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Any one else here like em? I know their bad but think PRAYER WORKS!! They would so great in the Christian stream or at least if they started singin good and got saved! A ROCK and KoRn fan(praying daily for them). ROCK ON Jon

Yeah, uh...Korn sucks.

Ya your entitled to your opinion..wrong maybe. But hey if you pray for and BELEIVE then they may go toward what you like.

Im kinda suprised you posted but anywho why is it that you always have something negative to say? With my first post you just made fun of my title and didnt even help me. Now you just say they suck not even Ill pray for them once. Didnt Jesus he's for the WHOLE world. Even murders much less KoRn.

First of all, any band whose lead singer screams into a mic that's only an inch away from his mouth while the rest of the band plays indecipherable riffs and bangs unrhythmically on a drumset with "corn" misspelled on the bass drum cannot be considered "good."

And if you want me to have any respect for YOUR opinion, than what's this all about?: Ya your entitled to your opinion..wrong maybe.

they may go toward what you like.

Even if they did, I wouldn't listen to them, because...well, they would have once been in Korn.

why is it that you always have something negative to say?

If you're asking me sincerely, the answer is because I think it's funny, and overall incites much more interesting responses, such as this one. I personally think that any message board that has nothing but posts and threads saying things like "Oh, yay, God is good" and "let's all make pointless threads in which no one disagrees with what we say" is not a fun one. I'm here to mix it up a little, or at least, I like to think I am.

If, however, you're patronizing me by asking that question, my answer would because I enjoy making you frustrated. Maybe it's due to the cynicism of my teenage mind. Maybe it's because I have a huge ego. Maybe, more specifically, it's because I don't like people who listen exclusively to nu-metal and dress in black hoodies and black pants studded with plastic spikes, and walk around the school with a scowl on their face, looking all depressed and deliberately anti-social, and since I can't judge you on anything other than the music you listen to, I can only assume that's the way you are.

With my first post you just made fun of my title

Haha, yeah...that was awesome. Not the title, my post.

Now you just say they suck not even Ill pray for them once.

I don't feel like getting into my prayer life right now, so I won't.

Didnt Jesus he's for the WHOLE world. Even murders much less KoRn.

*Sigh.*

Even if you're NOT going to use correct grammar, you could at least have the decency to proofread, if not for yourself, than for the people who may read your posts, so that it makes sense.

Regardless, yes, Jesus did die for the whole world. He is "for" the whole world, however you want to put it. I know. As far as I'm concerned, Korn are murderers for butchering the music scene, but yes, you're correct in saying that Korn is cared for by Jesus. Does it make any difference to me? No, not really, and I don't see what you're getting at. All I said was that Korn sucks. And now it's been drawn out to this. I'm sorry.

The musicians in KoRn are amazing. I try to avoid listening to them because of the dark aura surronding them, but I can appreciate good music when I hear it. Take care.

-Aiden-

Ben, You have got to work on getting past your shyness!
So what do YOU think of Korn?

 ;D

Was that really a "shy" response? Or are you being sarcastic? I guess I have trouble detecting sarcasm online if it's not my own.

What do I think or Korn? I hate their music, I hate their lyrics, I hate what they stand for.

Wow, I'm surprised you remembered my real name. Amazing.

Nah, I was just kidding! It didn't read 'shy' at all!   ;)

Out of the two guitarists one is missing his finger(an essential part of playing the guitar trust me I know cuz I take lessons) The drummer was recruited into the band at age 13!!!(HELLO that says something about his drumming.) The bassist is THE best out there. I have not heard a band put the bass guitar in the forefront. Usually there always in the background. And to Say Jonathan Davis screams into the mic is a little uneducated. If you want scream try Demon Hunter or Lamb of God. Jon

Out of the two guitarists one is missing his finger(an essential part of playing the guitar trust me I know cuz I take lessons)

Probably because he cut it off because he wanted attention. Or because he was trying to commit suicide because he thought no one liked him (which I'm sure he was right about) and missed his wrist.

The drummer was recruited into the band at age 13!!!(HELLO that says something about his drumming.)

It tells me that no good drummers wanted to degrade themselves by being associated with Korn, so they had to look for a kid that wanted money.

The bassist is THE best out there. I have not heard a band put the bass guitar in the forefront.

Well, since calling him the best is subjective anyway, I can just call him the worst and it would mean the same thing to someone who's never heard Korn before. It's not like it's hard to play bad bass. I could do it.

And to Say Jonathan Davis screams into the mic is a little uneducated.

Fine. He warbles into the mic. He makes ugly noise into the mic. He makes my eardrums bleed into the mic. I don't care, he still can't sing.

If you want scream try Demon Hunter or Lamb of God.

I really don't, thanks. I'll be sure not to try them out. Because they probably suck, too.

I notice you've decked out your profile and everything with praise for Korn. Is that to spite me? Good job, you look like an idiot you like nu-metal (changed at the risk of being complained about, even though both things mean the same thing to me).

haha Ben I take it?
I was going to do the same thing with the other people. I have a lot of korn music on my computer and  enjoy listening to it every so often.
but arguing for the sake of making things lively is good so yeah. otherwise boards aren't very fun :(

-Ralf

I'm not sure if I should be happy that you want to argue, or angry that you don't use grammar.

heh, well I never did really bother listening to how to use grammar correctly. also I'm too lazy to do the whole grammar thing :P after all it's that much extra effort required. As for the arguing thing? well meh I enjoy a good argument most of the time :)

-Ralf

Changing your name to KoRn RULES just to spite me is about the most adolescent thing you could possibly do, so now I WILL say it: you look like an idiot.

Also, you have to change your signature. I don't care if you fill it with Korn lyrics or whatever, just make it shorter. The way it is now, any post you make causes the entire layout to stretch, and it's really annoying to have to scroll back and forth. How many people do you think would actually click on the link, if it weren't broken? And I mean besides you. That's a big, fat zero. It's a waste of space and effort.

As for Ralf, I still don't see the "extra effort" as an excuse, because it would only take you an entire thirty seconds or less longer to make your posts look professional, but I appreciate that you enjoy arguing.

KornRules,
Make sure you aren't worshipping KoRn. Just because you are praying for them doesn't mean you should fill your mind with their lyrics. Obsession with anything other than Christ is evil so be forewarned. Not that I am positive that you idolize KoRN, but your posts, name, and signatures are all pointing in that directiong. Take care and guard your mind.

-Aiden-

Your true with that but im not worshipping them. I just cant find an alternative for them. I have agree with saph on the pillar thing. THEY SUCK(I also hate rap with a passion.) And the grammar thing is dumb to argue saph people can write any wAy they PLZ. If I have spited you good cuz if you take offense its not my problem. I dont have to worry about u. If I am wrong about my music preferences God will speak to me when Im on my nees before Him. I look forward to reading this every morning cuz saph man you provide my morning humor.(ALOT better than the c0m1cs) ROCK ON BROS Jon

And the grammar thing is dumb to argue saph people can write any wAy they PLZ.

True, but if you're trying to get me to pay any serious attention to what you say, you've failed by showing me you're too lazy to type out actual words. You people who abbreviate every single word are the epitomy of what this country's work ethic is becoming. Show some effort. Show some intelligence. Don't look like a illiterate fool who can't even rouse himself to make complete thoughts.

If I have spited you good cuz if you take offense its not my problem.

Well, you obviously have a problem with me if you go through all that trouble just to show you don't like me. Is that your way of getting rid of your problem? By doing things you know I hate? You've got a lot of learning to do, 'cause I'm not going anywhere.

I dont have to worry about u.

Frankly, I'd be worried if you did.

If I am wrong about my music preferences God will speak to me when Im on my nees before Him.

That's not only naive, but it's completely idiotic. First of all, to say what you said implies that you're unwilling to find out whether the music you're listening to is "right" or not, and that you'll just wait until it's too late to change if it actually IS wrong to find out. That's both lazy AND ignorant.

Secondly, I think God will have more important things to tell you than whether or not your music preferences were "right" or not. Besides, I never said you're wrong for listening to Korn, I just think there's much better things you could waste your money or time on. I'm not condemning you to hell. Get over yourself.

I look forward to reading this every morning cuz saph man you provide my morning humor.(ALOT better than the c0m1cs)

After you wake up, before you go off to your seventh grade classes? I seriously doubt that you actually find anything I say to be genuinely funny. I think you're just saying that, again, to try to incite some anger in me.

I'll ask you every single post I make to shorten your signature. This is not only because I don't want to look at it, but because it inconveniences everyone who reads this thread. Swallow what little pride you have and make it shorter.

THIS IS FUNNY!!! ;D I ACTUALLY LIKE THE LONG PAGES ITS WHAT IM USED TOO.APPERENTLY YOU THINK YOU KNOW ALL. ESPECIALLY WITH THE GOTH THING HOW DOES ONE WHO LISTENS TO PANSY..OHH SRY YOU CALL IT MUSIC LIKE THE GOO GOOD DOLLS KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OTHER MUSIC. HEY IF YOU DONT THINK I FIND IT FUNNY THIS IS FINE BY MOI. I DO AND THATS ALL THAT MATTERS.  :o :-*

THIS IS FUNNY!!!

No it's not, and I know you know it. You're just getting angry so you're trying to make me angry as well. I'm not an idiot; I've done it, I've seen other people do it.

I ACTUALLY LIKE THE LONG PAGES ITS WHAT IM USED TOO.

Well, for the sake of the people here, who AREN'T used to it and get annoyed by it (and I know I'm not the only person on this site who feels this way), I'm asking you politely to please shorten it.

APPERENTLY YOU THINK YOU KNOW ALL.

I do. Where have you been my past twelve posts?

At any rate, I know more than you.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE GOTH THING

Fine. Prove me wrong. What IS a goth, exactly? Since you seem to be so enlightened on the subject, it shouldn't be difficult for you to make a solid, and apparently contradictory definition in relation to mine.

HOW DOES ONE WHO LISTENS TO PANSY..OHH SRY YOU CALL IT MUSIC LIKE THE GOO GOOD DOLLS KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OTHER MUSIC.

You are, once again, being completely ignorant and asinine. I like almost every kind of music. Country, rock, emo, alternative, punk, progressive rock, even, to a certain extent, rap and classical. I like bands like Linkin Park and Evanescence, bands that could be considered similar to Korn. And still, I hate Korn. Explain to me, then, why I shouldn't be allowed to have a negative opinion on Korn? It's not like I've never heard them. I have. They suck.

HEY IF YOU DONT THINK I FIND IT FUNNY THIS IS FINE BY MOI. I DO AND THATS ALL THAT MATTERS.

If all that mattered was what you thought about things, this world would be one huge failure.

Oh, and I think you may have accidentally had your Caps Lock button on. It'd be nice if you could turn it off next time.

*Prepares for another all-upper-case post.*

 ;D :) ;) 8) :-*Oh trust me if the world was run by what I think! The Germans wouldve won WWII. We would have problem countries like Iraq,China,Russia and the like. Dont worry man I find it funny. For you to worry about it is startin to scare me. You must really be interested in me. BACK OFF man I gots a gurl already(trust me dont need a guy.) Dont forget to kiss the mirror for your goodnight kiss.

Ok I think you're taking it a bit far. fair enough a simple disagreement but personal insults aren't very nice. also Sapphire weapon despite the fact yours are more refined it's probably a good idea to stop em too.

-Ralf

The Germans wouldve won WWII. We would have problem countries like Iraq,China,Russia and the like.

Are you a Nazi? Or are you just one of those leftist slimeballs who hates America?  

For you to worry about it is startin to scare me.

Where did I say that I actually DO worry about anything? Please, point it out.

You must really be interested in me. BACK OFF man I gots a gurl already(trust me dont need a guy.)

I refuse to stoop this low, but I would like to point out to anyone who may be viewing this thread as a third party or bystander the significance of this particular line. Being somewhat literate in the field of psychology, I can recognize this as the point where KoRn RULES realizes I've proved points he cannot refute, so he is attempting to divert attention from the original topic by taking cheap shots at me.

Did that sound sopisticated, or what?

Dont forget to kiss the mirror for your goodnight kiss.

Don't worry. By now, it's routine.

Again, KoRn RULES, please shorten your signature. It's distracting and somewhat aggrivating.

Sapphire weapon despite the fact yours are more refined it's probably a good idea to stop em too.

I'll stop when either KoRn RULES learns how to debate and engages me in a civilized one, then proves me wrong or admits that he is wrong, or just stops posting altogether.

 ;D ;) :) :-*  Not a Nazi(Just German and darned proud of it.) Although that is a nickname at school.

That's the most humane thing you've said this entire thread.

Please shorten your signature.

I have know idea what they're singing so I really don't listen to them or have any idea what they sing about

Well I'm sure my opinion will go down like a lead balloon here.. but here goes anyway.

From my own experience I can tell you that you must be extrememly careful what musical listening habits you form as a teenager. I got into heavy metal and "dodgy" music as well as lots of other stuff, and being a songwriter and musician, I'm sure you can see why. I used to use the reasoning of "theres no skilled music out there" to justify listening to music that was totally ungodly. I was wrong and foolish to do that. I think the uprising of heavy rock music has been one of the most dangerous things for teenagers since the 60's. All it stands for is the world, and the worlds music, and the worlds values.

There are "Christian" bands who play metal too. I realise this. All this is, is an attempt to immitate the world. Seriously. Most "Christian metal" bands are jsut poor clones of their wordly counterparts and I believe are an insult to God. I personally used to create music like this, and had to repent of it. I invariably discovered that, as much as I pretended otherwise, that music never brought me nearer to God, it drove me away from Him, causing me to be more uncontrollably into the music than anything else. I'm not saying I went mad headbanging etc.. it is often more subtle than that. It promotes within you a heart attitude of rebellion, which ion God's eyes is equal to the sin of witchcraft.

I still like heavy music, and to a degree still have a small amnount in my collection, but as I feel convicted I am getting rid of it, and certainly listen to it far less often than I used to.

When you get rid of stuff though, you have to have something to replace it with, be it a closer walk with God, or other non offensive skilled music. I realise that this is a contravercial topic, and I'll probably be misunderstood and roasted for this opinion, but neverthless, its what I have found to be true in my life.

I appreciate your ability to present your opinion on this topic without condemning/judging those with opposing views...something I gotta work on, I guess.

Anywho, I'd agree with you, but only to a point. I see lots of older people and teenagers like me who listen to secular music and walk with God as close as people who listen to Christian music or none at all. I think that it depends upon how easily influenced the person is, or how devoted they are, but I think the people you see who turn away from God or don't walk with him at all do so for reasons that are bigger or more prominent than their musical tastes, though it seems to be a frequent "symptom," for lack of a better term.

I know what you're saying Saphire, and I half agree. If people are not walking with God, then yes there is usually a bigger problem than simply the music they listen to. I also think though that you can't assess whether something is right or wrong by looking at what other people do. Firstly, whats right is not always popular, and whats popular is not always right.. and secondly you don't know their heart. You really don't know what their relationship with God is like beyong the image you see of them.

You described listening to the music in question as a "symptom" and say that it depends how "devoted" they are. Well, with all due respect, I feel that one should not live his Christian life in spite of his interests. Why have somethign in your life that proves a stumbling block to you?

For the same reason I hardly watch TV anymore because its just another way for Satan to directly pump evil thoughts and images into my mind.

The biggest grievance I have is not actually with the secular metal bands.. their music is ungodly, but they do not know the truth, so I don't expect them to have the same opinions and values as me. What does sicken me though is the relatively recent move by Christians towards wordly music. I realise that one can take this a little too far, and on that count I suppose its just a matter of personal conviction, but I feel the Holy Spirit is grived by "Christian  Death metal, black metal, heavy rock" and a few other sorts of music. It imitates the world, and usually poorly at that.

It was mentioned that some bands have "sold out"... why do you think that is? I'm not talking record sales here.. hehe

I believe its because they have stepped into the world when God is saying to Christians:

Revelation 18:4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

You described listening to the music in question as a "symptom" and say that it depends how "devoted" they are. Well, with all due respect, I feel that one should not live his Christian life in spite of his interests. Why have somethign in your life that proves a stumbling block to you?

I describe it as a "symptom" because I couldn't think of a more descriptive term. For example, people who turn away from God frequently listen to secular music, but I believe the music itself generally has very little impact on their spiritual decisions. I could be wrong, of course, and this kind of scenario certainly doesn't apply to everyone. It depends on if they raise it above God and make it too much a part of their life. If they can listen to secular music without compromising their walk with God, I don't see much of a problem. They have to keep both things in check, in any case.

Either way, we can agree at least halfway, and I'd say that's about as good as you can get with me.

Hehehe. Well i've done well then in that case. I think all ungodly things that one exposes themselves to have a negative impact on the spiritual life, whether we know it or not. Feeding the flesh rather than the spirit.

I believe that we are not aware of half the effects of these things. Also, we may not feel different, but God commands us to stay away from unclean things. Heavy metal music, or at least the vast majority of it promotes ungodly values. the music itself tends to stir up aggression aswell, I know how it used to make me feel anyway.