Title: BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Evangelist on August 17, 2004, 11:54:45 AM Posted by BL in a private message. (Whatsoever is said in darkness shall be shouted from the rooftops...)
Quote I am Forbidden to go on your web-sites Correct....both of your IP's were banned simply because of the tacky and useless comments you made in my guest book. I have better things to do than pay for the space and bandwidth taken up by foolishness, such as: Quote After reading some of your studies, I must give you "FIVE"Thumbs "DOWN" Really....you should be a little more forthcoming....my tracking software says that you accessed one study, and were there for just over 1 minute before going to the guestbook....and you say you read "some" of the studies?and then there was: Quote Believing Christ died, that's HISTORY. Believing Christ died "FOR" Your sins and rose again, that's SALVATION. "Maranatha" andQuote "One" Thumb Up and "ONE" Thumb Down Can't make up your mind?Jam 1:8 A double minded man [is] unstable in all his ways 2Pe 3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction Quote All "CULTS" have PROBLEMS with me I suppose this is your backhanded way of branding me or my website as a cult. Have you ever noticed that when people are involved in a cult that they tend to be the first ones to cast the "cult" stone at others? One of the hallmarks of a cult member is that they have a tendency to quote their "leader", as if that leader had the greatest insight that ever was. They also have a bad bad habit of reading more of what some man says than what Jesus had to say. I like to quote Jesus. He's MY leader. You like to quote C. R. Stam. Hmmm. Quote Have A GRRRRRREAT Day I fully intend to.....every day with Jesus is GRRRRRRREAT! But I have to admit, it's hard to soar like an eagle when I have to listen to all the turkeys. Quote Brother Love Ahhhhhhh....but that you would more adequately express the true nature of your chosen screen name. 1Jo 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. "With what measure ye mete, so shall it be meted unto you" "Jesus is tenderly calling thee home, calling today, calling today..." Won't you answer Him today? :) Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: sincereheart on August 17, 2004, 12:31:08 PM Correct....both of your IP's were banned simply because of the tacky and useless comments you made in my guest book. I have better things to do than pay for the space and bandwidth taken up by foolishness, such as:
"Quote: After reading some of your studies, I must give you "FIVE"Thumbs "DOWN" " ??? Hey folks: Just installed a guest book thingy on my websites. Sure is hard to get somebody to say something. ??? Since a lot of you (apparently) have gone there from here, would you say something kind (or unkind)? Even if it is a handful of thumbs down. ;D ??? Title: BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Brother Love on August 17, 2004, 01:43:55 PM Correct....both of your IP's were banned simply because of the tacky and useless comments you made in my guest book. I have better things to do than pay for the space and bandwidth taken up by foolishness, such as: "Quote: After reading some of your studies, I must give you "FIVE"Thumbs "DOWN" " ??? Hey folks: Just installed a guest book thingy on my websites. Sure is hard to get somebody to say something. ??? Since a lot of you (apparently) have gone there from here, would you say something kind (or unkind)? Even if it is a handful of thumbs down. ;D ??? ;D Title: BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Brother Love on August 17, 2004, 01:49:33 PM I only read a few:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEW So, you think you have time to decide? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEW What is love? The Truth about walking in the Spirit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEW Jewish Eschatology & the Anti-Christ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Salvation-What is it? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are There Any Conditions To Salvation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Inward Evidence of Salvation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Outward Evidence of Salvation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eternal Security- True or False? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Gifts of the Spirit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does Everyone Get Saved? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End Time Revival- Is There One? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is There More Than One Gospel? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contending Earnestly For The Faith -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Blessed Hope of the Believer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Armageddon How Close Are We? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Garden Conspiracy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Prayer Closet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Master's Table Christian News -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He Lived Among Us The Illustrated Gospel ;D P.S. Would you like to go over any of your studies? Your friend and (Future brother I Hope & Pray) Brother Love :) <:)))>< Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Evangelist on August 17, 2004, 02:12:30 PM Sincereheart:
??? Both entries are still there. Once was fine. Twice was tacky. Especially since they had no real content. Notwithstanding, I do stand corrected. Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Evangelist on August 17, 2004, 02:18:31 PM Quote P.S. Would you like to go over any of your studies? Anytime. Quote Your friend and (Future brother I Hope & Pray) Future? Ahhh, I think we are now, even if I'm not a hyper-dispy. But you apparently don't think so. Sad. :-\ In re the list you copied....I hope you copied the actual contents to a doc for future reading, but I don't really think you could have in the time you were there. Title: BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Brother Love on August 17, 2004, 05:27:00 PM Quote P.S. Would you like to go over any of your studies? Anytime. Quote Your friend and (Future brother I Hope & Pray) Future? Ahhh, I think we are now, even if I'm not a hyper-dispy. But you apparently don't think so. Sad. :-\ In re the list you copied....I hope you copied the actual contents to a doc for future reading, but I don't really think you could have in the time you were there. I spent more time than you think ;D I posted twice in your guestbook because I had not read that much the first time I posted. How about starting with Is There More Than One Gospel? ;D P.S. You requested me to give you some "THUMBS" Brorther"FORBIDDEN"Love :) <:)))>< Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Kristi Ann on August 17, 2004, 05:50:13 PM Who's Betsy anyhow?! duhhhh I get it now, it's just a figure of free speech.... :-X
Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Evangelist on August 17, 2004, 06:00:57 PM Quote How about starting with Is There More Than One Gospel? Lead on, MacDuff. Post it where you will....I'll be there. Maybe the hot kitchen area would be best....huh? Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: nChrist on August 18, 2004, 12:57:20 AM Quote Brother Love Said: P.S. Would you like to go over any of your studies? Your friend and (Future brother I Hope & Pray) Brother Love Brother Love, UM???? - I'm positive that you didn't find anything on Brother Hank's site that would even hint that he isn't saved. I'm curious why you would even hint this. 100% agreement with you is not a requirement of being saved, so please inform all of us why you would say something like this on Christians Unite. There are no two people or pastors, past or present, who have 100% agreement. So, what is the basis of you saying Brother Hank isn't a Brother in Christ? It should have some substance. If not, it would simply be a cheap personal attack, one you should retract and apologize for. If you are wondering, I think it is a cheap personal attack without any grounds. 100% agreement is not a measurement any anything, especially considering that 100% agreement does not exist. By the way, I don't agree with you 100% either, so does that mean I'm lost also? ??? Regardless, I think this is sad and childish. Love In Christ, Tom Title: BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Brother Love on August 18, 2004, 04:02:33 AM Quote Brother Love Said: P.S. Would you like to go over any of your studies? Your friend and (Future brother I Hope & Pray) Brother Love Brother Love, UM???? - I'm positive that you didn't find anything on Brother Hank's site that would even hint that he isn't saved. I'm curious why you would even hint this. 100% agreement with you is not a requirement of being saved, so please inform all of us why you would say something like this on Christians Unite. There are no two people or pastors, past or present, who have 100% agreement. So, what is the basis of you saying Brother Hank isn't a Brother in Christ? It should have some substance. If not, it would simply be a cheap personal attack, one you should retract and apologize for. If you are wondering, I think it is a cheap personal attack without any grounds. 100% agreement is not a measurement any anything, especially considering that 100% agreement does not exist. By the way, I don't agree with you 100% either, so does that mean I'm lost also? ??? Regardless, I think this is sad and childish. Love In Christ, Tom ;D BEP:By the way, I don't agree with you 100% either, so does that mean I'm lost also? ??? Regardless, I think this is sad and childish. And PLEASE tell me what DOCTRINE I teach or post that you do NOT believe is TRUE I know BEP everyone who says they are Christians are :) And I know ALL COPS & PASTORS are all GOOD. I will be a good boy BEP and not bother "THE EVANGELIST" Just for YOU BEP <:)))>< Title: BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Brother Love on August 18, 2004, 04:08:03 AM Quote How about starting with Is There More Than One Gospel? Lead on, MacDuff. Post it where you will....I'll be there. Maybe the hot kitchen area would be best....huh? I would LOVE it Benny, but I have to be a good boy. Have A GRRRREAT DAY! ;D Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: nChrist on August 18, 2004, 03:58:55 PM Quote BEP:By the way, I don't agree with you 100% either, so does that mean I'm lost also? Regardless, I think this is sad and childish. And PLEASE tell me what DOCTRINE I teach or post that you do NOT believe is TRUE I know BEP everyone who says they are Christians are And I know ALL COPS & PASTORS are all GOOD. I will be a good boy BEP and not bother "THE EVANGELIST" Just for YOU BEP <:)))>< You didn't answer the question, nor did you make an attempt. 100% agreement with you, me, or anyone else is not a prerequisite for salvation, so your post about Evangelist was a cheap personal attack, disruptive, and untrue about him not being a Brother in Christ. Please consider this to be a formal warning, especially since your remarks about Evangelist were public. Cool off and think before you label a Brother in Christ as lost. I don't think you can handle a debate with Evangelist, but you are welcome to try if you wish to remain civil. Moderator Title: BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Brother Love on August 19, 2004, 04:56:19 AM Yes Sir "Moderator" Your the Man ;D
<:)))>< +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Believing Christ died, that's HISTORY. Believing Christ died "FOR" Your sins and rose again, that's SALVATION. "Maranatha" Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Allinall on August 19, 2004, 09:35:59 AM *Wipes off the latent testosterone from his shoes* Man, what is it with this stuff? Anywho... ;D
Gentlemen. I must say that this tirade is less than edifying. B.L. is a hyper/ultra dispensationalist. From what I've read here in posts and perused from Hank's site, I'd gather he's a dispensationalist with his head screwed on straight. ;D So, as usual, B.L. disagrees with everyone that doesn't agree with C.R. Stam. BTW Hank, Tom agrees with some of Stam's stuff, so I don't think it's that cultish. :) And B.L.? Hank is about as straight-forward theologically as you can get. I have yet to see anything I'd greatly disagree with in his posts, or his site (granted, I have more to read but have faith I won't have problems with that which I read). That said, and the only real point I have (no comments from the peanut gallery please ;D), do we really need to doubt one another's claim to the salvific grace of our Lord Jesus Christ? Just a thought... Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Reba on August 19, 2004, 09:50:35 AM How can any dispy have his head screwed on stright? :P
Good morning Guys ! opps and Gals! Play nice we do still have a jail around here :P Mr. Beapster is a very good moderator! Mocking himn is not a good thing. Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Evangelist on August 19, 2004, 10:11:33 AM Quote Gentlemen. I must say that this tirade is less than edifying. B.L. is a hyper/ultra dispensationalist. From what I've read here in posts and perused from Hank's site, I'd gather he's a dispensationalist with his head screwed on straight. I take it as a compliment, Allinall, but I will say this....I don't call myself a dispensationalist in the classic connotation. Rather, I use the "division" as a way of better understanding HOW God dealt with mankind, and the progressive means of showing to us our inadequacy. And, along with Dr. Scofield (as he states emphatically numerous times), I do not consider God to have provided different means (house rules) of salvation over the course of time....throughout all of the "dispensations", there has been only ONE way of salvation, only ONE who could declare us righteous. "Salvation is by grace through faith, and that not of yourselves; not of works, lest any man should boast." Quote So, as usual, B.L. disagrees with everyone that doesn't agree with C.R. Stam. BTW Hank, Tom agrees with some of Stam's stuff, so I don't think it's that cultish. I don't consider Stam, or any other hyper-dispy to be a cult, although some border on it...like the guy in Colorado that has started a "shadow-gov" movement...and even he can't decide how many dispensations there are. "there could be as few as 3, or as many as 32 or 33, just depends on how you look at it." DOH! Stam, just as many others, has some good things to say, and some very salient points to make....and just as many others, a tendency to warp some things to try to emphasize a point, or prove a doctrine. Quote That said, and the only real point I have (no comments from the peanut gallery please ), do we really need to doubt one another's claim to the salvific grace of our Lord Jesus Christ? Seems to be the nature of those who think they know it all. :( Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Evangelist on August 19, 2004, 10:14:23 AM Reba:
Quote How can any dispy have his head screwed on stright? Very very simple. By faith I acknowledge that when God recreated me (made me a new man), he gave me a perfectly threaded neckstem, so that when I get up in the morning and put my head on, it always screws to just the right place and stops with my nose to the front....dead center, no less!! ;D Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: sincereheart on August 19, 2004, 10:22:04 AM *Wipes off the latent testosterone from his shoes* Man, what is it with this stuff? Anywho... ;D Gentlemen. I must say that this tirade is less than edifying. B.L. is a hyper/ultra dispensationalist. From what I've read here in posts and perused from Hank's site, I'd gather he's a dispensationalist with his head screwed on straight. ;D So, as usual, B.L. disagrees with everyone that doesn't agree with C.R. Stam. BTW Hank, Tom agrees with some of Stam's stuff, so I don't think it's that cultish. :) And B.L.? Hank is about as straight-forward theologically as you can get. I have yet to see anything I'd greatly disagree with in his posts, or his site (granted, I have more to read but have faith I won't have problems with that which I read). That said, and the only real point I have (no comments from the peanut gallery please ;D), do we really need to doubt one another's claim to the salvific grace of our Lord Jesus Christ? Just a thought... You're probably wrong because I agree with you! ;D The name calling on both ends and the questioning of salvation on both ends isn't edifying to the rest of us ignorant peons out here in the peanut section~ in my ever so humble opinion. I'm so glad I don't have that over-abundance of testosterone. 8) Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Reba on August 19, 2004, 10:24:27 AM :P 'rasberries' E
I am off to the far northern part of California again.... Please keep us before His throne..... Thanks Reba Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: nChrist on August 19, 2004, 06:17:14 PM Brothers and Sisters,
I think that the biggest thing that bothers me about this is claiming someone isn't saved because of a difference in doctrine. If that were done by everyone, there couldn't possibly be a Christians Unite forum. WHY??? - there are no two of us who have 100% agreement. I think that it is silly and childish to suggest that someone isn't saved because of some belief that has absolutely nothing to do with Salvation. Those differences could make for some very interesting and educational discussions. In fact, discussions of those differences in adult manners could help to build each other up in Christ. In the very least, some might even come to some understanding that no two of us even has the same definition for many of the tags and labels thrown around. It makes everyone pretty confused, and that is exactly what the devil wants. So - what do the following have to do with being saved? :D Un-dispy Re-dispied Inside dispy Outside dispy Twice removed dispy Double dispy Reverse dispy Over and under dispy Anti dispy Pre, Mid, Post, Done, No dispy Reformed dispy Old, Young, deceased dispy :D (OR, was that dippy or drippy?) It could get much more silly than this. Now, does the person or pastor have Jesus as personal Lord and Saviour? Personally, I don't have to agree with everything a person believes to have fellowship. That's a good thing since nobody completely agrees. I can also listen to a good preacher and enjoy the sermon without 100% agreement, mainly because there is no such thing as 100% agreement. Who is nit-picking and trying to decide which "nit" that has absolutely nothing to do with Salvation is worthy of calling the person lost? Some of this stuff is so silly and childish that someone may wish to terminate fellowship if someone parts their hair on the left. UH OH, do you have to part your hair in the middle to be saved, or do you have to believe, confess, pray for forgiveness, and ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart as personal Lord and Saviour? Dear Heavenly Father, we ask for guidance and wisdom to love our Brothers and Sisters in Christ. Lord, let our differences be used to strengthen each other by studying YOUR WORD and prayerfully nurturing our fellowship. Lord, we ask that you help us be fitting examples for the lost and the babes in Christ that you send to us. We ask these things in the precious name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour. Amen. Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: 2nd Timothy on August 20, 2004, 09:40:42 AM Quote Some of this stuff is so silly and childish that someone may wish to terminate fellowship if someone parts their hair on the left. UH OH, do you have to part your hair in the middle to be saved, or do you have to believe, confess, pray for forgiveness, and ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart as personal Lord and Saviour? Dear Heavenly Father, we ask for guidance and wisdom to love our Brothers and Sisters in Christ. Lord, let our differences be used to strengthen each other by studying YOUR WORD and prayerfully nurturing our fellowship. Lord, we ask that you help us be fitting examples for the lost and the babes in Christ that you send to us. We ask these things in the precious name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour. Amen. AMEN and AMEN! Now....Lets start afterglow. Not sure about anyone else, but the Double Dispy combo, a side order of pre done dispy, topped off with just a spinkle of tripple dippy dispy sounds mouth watering. ;D Dispy King? Dispy in the box? or McDispy? :P :D ;D sorry....couldn't let it pass. Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Allinall on August 20, 2004, 10:22:38 AM Quote I take it as a compliment, Allinall, but I will say this....I don't call myself a dispensationalist in the classic connotation. Rather, I use the "division" as a way of better understanding HOW God dealt with mankind, and the progressive means of showing to us our inadequacy. And, along with Dr. Scofield (as he states emphatically numerous times), I do not consider God to have provided different means (house rules) of salvation over the course of time....throughout all of the "dispensations", there has been only ONE way of salvation, only ONE who could declare us righteous. "Salvation is by grace through faith, and that not of yourselves; not of works, lest any man should boast." That's cool! I call myself a dispensationalist only from the teachings embedded deep within my skull when I was at school. Now, the big argument there was whether Covenant Theology or Dispensationalism was the right doctrine. They taught Dispensationalism, which I held to. Now, after I've grown, and been able to discern more for myself, I've looked deeper at the Covenant Theologian's point of view, and have concluded, apart from an inaccurate linking of Israel to the Church and vice versa, they hold to a "dispensation" of sorts as well. And their linkings aren't necessarily all that out of whack either. Nevertheless, to be true to the word is the key, and I believe the Dispensational viewpoint to be the closer. But you don't live or die by the viewpoint. You live by the faith of the Son of God, Who loves you and gave Himself for you. Right? I digress... ;D Quote Quote: That said, and the only real point I have (no comments from the peanut gallery please ), do we really need to doubt one another's claim to the salvific grace of our Lord Jesus Christ? Seems to be the nature of those who think they know it all. Yup. Find myself doing that from time to time. But all I have to do is remember I really don't have much of a clue, and things are back into proper perspective. :) Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Allinall on August 20, 2004, 10:27:11 AM Quote So - what do the following have to do with being saved? Un-dispy Re-dispied Inside dispy Outside dispy Twice removed dispy Double dispy Reverse dispy Over and under dispy Anti dispy Pre, Mid, Post, Done, No dispy Reformed dispy Old, Young, deceased dispy (OR, was that dippy or drippy?) Tom, I must say that this truly offends me. Afterall, you left out my personal stance of Pre-Reformed Evangelical Post-Modern Bible Dispy. No. No question. How can you be saved and leave out the PREPMBD's? ;D Nice point Brother! :D ;) Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Allinall on August 20, 2004, 10:29:54 AM Quote Some of this stuff is so silly and childish that someone may wish to terminate fellowship if someone parts their hair on the left. UH OH, do you have to part your hair in the middle to be saved, or do you have to believe, confess, pray for forgiveness, and ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart as personal Lord and Saviour? Dear Heavenly Father, we ask for guidance and wisdom to love our Brothers and Sisters in Christ. Lord, let our differences be used to strengthen each other by studying YOUR WORD and prayerfully nurturing our fellowship. Lord, we ask that you help us be fitting examples for the lost and the babes in Christ that you send to us. We ask these things in the precious name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour. Amen. AMEN and AMEN! Now....Lets start afterglow. Not sure about anyone else, but the Double Dispy combo, a side order of pre done dispy, topped off with just a spinkle of tripple dippy dispy sounds mouth watering. ;D Dispy King? Dispy in the box? or McDispy? :P :D ;D sorry....couldn't let it pass. Great. Now I'm hungry. Wonder what's on sale at Kentucky Fried Dispy? ;D LOL@Tim Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Evangelist on August 20, 2004, 10:55:06 AM How on earth could you possibly leave out consideration of the tastiest dispy of all? >:( ??? :'(
Ground Disp y frijoles y jalapenos!! ;D Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: nChrist on August 20, 2004, 11:31:08 AM Brothers and Sisters,
;D ;D I'm glad that we were able to have a little bit of fun with something that does appear to be a bar for fellowship for some. All of the terms, tags, and labels get pretty confusing, but I think that I'm a: Single Dippy with Sprinkles. ;D You know - those itsy-bitsy candies. Love In Christ, Tom Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: Brother Love on August 20, 2004, 12:03:00 PM I think Dippy is the KEY-WORD ;D
<:)))>< Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: NateyCakes on August 20, 2004, 04:24:16 PM ~Still struggling from the aftermath of Hurricane Charley here in Central FL. Its a whoppin 97 degrees out w/ 100 humidity & Ive got no home to go into & cool off in, so I'm moody & say my pitiful 2 cents here: There is this lit'l scripture that reads, "Judge not les ye be judged......" Might be little but says A LOT!!! Remember it. Go outside, do something, paint your bedroom Pink........Geesh.
Title: Re:BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!! Post by: nChrist on August 21, 2004, 12:13:39 PM Hello NateyCakes,
I've been praying for the people in the path of Charley. Just to say that you lived is very positive. It is very sad to hear that you lost your home. I will be praying for your family. Love In Christ, Tom |