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Title: why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today
Post by: Luke_westwood12 on October 25, 2004, 07:36:37 AM
why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today please tell me your views


Title: Re:why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today
Post by: Tim Vaughan on October 25, 2004, 10:14:58 AM
I see the incarnation, death and resurrection of Christ is the middle of history. In other words, the world got worse and worse from the fall to the time of Christ, just look at life spans, the descriptions of inferior Kingdoms in Daniel, etc.. and with the Passion and Glorification of Christ, the trend is reversed and we are slowly working back to the garden of Eden.


Title: Re:why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today
Post by: Kris777 on October 25, 2004, 10:24:57 AM
why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today please tell me your views

It was and still is important that Jesus died on the cross for our sins, because if He didn't then we would either all be giving burnt offerings or we would all end up in hell.   It is because of Jesus that all that except Him might live.  We can not save ourselves.  If you accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior then you are accepting that he took your place and paid the price for your sins.  His death is important because without Him we would be paying for our own sins.


Title: Re:why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today
Post by: LennyToo on October 29, 2004, 03:47:10 AM
I believe that the pattern of self sacrifice ,demonstrated and recorded for our benefit, are ageless as God knew the hearts of men, and that by nature we are self-serving. The examples of sacrifice as exactly that: examples to live by. While few of us will ever be required to fast for forty days...I scare says hardly any of us will by choice...even if compelled by the Holy Spirit. Why, because we don't want to deny ourselves pleasure. None of us will ever be required to become sin, nor bear a cross up the hill to our deaths; most of us won't even carry a meal to the shut-in down the street. We feel "entitled" to the unlimited hours that we spend watching TV, going shopping, to sport events, etc; afterall, we work hard and we "earn" our pleasure time.
Very few, however not all, face no threat of death for sharing the gospel of Christ with others, but because we allow fear of rejection to overtake our hearts, we disobey the word, and the spirit and do not speak of Christ outside our save "Christian" circle.
Oh, how sad...what if Christ, when found by the roman soldiers there in the garden, had said, Jesus of Nazareth? No, he isn't here. He just left....or words to that effect.
See, we often overlook the fact that Christ, as us, had freewill, but CHOSE the will of God first.
Self-sacrifice: the art of placing everyone else's needs, wants, concerns before those of our own. Good Mom's and Dad's know about this principle. I'm working on the part of not feeling bitter that it is never my turn...it's a middle-age thing, but I know God will supply me the grace to get through this phase in life.
May the Lord bless us with an undying desire to SERVE!!!!!


Title: Re:why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today
Post by: Symphony on October 29, 2004, 10:21:06 PM

I believe that the pattern of self sacrifice ,demonstrated and recorded for our benefit, are ageless as God knew the hearts of men, and that by nature we are self-serving. The examples of sacrifice as exactly that: examples to live by


Yes, LennyToo, thank you; we must love the Lord enough, and others enough, to want to sacrifice ourselves.

Like David and Goliath.  Do you notice it says there that David runs to meet Goliath?

that's how we must be, in our love for the Lord, and in our love for others...

In Jesus' Name...


Title: Re:why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today
Post by: Symphony on October 29, 2004, 10:26:46 PM

I believe that the pattern of self sacrifice ,demonstrated and recorded for our benefit, are ageless as God knew the hearts of men, and that by nature we are self-serving. The examples of sacrifice as exactly that: examples to live by


Yes, LennyToo, thank you; we must love the Lord enough, and others enough, to want to sacrifice ourselves.

Like David and Goliath.  Do you notice it says there that David runs to meet Goliath?

that's how we must be, in our love for the Lord, and in our love for others...

In Jesus' Name...


Title: Re:why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today
Post by: ollie on November 01, 2004, 03:11:41 PM
why do you think the self sacrifice of jesus is important today please tell me your views
For all have sinned and come short of God's glory and through Him we are saved from sin and the consequences of the same. Which is the wrath of God on those found in sin outside of Jesus Christ. We are redeemed to God and His glory.

It was not a self sacrifice , but for all.