire," signifies that love to the Lord tortured them, because they were in the lusts of evils from the delight of their love.

 Verse 9. "And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who hath authority over these plagues," signifies that on account of the delight of the love of self arising from vehement lusts of evils they did not acknowledge the Divinity of the Lord's Human, from which nevertheless flows all good of love and truth of faith. "And they repented not to give Him glory," signifies that on that account they cannot receive with any faith that the Lord is the God of heaven and earth as to His Human also, although the Word teaches it.

Verse 10. "And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the throne of the beast," signifies influx into their faith. "And his kingdom became dark," signifies that nothing but falsities appeared.

Verse 11. "And they gnawed their tongues for distress," signifies that they could not endure truths. "And they blasphemed the God of heaven for their distresses and for their sores," signifies that they could not acknowledge the Lord alone to be the God of heaven and earth on account of resistance from interior falsities and evils. "And repented not of their works," signifies that though instructed from the Word, they still do not recede from falsities of faith and the evils of life.

Verse 12. "And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates," signifies influx into their interior reasonings, by which they confirm justification by faith alone. "And the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings from the rising of the sun might be prepared," signifies that the falsities of their reasonings were removed with those who are in truths from good from the Lord, and are to be introduced into the New Church.

 Verse 13. "And I saw out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet," signifies the perception that from a theology founded upon the doctrine of the Trinity of Persons in the Divinity, and upon the doctrine of justification by faith alone without the works of the law. "Three unclean spirits like frogs," signifies that there arose mere reasonings and lusts of falsifying truths.

Verse 14. "For they are spirits of demons," signifies that they were the lusts of falsifying truths and of reasoning from falsities. "Doing signs, to go away unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them together to the battle of that great day of God Almighty," signifies attestations that their falsities are truths, and the stirring up of all in the whole of that church who are in the same falsities, to attack the truths of the New Church.

 Verse 15. "Behold, I come as a thief; happy is he that is awake and keepeth his garments," signifies the Lord's coming, and heaven then for those who look to Him, and remain steadfast in a life according to His precepts, which are the truths of the Word. "That he may not walk naked, and they see his shame," signifies lest they should be with those who are in no truths, and their infernal loves should appear.

Verse 16. "And he gathered them together into a place called in Hebrew Armageddon," signifies the state of combat from falsities against truths, and the disposition of destroying the New Church, arising from the love of dominion and supereminence.

 Verse 17. "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air," signifies influx into all things together with them. "And there went forth a great voice out of the temple of heaven from the throne, saying, It is done," signifies that it was thus made manifest by the Lord, that all the things of the church were devastated, and that now the Last Judgment is at hand.

Verse 18. "And there were voices, and lightnings and thunders," signifies reasonings, falsifications of truth, and arguments from the falsities of evil. "And there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, such an earthquake, so great," signifies as it were shakings, convulsions, overturnings, and the drawing down from heaven of all the things of the church.

Verse 19. "And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell," signifies that the church as to doctrine was altogether destroyed by them, and so too all the heresies which have emanated from it. "And great Babylon came into remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the wrath of His anger," signifies the destruction also at that time of the dogmas of the Roman Catholic religion (n. 713).

Verse 20. "And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found," signifies that there was no longer any truth of faith, nor any good of love.

Verse 21. "And great hail as of the weight of a talent cometh down from heaven upon men," signifies direful and atrocious falsities, by which every truth of the Word and thence of the church was destroyed. "And they blasphemed God because of the plague of hail, for the plague thereof was exceeding great," signifies that because they confirmed such falsities with themselves, they denied truths to such a degree that they could not know them, on account of repugnances arising from their interior falsities and evils.

Harry
 

     No verse of scripture is for private interpretation.

    Well lets see....The 7 vials are symbolic and are to be applied to the church that embraces "Faith Alone Salvation"....

    Wow, thats incredibe... I thought the vials were poured out and had the effects described in the Bible....Do you have a secret code book that explains all this? You must be a Prophet....(mumbling under my breath...False Prophet) and your here to reveal that all the judgements fall on believers who believe Jesus and the Bible that Faith Alone saves.....

    You've been chosen.....(mumbling under my breath...to be a false prophet)...to enlighten us to what the Bible REALLY says and to interpret for us....(mumbling under my breath...what about those who never heard of you... how are they supposed to understand without you to interpret for them)

    You have enlightened my mind....(mumbling...like David Koresh enlighten his followers minds, then ignighted their bodies)....Where do you live? I suppose I should move close by you so when ever I read the Bible you can explain what it really means to me...(mumbling...maybe I can get the code book instead)...I guess reading the Bible is a waste of time without you to explain it.................(mumbling in the voice of Foghorn Leghorn.. "The boy's about as sharp as a bowling ball")

    You should write a book explaining what God really meant....(mumbling...you should be afraid of adding to the Book of Revelation)....You should (mumbling... should be looking for aspestos diving gear for the lake of fire)...stop trying to teach falsely interpreting Scriptures.

    In all seriousness stop trying to be a prophet with an agenda against the Gospel of Grace. If you want to be under the law thats your choice but stop trying to deceive others with false private interpretations of Scripture, especially from Revelation. You speak as though your the authority and know for a fact your right. I'd repent before you find yourself on permanant vacation at Fire Lake.

                                                          Paul2

 The spiritual sense is in all things of the Word, and in every single particular of it. This cannot be better seen than by examples, such as the following.

John says in Revelation 19:11
I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse, and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True,and in righteousness He doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns, and He had a name written that no man knew but He Himself, and He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and His name is called the Word of God. And His armies in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. And I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried with a loud voice, Come and gather yourselves together to the great supper, that ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, and small and great (Rev. 19:11-18).
 
What these things signify cannot be known except from the spiritual sense of the Word, and no one can know the spiritual sense except from a knowledge of correspondences, for all the above words are correspondences,and not one expression in the Word is without meaning.  

From myself: How would the Christian Church explains these words in Revelation 19:11 and what they mean?

The knowledge of correspondences teaches what is signified by the white horse, what by Him who sat thereon, what by His eyes that were as a flame of fire, what by the crowns that were upon His head, what by His vesture dipped in blood, what by the white linen in which they were clothed who were of His army in heaven, what by the angel standing in the sun, what by the great supper to which they should come and gather themselves, and what by the flesh of kings, and captains, and others, which they should eat.

The signification of each of these things in the spiritual sense may be seen in White Horse, where they are explained, so that it is unnecessary to explain them further here.

In that little work it has been shown that the Lord in respect to the Word is here described; and that by His eyes which were as a flame of fire, and by the crowns that were upon His head, and by the name that no one knew but He Himself, is meant the spiritual sense of the Word, and that no one can know it but the Lord Himself and he to whom He wills to reveal it; and also that by His vesture dipped in blood is meant the natural sense of the Word, which is the sense of its letter, to which violence has been done.

That it is the Word which is thus described is very evident, for it is said "His name is called the Word of God"; and that it is the Lord who is meant is equally clear, for it is said that the name of Him who sat on the white horse was written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

That at the end of the church the spiritual sense of the Word is to be opened is signified not only by what is said of the white horse and of Him who sat thereon, but also by the great supper to which the angel standing in the sun invited all to come, and to eat the flesh of kings and of captains, of mighty men, of horses, and of them that sat on them, and of all both free and bond.

All these expressions would be empty words and devoid of spirit and life, unless there were what is spiritual within them, like soul in body.

Harry