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Why do you think that way?

I myself, think the UN-EU are the biggest threat to the world today. You know about the UN hit squads. Mr Annan's viewpoint on the value of EU participation, "particularly military action",  Is worth watching.

Funny that you're quick to say that the EU is a great enemy, yet ignore the fact that the same people who set it up set up Not Only the UN, but the Council on Forign Relations, the Royal Institue of International Affaris, the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Reserve Bank (Which is Privatly owned, might I add), and have insitituted two of their 322 division members John F. Kerry and George W. Bush into the canadacy for President of the United States.

"The CFR [Council On Foreign Relations, New York City] is the American Branch of a society which originated in England and believes national directives should be obliterated and one-world rule established. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted in the early 1960's to examine its papers and secret records... I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known".
Dr. Carroll Quigley, Professor of International Relations, Georgetown University Foreign Service School, Washington, D.C., author of the epic "Tragedy & Hope", advocate of one-world government and personal mentor of President William Clinton (who acknowledged Professor Quigley during his 1992 presidential inauguration speech)

Edit: Let me add on to that quote with a few more.

"We shall have world government whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent".
James Paul Warburg, Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations, 1921 - 1932, before the U.S. Senate, February 17, 1950

"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas".
Brock Chisolm, former Director of the World Health Organization

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of US. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government".
Chester Ward, Rear Admiral and former Navy Judge Advocate 1956 - 1960 and CFR member for 15 years

 I agree Dream Weaver The EU and UN are a more organized Terriost group.

Me

I always thought it was me, since I became a believer ;D THE WORLD HATES ME ;D AS DOES THE GOD OF THIS WORLD ;D

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huh?

The biggest organization in this world that is our enemy is Satan and his minions. Who are these minions? You have named a few already. It is anyone that is doing his work for him.

Sometimes we are our own worst enemy. When we as Christians do nothing and sit back and say "God will take care of it all". We don't vote in our govn't elections, or if we vote, we don't do so according to Biblical principles. We allow un-Godliness to continue around us without even so much as speaking up against it.

You know the EU is strange....*sigh* but i supose quite a few people are scared of the USA, because of its status as the only true superpower.

Of course how much do you americans know about the EU?

Anyway some points about the EU that i think may go to americans heads.

I have never had a definite answer on wether Russia would be allowed to join, the problem being its mostly situated in asia, yet its captail is in Europe, and thats where it began (in Europe)

The EU seems to have no bounds a while back ( a year or two ago) i heard someone speculate on wether the rich north of africa would be able to join...

Any way knowing that for some reasons the British hate this loss of identity for some reason, i thought i know why don't we make this a three way game and have the Common Wealth (ex-British Empire) as an alliance similar to the USA and EU

Then you have a 1984 situation

LOL !!!   I'd wager you are a very nice person.  

Peace

Alnilam

Well, yes. Buts lets keep that between us, ok?

It's not a who it's a what and that's
Apathy

Suz

Outside of Satan, the biggest threat to the world today are the neocons, a group of a few dozen people, mostly of Eastern Jewish Trotskyite background who are running American foreign policy. They are socially liberal, e.g. they are in favor of large scale third world immigration, abortion, etc..and have a particular hatred of traditional American Christian conservatives, e.g. their attack on Trent Lott when he praised Strom Thurmond.

To learn more about them, you can use keywords like "architect" "Iraq" "war" at google.

 Dont forget the liberal democrats that are in office they are in favor of the same thing that is why our borders are out of control because of the democrats. I never heard of the Trostskyite. even though i love the jewish people and am a Zionist i do know  secular jews are more liberal than the people in the united states.

Michael

There was an early split in the ranks of top Communists. Stalin one the one hand wanted to consolidate the winnings of the movement, and the Jewish Trotsky wanted to expand the Revolution until it took over everything. Stalin won, had Trotsky murdered, but some of his disciples became active in the US. This is the reason that we are engaged in "nation building" right now in the Mideast, it is part of the Trotskyite philosophy of violently forcing others to accept your political system.

Eastern Jewish Trotskyite?

Now I understand all your posts.

Jews of Eastern European decent, and influenced by followers of Trotsky. People like Wolfowitz, etc.. Strauss is another name you hear, although he was from central Europe.  Here are some links


http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Neoconservatism-(United-States)


http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/N/Neoconservatism-(United-States).htm



http://www.lewrockwell.com/gottfried/gottfried47.html

The last quote is from Paul Godfreid, the most intelligent of the Jewish commentators out there. No one with even a smattering of current politics is unaware of this.

Hi,

I agree that the neocons are a great peril, their worldview of the imperial US standing over all the world is quite scary.  For instance, you hear all the time that the US is the world's only superpower.  Well Communist China could potentially put an army of about 350,000,000 fighting men in the field.  In addition, they have WMD.  The neocon view of China would say that we must dominate them militarily, not through negotiation or capitulation.  

This is of great concern to me, because there is no way to bring about the neocon world view without taking my children.

Far from being Christian, the neocons seem to take their worldview from Herbert W. Armstrong.  The US is God's chosen (Armstrong said the US and Britain were lost tribes of Israel) country, that our government is so good, so universal, it is our mission to take over the world.

As God's chosen, they don't think they can loose.  That's part of what makes Bush's supposed statement that we could go into Iraq without casualties believable.

Marv

Thanks, Marv, someone who's been reading.

Is there a special school that crazy conpsiracy people got to?

The biggest enemy in the world is the world.

Ourselves.

My biggest enemy is me.

Yes, they are taught that Saddam had WMD and was involved in 9/11, and they are taught that the neocons have no influence on US foreign policy.

Umm question, how do you realize that your not crazy? As in Accept it?

Symphony makes a very good point. As James says, don't blame wars and strife on the Devil, they come from the human heart.

also,

There was an early split in the ranks of top Communists. Stalin one the one hand wanted to consolidate the winnings of the movement, and the Jewish Trotsky wanted to expand the Revolution until it took over everything. Stalin won, had Trotsky murdered, but some of his disciples became active in the US. This is the reason that we are engaged in "nation building" right now in the Mideast, it is part of the Trotskyite philosophy of violently forcing others to accept your political system.    
 
That's interesting.  The Jews in the last 100 years or so, it seems have had a definite liberal bent - to wit, betraying their brethren in Germany in the Holocaust?  

I thot perhaps it was more than a handfull.  Isn't the former Israelii Prime Minister (Perez?) pretty liberal, willing to trade West Bank soil for concessions, etc.

But anyway, isn't American nation-building larger than just a Jewish picture?   Just our insatiable appetite for oil, and the stupid fact we've failed to deal with our own foreign dependency now for 30 years -  ::) - would seem to dictate a very vested interested in protecting foreign oil, or an ally near that oil(Israel)?

But you're calling them neocons - would they really be 'conservative'.  I'd tend to see them as extreme liberals - the socialist Jew, or communist, etc.

But I agree that the neocon type your are profiling would certianly seem to be the type of mold for an antichrist - that's exactly what your description would imply - anti-Christ.  Or, anti - anything, just about, it would seem.

Thanks for your thoughfulness. If you permit, I will wait until tomorrow to anwer you.