Title: LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: clirus on August 30, 2004, 04:37:08 PM LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America)
We have a Godless government because we elect Godless politicians, who appointed Godless judges, who make Godless laws. The Godless liberal news media provides propaganda for the Godless government. Godless colleges and universities provide indoctrination into Godless liberalism. Funding for the Godless politicians is provided by hollywood, lawyers, homosexuals, environmentalists, unions and minorities. The Godless government subsidizes Godless people through grants, studies, welfare and special privileges, to get votes that will insure the Godless left wing conspiracy is continued. The Godless government has become the god of the atheist, where social, economic and health issues are more important than moral issues. This Godless process can be ended in the voting booth by those who trust God. The first test of any candidate and their political party should be Biblical principals, then what they intend to do about worldly issues. If the candidate does not pass the Biblical principals test, then there is no basis to believe the promises (or lies) about worldly issues. No Christian should vote for a person in the democratic party because of the support of abortion and homosexuality. The most important thing that needs to be done is the formation and support of a Christian based news media which will expose the democratic party and other ungodly organizations. The liberal news media greatly influences both domestic and foreign policy by constantly reporting only bad news about Christians, conservatives and Republicans and only good news about atheists, liberals and democrats. There is no way to change these people, but the whole truth can be told instead of the half truths that benefit the ungodly. Every Christian should financially support Christian based news media. The judicial system of America must be changed. Too few unelected people are in control of too much. The legislative aspect of legal decisions must have checks and balances. Constitutional interpretation must be eliminated from the judicial system and made a voter issue. The present judicial system represents, "legislation without representation". Christians should actively oppose the ACLU and not support any lawyer who contributes to or is a part of the ACLU. The attempt by the judicial system to eliminate America's Christian Heritage is intolerable. America was founded as a Christian nation that tolerated the practice of all religions. The laws of America and the Constitution are based on the Christian Religion. Every Christian should support a Constitutional amendment that establishes the religious heritage of the United States of America has been and is the Christian Religion as described in the King James version of the Bible. The next most important thing is for Christians to boycott Godless activities and funding sources. Many activities should be avoided because of the sin factor, but other organizations should be boycotted because they provide funding and support to the Godless. An example is General Electric which owns NBC news and Disney which owns ABC news. No Christian should contribute to PBS. CBS (Viacom) and CNN (AOL Time Warner) make their money from pornography thus they should already be boycotted. A major revenue source for the liberals is pornography. Since the judicial system cannot define pornography the American people must regain control. Local community standards are constantly violated. Instead of people having to protect their children, the pornographers should be held to proving their pornography does not reach children. Christians should support giving the FCC control of all communication modes which include television, cable, satellite, Internet and movies. Last, but not least, preachers need to preach against sin and sinners. Too much preaching is done for perfecting the saints instead of warning and preparing the saints for the war with Satan that exists every day we are on this earth. A key item to this is the passage of the "Houses of Worship Free Speech Restoration Act" (H.R. 235). II Chronicles 7:14 states, "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." I believe the statements above are consistent with II Chronicles 7:14. Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Bronzesnake on August 30, 2004, 04:56:33 PM clirus...
Great post. I live in Canada, but we have many of these same problems here. I do believe that Christians in general are too "nice" to get riled up enough to make any real change occur. If, for example, there was something offensive towards the Islamics - they would be screaming mad, and they would definitely let it be known...same goes for atheists...they don't like God mentioned anywhere except Church, and our governments have pandered to this huge minority, and taken God out of almost all public places. Even Nativity scenes at Christmas are no longer allowed...it's ridiculous! No Ten Commandments in schools or courthouses! Where is the outrage from Christians? It's almost non existence, and that is very sad indeed! The reason these things are allowed to happen is that the "god" of this world is still in control...but that's quickly coming to an end...When Jesus returns, all things will be made right. In the mean time, we Christians should demand to our governments, at all levels, that God's ways take precedent over all other considerations...will this make it all better? no - but at least we're not just standing around flying kites while the entire world falls into satans lap. Bronzesnake Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Evangelist on August 30, 2004, 05:05:29 PM Quote The most important thing that needs to be done is the formation and support of a Christian based news media which will expose the democratic party and other ungodly organizations. The liberal news media greatly influences both domestic and foreign policy by constantly reporting only bad news about Christians, conservatives and Republicans and only good news about atheists, liberals and democrats. There is no way to change these people, but the whole truth can be told instead of the half truths that benefit the ungodly. Every Christian should financially support Christian based news media. CHRISTIAN NEWS!!! (http://masterstable.john812.com) I await your support!! ;D Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Alnilam on August 31, 2004, 12:53:56 PM Quote :
We have a Godless government because we elect Godless politicians ...... George Bush is godless ? Peace Alnilam Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Shammu on September 01, 2004, 01:15:37 AM Quote : Thats what I was thinking, Alnilam. ;DWe have a Godless government because we elect Godless politicians ...... George Bush is godless ? Peace Alnilam Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Alnilam on September 01, 2004, 12:40:33 PM Glad I am not alone DreamWeaver. The godless judges remark was interesting too, perhaps Clirus was thinking of Scalia, or Thomas, or maybe Roy Moore ?
Peace Alnilam Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Evangelist on September 01, 2004, 12:44:47 PM FWIW....I think if you stood all the politicians and all the judges up side by side, then weighed them in the balances, you would find the liberal & godless side to be far heavier than the other. Of course, there would be a few in the side that's so much closer to the heavens.
Guess that makes them "head and shoulders" above the rest, eh? ;D Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Alnilam on September 01, 2004, 02:04:53 PM Guess that makes them "head and shoulders" above the rest, eh?
LOL - I like that ! I suppose we could also take all the economists in the world and lay them head to toe and still never reach a conclusion ! ;D Peace ! Alnilam Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Brother Love on September 01, 2004, 02:12:00 PM Is God on the Right Wing? ;D
Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Evangelist on September 01, 2004, 02:30:52 PM Quote Is God on the Right Wing? Hmmm....actually, I think He's got us surrounded. ;) Quote suppose we could also take all the economists in the world and lay them head to toe and still never reach a conclusion ! That's true....they'd be too busy counting the dust grains on the soles of the next economists feet. Did you know that the International Fellowship of Economists and Accountants has adopted a new song for their "Beancounters Ball"? "beans, beans, the musical fruit............." 8) Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Shammu on September 01, 2004, 05:07:49 PM Guess that makes them "head and shoulders" above the rest, eh? ;D Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: digme on September 02, 2004, 08:07:03 AM LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) We have a Godless government because we elect Godless politicians, who appointed Godless judges, who make Godless laws. The Godless liberal news media provides propaganda for the Godless government. Godless colleges and universities provide indoctrination into Godless liberalism. Funding for the Godless politicians is provided by hollywood, lawyers, homosexuals, environmentalists, unions and minorities. The Godless government subsidizes Godless people through grants, studies, welfare and special privileges, to get votes that will insure the Godless left wing conspiracy is continued. The Godless government has become the god of the atheist, where social, economic and health issues are more important than moral issues. This Godless process can be ended in the voting booth by those who trust God. The first test of any candidate and their political party should be Biblical principals, then what they intend to do about worldly issues. "If the candidate does not pass the Biblical principals test, then there is no basis to believe the promises (or lies) about worldly issues." "No Christian should vote for a person in the democratic party because of the support of abortion and homosexuality." " Every Christian should financially support Christian based news media." The next most important thing is for Christians to boycott Godless activities and funding sources. "Many activities should be avoided because of the sin factor, but other organizations should be boycotted because they provide funding and support to the Godless." An example is General Electric which owns NBC news and Disney which owns ABC news. No Christian should contribute to PBS. CBS (Viacom) and CNN (AOL Time Warner) make their money from pornography thus they should already be boycotted. A major revenue source for the liberals is pornography. Since the judicial system cannot define pornography the American people must regain control. Local community standards are constantly violated. Instead of people having to protect their children, the pornographers should be held to proving their pornography does not reach children. Christians should support giving the FCC control of all communication modes which include television, cable, satellite, Internet and movies. Last, but not least, preachers need to preach against sin and sinners. Too much preaching is done for perfecting the saints instead of warning and preparing the saints for the war with Satan that exists every day we are on this earth. A key item to this is the passage of the "Houses of Worship Free Speech Restoration Act" (H.R. 235). II Chronicles 7:14 states, "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." I believe the statements above are consistent with II Chronicles 7:14. My friend, and brother in Christ in your first sentence you missed a big point and everybody in these forums are missing that point... i have tried to mention it a thousand times but people are ignoring it like I never ever wrote anything. You are assuming Mass Morality comes before individual piety, your first 3 sentences are enough to give that conclusion (and i did read your whole article)... if need be i will disect it for you... I suggest you read Joel 2 before you go to that Chronicles passage. Everybody likes to run to that... when in fact God wants us first to weep and moan for those that are lost... 2) by all what you say above, you are also negating God's soverignity.. . and that will also be easy for me to point it out to you... i am not here to do that though... i have one question for you... -- Ask yourself an honest question, how much do i really want the truth- even if it meant having to take agree with those you think are unholy and enemies... Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: clirus on September 05, 2004, 07:45:15 AM To digme
digme quote My friend, and brother in Christ in your first sentence you missed a big point and everybody in these forums are missing that point... i have tried to mention it a thousand times but people are ignoring it like I never ever wrote anything. You are assuming Mass Morality comes before individual piety, your first 3 sentences are enough to give that conclusion (and i did read your whole article)... if need be i will disect it for you... I suggest you read Joel 2 before you go to that Chronicles passage. Everybody likes to run to that... when in fact God wants us first to weep and moan for those that are lost... 2) by all what you say above, you are also negating God's soverignity.. . and that will also be easy for me to point it out to you... i am not here to do that though... i have one question for you... -- Ask yourself an honest question, how much do i really want the truth- even if it meant having to take agree with those you think are unholy and enemies... Reply Joel 2 discusses the wrath of the Lord the method of revival for the Jewish people. Certainly America is in need of revival also. I do not know how to start that revival, but I do know how to vote. I know God is sovereign, but God gave Christians America and the right to vote, so that we may testify to the world by the way we vote. I do not think God will be pleased if America becomes a pagan nation. The reason I quote II Chronicles is that many Christians think that only prayer is required for God to heal the land, but I think God is waiting on Christians to use the tools (vote, freedom of speech, financial resources) that God has provided. I pray I will never agree with anyone that is unholy. I do listen to other opinions, and I give other opinions credence if the opinion is backed by the Bible. The purpose of this topic is to point out to Christians that there many problems facing America. The democratic party, the news media, the judicial system, and appeasement preachers. But I also believe that Christians can regain control, if that is God's will for America. I consider my involvement in politics as a testimony. Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: felix102 on September 06, 2004, 07:43:31 PM Hey clirus. I hope you continue to be involved with us! I have to disagree with some points in your post.
I will be back to update. Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: digme on September 17, 2004, 07:35:49 AM brother clirus,
i don't really know what your intentions are. For what it seems to me, most of the folks that write in these forum threads about politics want to gong an empty barrel. You know what happens when you hit an empty barrel? just noise, that's all. There's no real sense of discussion- only mockery and when there is a different opinion, an instant jumping into conclusion, or outright plain ignorance for one would have to decide when some different opinion sheds light, either he/she would have to be cynical and walk away like Pilate, or flat out concort the message to dilute it- like Felix. You know why Prayer is the most important thing- AGAIN I SAY, INDIVIDUAL PIETY PRECEDES MORALITY... I suggest you are only saying the moral attitude of this country through the course of government, and our laws is the right way to do it, when in fact that won't do us any good. I want you to think about the above staement hard, and come back to me if it is wrong... the prophet books are exempliary of that statement.. Praryer connects us to the source of our piety- the Holy One- and only then will we be right, in any sense or form... DONT BE DECIEVED INTO THINKING AMERICA USED TO BE THIS AND THAT... I BET GOD's PROBLEM IS NOT AMERICA, RATHER THE INDIVIDIUALS IN THE LAND WEST OF THE ATLANTIC OCEAN... All in all i have the same concern, just a little different way of thinking to what the solution is... and i say it with all honesty in my heart,- I pray that most of you guys will at least accept that Man's methods ways and means will account to nothing- only would create problems... Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: Xith on September 23, 2004, 06:49:20 PM Wow! First off, I'm not a Christian. So I will definitely not try to quote any scripture here, because odds are I would get it all wrong. I was actually just wandering the net reading boards when I came across this one (registered just a second ago to post actually).
Anyways, I felt I really had to answer this. To start, I'm a democrat (at least registered as one, but not too happy with my parties choice at the moment), though I don't harbor any ill will to republicans, I like some of their policies its just democrats won me over with some others (mainly tax issues). To begin, I really have to agree, this government is Godless (mostly), and it is supposed to be. Not meaning it to be an abomination or a curse against religion. But its purpose was to not reflect the views of religion in the everyday runnings of the country. It was done this way because of the persicution laid down upon those in England who didn't conform to their views. We started anew here vowing to never misrepresent anyone, and to never force our views on those who don't follow them. We are the impartial country, the place where all people can freely come and believe whatever they want. Yes a large majority of it is Christian (as it has always been), but why does that mean government should cater to them? Do we wish to repeat the mistakes of the past, by alienating our own people? In my opinion, I think both sides need to step back and evaluate the situation. In fact, the mere fact that there are such divided sides should tell everyone something. Republican and Democrats should not be fighting in this way, it is wrong of both sides to continue this way. Now I understand issues are at hand, and of course we have big disagreements. I'm a researcher, I work with computers and study in artificial intelligence and robotics. My goal in life is to help people with faster systems to diagnose problems, and mechanical replacements for lost limbs, and damage to organs. Yet I know people who would call my work vain, and that I just want to feel like God, building intelligent machines. All I know is that this attitude seems reflected towards a lot of groups. And towards a lot of people I know who are told to feel bad for trying to help this world. And to Clirus, I would just like to know, why? why discredit people who lack your beliefs? Just because someone isn't a Christian it doesn't mean they are wicked or a liar. In my eyes, I see no conspiracy, I see two sides fighting each other, each trying to convince everyone else that they are right. And you know what, I don't think either of them are. No one will be even close to what is right until they stop yelling and seeing boogie men, and start juat talking. Maybe then we can all agree on what is to be done. Title: Re:LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (Satan's Plan For America) Post by: ollie on September 24, 2004, 05:53:57 PM Did someone forget to mention the Godless conservatives in America? i.e. many syndicated talk show hosts., etc.
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