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Title: God
Post by: Seven_Tides on June 21, 2003, 06:08:19 PM
God can not be explained in our terms. Imagining Him is just
far beyond our knowledge. And describing Him in our terms
would just be impossible, for our languages can not describe
such an unfathomable thing...

These are a few points about God

...For Him, time does not exist, for He is eternal. Time cannot
exist if God is eternal

...God does not need to think, for He knows everything we
have ever done, ever will do, and everything He will do. He
knew us before we were even created! ???

...God is divine

...God can create an infinite amount of things we can not
even imagine, for it is too unfathomable!

Any comments?


Title: Re:God
Post by: Krazeekkc on June 22, 2003, 06:18:46 PM
I agree!  ;)


Title: Re:God
Post by: Seven_Tides on June 22, 2003, 10:20:31 PM
Oh hi krazzeekkc. I didn't get a chance to say hello to you.

I see you are a christian!

God bless you brother ;D!


Title: Re:God
Post by: Brother Love on July 04, 2003, 06:09:32 AM
God can not be explained in our terms. Imagining Him is just
far beyond our knowledge. And describing Him in our terms
would just be impossible, for our languages can not describe
such an unfathomable thing...

These are a few points about God

...For Him, time does not exist, for He is eternal. Time cannot
exist if God is eternal

...God does not need to think, for He knows everything we
have ever done, ever will do, and everything He will do. He
knew us before we were even created! ???

...God is divine

...God can create an infinite amount of things we can not
even imagine, for it is too unfathomable!

Any comments?

Amen


Brother Love :)


Title: Re:God
Post by: Nostalghia on July 04, 2003, 10:38:10 AM
"God can not be explained in our terms. Imagining Him is just
far beyond our knowledge. And describing Him in our terms
would just be impossible, for our languages can not describe
such an unfathomable thing..."

Apophatism well done.  However, we can understand God only in His energies.

Love!



Title: Re:God
Post by: Petro on July 06, 2003, 06:54:17 PM
Nostalgia,

I can see where your coming from, more clearly know, little by little, as you post more and more, you reveal where your faith is.



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posted by Nostalgia in reply #4

Apophatism well done.



Imagine this.

Christians, need to stay clear of mystic teachings, they have no value whatsoever, and they certainly do not honor God.

Consider this site; for this mystic teaching;

http://www.monasticdialog.com/bulletins/67/bhajanananda.htm

Apophatism...................... denies the possibility of knowing and describing God in human terms, even going so far as to strip Him of the attribute of existence, thus leading  to  mysticism, which is nothing other than transforming knowledge into ignorance.

Ignorance of God and his will, for man.

This is evident when dealing with some individuals.

But speaking of God; Job says;

Chap 5
12  He disappointeth the devices of the crafty, so that their hands cannot perform their enterprise.
13  He taketh the wise in their own craftiness: and the counsel of the froward is carried headlong.

and, the Apostles tells us at;

1 Cor 3
18  Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19  For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20  And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.




Petro


Title: Re:God
Post by: Allinall on July 08, 2003, 01:50:37 AM
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Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith-- that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead.
Philippians 3:8-11

What can be known of God is found in His revelation to us concerning Himself - His Holy Word.  The depth of our knowledge is as deep as our desire to know Him.  The depth of our understanding is as deep as He gives us the discernment to attain.  Our God is knowable.  Can we then understand all that there is to understand about Him?  I don't think so.  He is far more complex than He even reveals to us.  However, to rest in that, is to rest in ignorance.  And what a shame!  He died that He might reconcile the sinner to Himself; that that sinner might know Him and the power of His resurrection; that in so doing He would be glorified.  Stand in awe of the complexity of our God - but never deny yourself the opportunity of growing in the very relationship He gave His life to give you.