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Title: Favored by God...
Post by: Bronzesnake on November 10, 2004, 02:53:36 AM
 The next time someone says "America is a damned nation" or an "evil" nation - remind them that America is favored by God.

 Moses was favored by God...Moses wandered through desert for forty years followed by a hoard of people who constantly rejected God even after being eye witnesses to many miracles. Moses lead his people through wars, and never did get to see the promised land.

 Four young Jews were favored by God, and were forced into a blazing furnace, one of them was lead into a lion's den for an entire night.

 Job was favored by God. Job suffered horrible afflictions and a loss of property and wealth.

 Joseph was favored by God. Joseph was despised and hated by his own brothers, who attempted to murder him by shoving him down a deep well. Once that failed, they sold Joseph into slavery. Joseph spent twelve years in a prison after being falsely accused.

 Mary was favored by God. Mary's boyfriend thought her to be an adulterer at one time. Mary's son was not born in a comfortable home, He was born in a barn. The Prince of Princes - Lord of Lords was not clothed in fine silks or adorned with rubys and gold - He was wrapped in swaddling cloth. Mary's son was marked for death by the king. Mary's neighbors sons were murdered in an effort to kill her own son. Mary had to flee to Egypt for several years to escape the killers. Mary saw her son, with spit running down His face, His beard torn out, and nailed to a cross to die.

 Being favored by God does not necessarily keep your enemies at bay or guarantee peace and prosperity. There are people who believe America is condemned by God because she has been attacked, and are at war. Such people do not understand God's M.O.

 Bronzesnake


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Shammu on November 10, 2004, 03:08:01 AM
AMEN, BRNZ ;D

As Brother Love would say......... 2 Thumbs Up.


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Bronzesnake on November 10, 2004, 03:15:58 AM
AMEN, BRNZ ;D

As Brother Love would say......... 2 Thumbs Up.

 Thank you long hair!  :D

Bronzesnake


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 10, 2004, 10:53:25 AM
Amen.



Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: felix102 on November 10, 2004, 01:38:40 PM
amen


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Jemidon2004 on November 10, 2004, 03:33:52 PM
Agreed. America is favored by God, also is Israel. It's evident that our Lord is merciful to America because He has allowed Bush to have another term in office. It's also evident that the Lord is merciful to America because we havn't been invaded and over-run. IN the OT, God punished the nation of Israel 2 times by having their nation invaded and the people put into captivity. Why? Because they wouldn't listen. America is favored by God at the moment, but how much longer? How much longer will it be before God takes His hand on this nation. God should have taken His hand away from this nation years ago, but He hasn't yet. Let us count our blessings that our Lord still has His hand on this nation and will be coming soon. Just a few things to think about.

In His Service,
Joshua


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Bronzesnake on November 11, 2004, 07:57:01 AM
Agreed. America is favored by God, also is Israel. It's evident that our Lord is merciful to America because He has allowed Bush to have another term in office. It's also evident that the Lord is merciful to America because we havn't been invaded and over-run. IN the OT, God punished the nation of Israel 2 times by having their nation invaded and the people put into captivity. Why? Because they wouldn't listen. America is favored by God at the moment, but how much longer? How much longer will it be before God takes His hand on this nation. God should have taken His hand away from this nation years ago, but He hasn't yet. Let us count our blessings that our Lord still has His hand on this nation and will be coming soon. Just a few things to think about.

In His Service,
Joshua

 Hi Joshua.

 God will deal with America after the rapture. If I was a betting man (I'm not) I'd say there are more Christians in North America than anywhere else on earth. Once we are gone, there will be an accounting of sins.

 Bronzesnake



Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Allinall on November 17, 2004, 12:26:59 PM
Amen Bro!  Although I'd say we're recipients of God's Grace.   :)


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Evangelist on November 17, 2004, 04:48:15 PM
Since about '80, the Lord has continually given me scripture to preach from, no matter where I have gone....recently, He brought it again to me, but this time with a difference, which I will note at the end, and also a great sense of urgency.

I think it is fitting not only to this discussion, but to our times. The italicized parts are the emphasis.

From Jeremiah 2.

Jer 2:5
Thus saith the LORD, What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me, and have walked after vanity, and are become vain?
6
Neither said they, Where [is] the LORD that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, that led us through the wilderness, through a land of deserts and of pits, through a land of drought, and of the shadow of death, through a land that no man passed through, and where no man dwelt?
7
And I brought you into a plentiful country, to eat the fruit thereof and the goodness thereof; but when ye entered, ye defiled my land, and made mine heritage an abomination.
8
The priests said not, Where [is] the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after [things that] do not profit.
9
Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I plead.

Previously, all of the verses were emphasized, but this time, He made a point of cutting off the last part of verse 9..."...and with your children's children will I plead."

It is as if He were saying, "this is your last shot, and the last generation....no more will I beseech you to walk rightly..."

FWIW, I preached it as a series....6 weeks. It also went on a weekly radio show in Austin.

Got some hate mail from it.   :'(

"My word shall not return void, but WILL accomplish the purpose wherewith it is sent."

"think not that I am come to bring peace, but to bring a sword..."


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: nChrist on November 17, 2004, 05:19:09 PM
Brother Hank,

I give thanks for you and your work for God, both here and elsewhere. It's becoming more and more apparent that servants of God will be attacked in doing HIS work. The more you do, the more you will be attacked. I will pray that God gives you strength to stand up and keep standing up until HE takes us home to Glory.

I think that it's time for all Christians to wonder about what they are doing if they aren't being attacked. If everything is going smooth and peaceful for a Brother or Sister in Christ, it's time for them to wonder if they are doing God's Will. We won't win popularity contests in talking about the curse of sin and death, but knowledge of sin is one of the first steps to Jesus and Salvation. We should quit worrying about people getting mad at us for telling the TRUTH of the Gospel of God's Grace. If we get knocked down in the effort, we can pray that God gives us strength to stand up and keep trying until our short lives here are over.

Brother, this sounds odd, but being attacked should put a smile on your face. If we have things all nice and easy, we are laying down on the job God has for us.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Evangelist on November 17, 2004, 05:52:37 PM
See my grin?
 ;D

The sad part is that MOST of the 'hate' is coming from so-called Christians and the panty-waist pillow prophets that pander to the itching ears so their pockets will be full.
(http://www.john812.com/img/explode.gif)


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: nChrist on November 17, 2004, 06:20:42 PM
Brother Hank,

I understand more than I want to about religious corporation business that should probably trade on the stock exchange. I've been completely spoiled all my life in a small and simple church building. Great treasures are in Jesus and Jesus is in our hearts, with or without the brick and mortar building. I remember many beautiful worship services under trees, in a tent, and in many simple places that God did provide.

Stubbing the toe of big corporate religion just might be a good thing.   ;D

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 17, 2004, 11:54:18 PM
Amen, Evangelist and blackeyedpeas, all good points.

I spent my childhood in a church building that was just the basement. My teenage years saw a lot of services held in an empty horse field when the basement was too small. Some of the best services I ever attended. God was there for sure.

I attended one sevice in later years in a church that was known to truck drivers as Fort Jesus. It was the coldest service I ever attended even though it was a 100+ degree day. The main subject that day was money not Jesus.

God bless you both, brothers.



Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: 2nd Timothy on November 18, 2004, 07:01:10 AM
Since about '80, the Lord has continually given me scripture to preach from, no matter where I have gone....recently, He brought it again to me, but this time with a difference, which I will note at the end, and also a great sense of urgency.

I think it is fitting not only to this discussion, but to our times. The italicized parts are the emphasis.

From Jeremiah 2.

Jer 2:5
Thus saith the LORD, What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me, and have walked after vanity, and are become vain?
6
Neither said they, Where [is] the LORD that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, that led us through the wilderness, through a land of deserts and of pits, through a land of drought, and of the shadow of death, through a land that no man passed through, and where no man dwelt?
7
And I brought you into a plentiful country, to eat the fruit thereof and the goodness thereof; but when ye entered, ye defiled my land, and made mine heritage an abomination.
8
The priests said not, Where [is] the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after [things that] do not profit.
9
Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I plead.

Previously, all of the verses were emphasized, but this time, He made a point of cutting off the last part of verse 9..."...and with your children's children will I plead."

It is as if He were saying, "this is your last shot, and the last generation....no more will I beseech you to walk rightly..."

FWIW, I preached it as a series....6 weeks. It also went on a weekly radio show in Austin.

Got some hate mail from it.   :'(

"My word shall not return void, but WILL accomplish the purpose wherewith it is sent."

"think not that I am come to bring peace, but to bring a sword..."

AMEN!!!


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Allinall on November 18, 2004, 09:21:10 AM
Since about '80, the Lord has continually given me scripture to preach from, no matter where I have gone....recently, He brought it again to me, but this time with a difference, which I will note at the end, and also a great sense of urgency.

I think it is fitting not only to this discussion, but to our times. The italicized parts are the emphasis.

From Jeremiah 2.

Jer 2:5
Thus saith the LORD, What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me, and have walked after vanity, and are become vain?
6
Neither said they, Where [is] the LORD that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, that led us through the wilderness, through a land of deserts and of pits, through a land of drought, and of the shadow of death, through a land that no man passed through, and where no man dwelt?
7
And I brought you into a plentiful country, to eat the fruit thereof and the goodness thereof; but when ye entered, ye defiled my land, and made mine heritage an abomination.
8
The priests said not, Where [is] the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after [things that] do not profit.
9
Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I plead.

Previously, all of the verses were emphasized, but this time, He made a point of cutting off the last part of verse 9..."...and with your children's children will I plead."

It is as if He were saying, "this is your last shot, and the last generation....no more will I beseech you to walk rightly..."

FWIW, I preached it as a series....6 weeks. It also went on a weekly radio show in Austin.

Got some hate mail from it.   :'(

"My word shall not return void, but WILL accomplish the purpose wherewith it is sent."

"think not that I am come to bring peace, but to bring a sword..."

There wouldn't perchance by an online audio file for this now would there?  I'd love to hear it!   :)


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Evangelist on November 18, 2004, 12:29:06 PM
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There wouldn't perchance by an online audio file for this now would there?  I'd love to hear it! 

Not online, I'm afraid. While I have them all on data disc's (not cd), I haven't put them together onto a cd yet...and, they are too big for me to try to put them up on my site...especially since I've run out of space and bandwidth. I might have to take the sites down if I can't find a way to get more space for no more money.  :-[

However....."for your love gift of .......(fill in the blank)"........ROFL.

Email me your address, and when I can get a CD burned I'll send it.....free!


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Bronzesnake on November 18, 2004, 01:15:24 PM
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There wouldn't perchance by an online audio file for this now would there?  I'd love to hear it! 

Not online, I'm afraid. While I have them all on data disc's (not cd), I haven't put them together onto a cd yet...and, they are too big for me to try to put them up on my site...especially since I've run out of space and bandwidth. I might have to take the sites down if I can't find a way to get more space for no more money.  :-[

However....."for your love gift of .......(fill in the blank)"........ROFL.

Email me your address, and when I can get a CD burned I'll send it.....free!

 Go to www.geocities.com (http://www.geocities.com) and sign up for the "free" web site. You can build an entire web-site for free, or continue to add more information for your present web-site on the free site and simply link it back. If you run out of bandwidth on the free site, just start another new one at geocities.

Bronzesnake


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Evangelist on November 18, 2004, 02:10:30 PM
Thanks Brnz, but .... been there, done that.

I've got over 200mb of files on two sites (one primary, one sub-domain), and there lies the major catch. I often get 100-150 visitors hitting at one time, and the "freebie" hosts limit that amount of "real-time same-time" bandwidth...which simply means 2/3rds of the visitors might (probably) get a "not available at this time" type message.

I'm trying to put the funds together to move hosting over to ArkWebs...not only are they Christian, but they offer 500mb storage with 5 gigs of transfer (bandwidth), so that would give me breathing room for awhile.


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: nChrist on November 18, 2004, 03:31:35 PM
Brother Hank,

Thanks for explaining. I never knew what that "not available at this time" message meant. I've gotten quite a bit of that on Christian Sites, and I just didn't realize they had exceeded their free transfer bandwidth and were cut off.

Brother, God will provide for what HE wants you to do. I'll try to help you with what I'm able. I'm more able with time and effort than I am money, but I'll do the best I can. Many people have received a blessing from your work, and I'm one of them. I give thanks that God is using you. I will definitely be praying for you and your ministry.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Favored by God...
Post by: Shemaya on December 06, 2004, 06:10:16 PM
I'm not sure God favors us,but he definitely doesn't hate us!That's a good thing.I think we're more blunt as Americans about are religion.And are pround to be christians.People at my school talk about God all the time.Today we were just talking about him so I'm happy. :) ;D ;)