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Title: The Lamb Post by: nChrist on June 08, 2003, 05:24:06 PM Mary had a little lamb,
his fleece was white as snow. And everywhere that Mary went, The Lamb was sure to go. He followed her to school each day, T'wasn't even in the rule. It made the children laugh and play, To have a Lamb at school. And then the rules all changed one day, Illegal it became; To bring the Lamb of God to school, Or even speak His Name.! ; Every day got worse and worse, And days turned into years. Instead of hearing children laugh, We heard gun shots and tears. What must we do to stop the crime, That's in our schools today?Let's let the Lamb come back to school, And teach our kids to pray! Author Unknown Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Symphony on June 08, 2003, 08:06:59 PM Hmmmm, thank you, bep... Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: TigerLily on June 14, 2003, 07:50:49 AM wow bep.. that makes a person stop and think doesnt it..
thanks for sharing.. Lya TL Title: The Lamb Post by: Ambassador4Christ on June 14, 2003, 02:57:08 PM Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Seven_Tides on June 14, 2003, 03:04:34 PM I must say, that was a very poignant version of Mary Had A
Little Lamb. It's amazing that it is very true, indeed. Thanks, black eyed peas. Title: did u write that?? Post by: BDoggy on June 14, 2003, 03:09:32 PM cause if u did, i think it's amazing! it deals with some very troubling issues :'( but with an element of great hope through Christ :)
Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Seven_Tides on June 14, 2003, 03:14:36 PM I agree BDoggy.
Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on June 16, 2003, 08:08:46 PM Oklahoma Howdy to All,
I feel very strongly about this subject. Our world is getting to be a pretty sad place. My wife is a school teacher, and she and others are talking about changes in text books. Would you believe it if I told you they are taking the stories about Thanksgiving and the pilgrims out of text books because of the link to God? WOW! I can't believe some of the things that are happening. It will probably be replaced with tolerance and respect for gay or alternative life styles. If space or time is short, God should be given that time and space. Everything else can go, but God must be put on the top of the list for honor, praise, respect, and education. God can still help or heal our sick world and sick societies. In Christ. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Allinall on June 20, 2003, 04:10:21 AM Reading this brings to mind something I taught in Sunday School a few weeks ago. The lesson was on God's omnipresence. Yes, our country has deemed it necessary to ban God from our schools in form of prayer and suchlike, yet can they limit God? Now this isn't a profound thought, as everyone would readily agree that God cannot be limited by humanity in any way shape or form. Yet, do we find ourselves attempting to come to God's defense? Do we find ourselves attempting to change things so that He's not kept out of our schools? Here's where I'm going with this. Prayer or no, He is there. Denied or accepted, He is there.
Do I post this to say we should leave them alone? To quote Paul, "God forbid!" BEP has the idea right. When we deny God, there are reprocussions. We should actively support reform for the better. I post this rather as an encouragement to my brothers and sisters in Christ. Though this world may attempt to blot God out, they never will. He is the great I AM. Legislation will not change the Unchangeable. While we may mourn the course of action our country takes, we can glory in the reality of our God. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on June 20, 2003, 06:28:11 PM Oklahoma Howdy to Allinall,
I agree completely that God is with us in every place and at all times. I see the general decline of our society that accelerates the more we deny God HIS rightful place in our society. We were a nation "UNDER GOD" and should be, and maybe we can be again. There is no doubt that God has greatly blessed America in the past. There is also no doubt that America is still being blessed by God, even though our nation is not giving HIM the proper recognition, respect, and honor. I, for one, have decided to stand up and be heard on these issues. I pray that other Christians will also STAND UP AND SPEAK UP. Silent Christians need to wake up and see what is happening. Maybe not all Christians will "shout the Gospel" from the rooftops, but maybe they will at least end the silence and take part in honoring God wherever they go and whatever they do. It's time FOR CHRISTIANS TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET AND BE PROUD OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR! In Christ. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: BDoggy on June 20, 2003, 11:42:22 PM nobody misunderstand what i am about to say. i am not bashing on america in any way, after all i am an american. but the simple truth is, this nation was never a godly nation. people think that america was founded on christian principals. this is not true though. think about the way this country was founded. christopher columbus was a man who embraced hatred, racism and genocide. also think about the ungodly treatment of black people before the civil rights movement. i am always confused when president bush says, "this is God's country". what exactly is he trying to say? that america is God's favorite country? that america is populated by mostly godly people? the point that i'm trying to make is that before we can truly change as a nation, we must(as a nation)humble ourselves, open up our eyes and realize that this nation is not as good & holy as we thought, nor has it ever been. only then can we change. hopefully this happens soon...
Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: John the Baptist on June 21, 2003, 03:37:42 PM Where is Christ supposed to be?? ??? Perhaps we need several laws forcing Christianity? A law to use force for all of these, huh? Schools, in government, in the home, and the church? Rome, here we come! :'( ---John Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: BDoggy on June 21, 2003, 03:57:57 PM ????????? ??? ??? ????????????????? huh??
Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: BDoggy on June 21, 2003, 05:18:55 PM john-please clarify what you meant. your post confused me. ??? i was not in any way saying that we should force Christianity on anyone. in fact, i wasn't even hinting at that.
i am clueless as to how you could have possibly gotten that from what i said ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: John the Baptist on June 21, 2003, 07:05:13 PM Where is Christ supposed to be?? ??? Perhaps we need several laws forcing Christianity? A law to use force for all of these, huh? Schools, in government, in the home, and the church? Rome, here we come! :'( ---John ******** Hi me again! Is there any singular person's name here??? The 'posts' (postings, letters, missives) mostly sound that they are in favor of school prayer? ((?)) This is not legal at present. So Caesar would need to be USED. :'( ---John Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: BDoggy on June 21, 2003, 08:08:12 PM john-are you saying prayer should not be allowed in school?
if you are saying that prayer should not be 'forced' in school, then i completely agree, but i hope your not saying that school prayer should be prohibited altogether. and what exactly do you mean by, "caesar would have to be used"? Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Brother Love on June 23, 2003, 06:14:38 AM Oklahoma Howdy to All, I feel very strongly about this subject. Our world is getting to be a pretty sad place. My wife is a school teacher, and she and others are talking about changes in text books. Would you believe it if I told you they are taking the stories about Thanksgiving and the pilgrims out of text books because of the link to God? WOW! I can't believe some of the things that are happening. It will probably be replaced with tolerance and respect for gay or alternative life styles. If space or time is short, God should be given that time and space. Everything else can go, but God must be put on the top of the list for honor, praise, respect, and education. God can still help or heal our sick world and sick societies. In Christ. I agree Brother Love :) Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: John the Baptist on June 29, 2003, 09:06:41 AM john-are you saying prayer should not be allowed in school? *********if you are saying that prayer should not be 'forced' in school, then i completely agree, but i hope your not saying that school prayer should be prohibited altogether. and what exactly do you mean by, "caesar would have to be used"? John here: BDoggy, Christ is our example, right? What was His message about the coin's other side? (Caesar) Are you familiar with Rom. 13? Matt. 10:5-6 tells 'us' where He sent His desciples. :'( They were COMMANDED not to go to the Gentile world at this time. Prayer in the world schools were not on Christ's mind! Read the whole chapter from verse 5 on. (Off subject perhaps, but this explains the Matt. 25 PARABLE to a -T-) Anyone can pray in school. Yet, we would need 'force of law' to make it lawful to have 'all' pray in school. For the law gives protection for the few that would not want this. Could Christ have been legally crucified back then without the changing of our constitution, 'IF' Rome had, had our constitution?? Christ was a minority, 'cult' or an 'real' offshoot & troublemaker to the [majority] of His 'own' denomination! This was & is our MASTER! Huh? see verse 25 of Matt. 10??? What was the trouble when Christ came to His 'own' the first time? That is the same problem at this present time, just before He comes the second time! Again Matt. 10:5-6 tells us that it was not Rome (the then Caesar=U.S.A.) where he sent His WARNING MESSAGE TOO! (the question to think on is, could Christ be killed by His own without Caesars approval?) If this sounds confussing, it is not. Christ has His professed folks in membership with 'dirty' church denominations. (openly printed sins along with false doctrines-compare Rev, 18:4) This is where the trouble is. Will Legal Public school prayer (or *any forced law, 666) clean up dirty Christian church denominations? Read Joshua 7:12's last part of the verse, or Isa. 59:1-2? This is US that are the problem, not Caesar. The bottom line is: Changing the U.S.A. constitution will NOT aid Christ's reformers, but will make the job depicted in Matt. 10:23's that much harder. :'( (yes, it will be changed, this is why U.S.A. go from Lamb like to Dragon) By the way, Christ was ALREADY there speaking in Matt. 10:23, huh?? Hope that this helps BDoggy? :) ---John Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Symphony on June 29, 2003, 10:43:50 AM All public agencies, including schools, are gradually leading--and being led--astray.... The highest authority in the land, the U.S. Supreme Court, just overturned the antisodomy law of Texas; by implication that overturns the remaining twelves states similarly; and paves the way for gay marriage--literally, as instituted by public agency. For young families with children to be strapped with "educating" the children with how to make a living, PLUS keeping them aware of God, his law, and His love for us, is double duty. Increasingly, you have to pay for public schools via significant if not confiscatory taxes, then, if you want to train them Godly like, you have to still do that yourself. You pay for "services" through your taxes, but you cannot avail yourself of those services, unless you want to hand your children over to "the beast". Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: John the Baptist on June 29, 2003, 11:27:12 AM All public agencies, including schools, are gradually leading--and being led--astray.... The highest authority in the land, the U.S. Supreme Court, just overturned the antisodomy law of Texas; by implication that overturns the remaining twelves states similarly; and paves the way for gay marriage--literally, as instituted by public agency. For young families with children to be strapped with "educating" the children with how to make a living, PLUS keeping them aware of God, his law, and His love for us, is double duty. Increasingly, you have to pay for public schools via significant if not confiscatory taxes, then, if you want to train them Godly like, you have to still do that yourself. You pay for "services" through your taxes, but you cannot avail yourself of those services, unless you want to hand your children over to "the beast". ******** Hi me again, John: VERY TRUE! But, are not your & my youngins, not inside yoked denominations that are being arrested for 'porn' 'sodomy' child abuse +, all the while READING IT OPENLY IN THE NEWS & SEEING IT ON T.V.?? (IT IS A FACT!!!!) What better 'VERY PUBLIC' teacher's can the 'd'evil have than these 'c'hristians???? That my friend is why CHRIST HAS A MEASSAGE TO US IN REV.18:4! (Eternal life or death eternal) We are in the END time, it is not going to get better world/wise. --John Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Symphony on June 29, 2003, 04:52:46 PM True, John, that the "church" has little room to "judge". It has its own crow to eat, for sure. I may have taken us off-topic here... Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: John the Baptist on June 29, 2003, 06:05:37 PM Mary had a little lamb, ***********his fleece was white as snow. And everywhere that Mary went, The Lamb was sure to go. He followed her to school each day, T'wasn't even in the rule. It made the children laugh and play, To have a Lamb at school. And then the rules all changed one day, Illegal it became; To bring the Lamb of God to school, Or even speak His Name.! ; Every day got worse and worse, And days turned into years. Instead of hearing children laugh, We heard gun shots and tears. What must we do to stop the crime, That's in our schools today?Let's let the Lamb come back to school, And teach our kids to pray! Author Unknown OFF TOPIC? John here: (under) NATION--Spartanburg Herald-Journal<>Sunday, 29. 2003 Gay, Lesbian communities experiencing 'GAYBY Boom' Just one stastic: "A report last month by the Urban Institute, based of 2000 census data, found more than 67,000 male same-sex couples with children and 167,000 female couples." Remember that this was well before the Sumpreme courts decision last week! It is quite an article, you all need to get it & read it! Think of 'kids' growing up having parents hugging & kissing of the same sex? (or what else?) O' yes, remember AIDS? OK, now send all these lambies to school together for their education? And cival rights?? Of course this has now all got to be open to the T.V. public! And most assuredly coupled together with the race question, so it can have some merit & keep afloat! And who really cares in todays professed 'christian' society, anyway??? This could never of happened if God was in charge! See Joshua 7:12's last part of verse! ---John Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on July 01, 2003, 02:51:59 AM And who really cares in todays professed 'christian' society, anyway??? This could never of happened if God was in charge! See Joshua 7:12's last part of verse! ---John Oklahoma Howdy to John, I think there are quite a few people who care about what's going on in America. The doubt comes in when you ask how many of them are willing to send an e-mail or telephone their representatives. Signing petitions is pretty easy, but you do have to put your name and address on it. I don't know if it is apathy, fear, or what that prevents Christians from standing up and saying, "THAT IS WRONG - I WON'T TOLERATE THAT." I do stand up and will continue doing so for the rest of my years. If I get knocked down, I'll get back up. I honestly think that one of the biggest problems in America is WIMPY CHRISTIANS who look the other way and remain silent when they should have been BOLD, LOUD, and DEMANDING. Soapbox mode off, let's get back to the whining. Yes, things may get worse, and they certainly will in the end days. However, that is not a license for Christians to abandon morals, values, ethics, AND RESPONSIBILITY. Why don't we talk about responsibility AND NOT GO QUIETLY. In Christ. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: John the Baptist on July 01, 2003, 09:39:09 AM And who really cares in todays professed 'christian' society, anyway??? This could never of happened if God was in charge! See Joshua 7:12's last part of verse! ---John Oklahoma Howdy to John, I think there are quite a few people who care about what's going on in America. The doubt comes in when you ask how many of them are willing to send an e-mail or telephone their representatives. Signing petitions is pretty easy, but you do have to put your name and address on it. I don't know if it is apathy, fear, or what that prevents Christians from standing up and saying, "THAT IS WRONG - I WON'T TOLERATE THAT." I do stand up and will continue doing so for the rest of my years. If I get knocked down, I'll get back up. I honestly think that one of the biggest problems in America is WIMPY CHRISTIANS who look the other way and remain silent when they should have been BOLD, LOUD, and DEMANDING. Soapbox mode off, let's get back to the whining. Yes, things may get worse, and they certainly will in the end days. However, that is not a license for Christians to abandon morals, values, ethics, AND RESPONSIBILITY. Why don't we talk about responsibility AND NOT GO QUIETLY. In Christ. John here: Soapbox mode off??? ??? ... Why don't we talk about responsilbility and not go guietly? Is this what you think that I am not doing?? Going quietly? Personally 'i' see the Master involved [inside] His Virgin denomination, not inside or outside government, cleaning it up. See Matt. 10:5-6 & then read Eze. 9. And the command of CHRIST in Matt. 28:20?? And then we see INSPIRATION OF HIS WORD'S in Rev. 18:4 telling CAESAR (?) that to be in yoked membership makes one a LOST PARTAKER of their evil if they stay in its membership! Surely, that is a church woman (denomination) in the verse! Like with 'daughters' as seen in Rev. 17. ---John Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Symphony on July 01, 2003, 10:54:42 PM Hi, bep. Welcome back. Nope, it's not a very pretty picture. I agree with John; it's getting, and going to get, a lot uglier, I'm afraid. I've many kin, many with young children. So I don't discuss it much anymore. As one said to me, "We only want to hear good news." We seem to have reached a saturation point; with young parents they don't want to hear about it. Not that I blame them. Of course, the gospel is just that, "good news", and thank you Jesus for that. But taking part in our economy, and even socially, increasingly very questionable. And many churches are really just social clubs, it seems. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on July 02, 2003, 05:21:42 AM John here: Soapbox mode off??? ??? ... Why don't we talk about responsilbility and not go guietly? Is this what you think that I am not doing?? Going quietly? Oklahoma Howdy to John The Baptist, That was a GENERAL statement not directed at anyone, certainly not you. I would have to admit that I GO TOO QUIETLY sometimes when I hear or see something obviously wrong. Very generally, I was trying to encourage all Christians to stand up and be counted when they should, including myself. In my opinion, standing up is a Christian responsibility, even if it is hard, unpleasant, and with consequences. Yes, I would like to talk about Christian responsibilities, and I wish that all Christians started talking about their responsibilities. Generally speaking, Christians are getting a reputation for being wimpy, whining, and simply retreating to their closet or hiding when that question of responsibility comes up. Christians will not prevent the horrible things that happen in the end times, but I believe they have a responsibility to stand up and be counted for what is right. John, I think and hope that you will be one of those who stand up. I'll post a message below about Christian responsibility and see if there is any interest. In Christ. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Brother Love on July 02, 2003, 05:32:44 AM Quote blackeyedpeas: Christians will not prevent the horrible things that happen in the end times, but I believe they have a responsibility to stand up and be counted for what is right.
Right On Brother Brother Love :) Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on July 02, 2003, 05:47:33 AM Hi, bep. Welcome back. Nope, it's not a very pretty picture. I agree with John; it's getting, and going to get, a lot uglier, I'm afraid. Oklahoma Howdy to Symphony, I've had monster computer problems, but I've also spent quite a bit of time with a new grandson born on May 29th. I really don't think we've seen UGLY yet, but I think it is coming. There may come a time when Christians will face death for standing up and claiming Jesus or making a statement about right and wrong. I hope and pray that multitudes of Christians will STAND TALL when and if that time comes in our lifetimes. Some of the most fierce warriors in history were Christians, and I pray there will be masses ready to put on God's armor and go if the time comes. I might also add that some of the LOUDEST and most DEMANDING public figures in history were Christians. They were not ashamed of HIS WORD or to take a BOLD and HARSH stance on right and wrong. There are dozens of grossly wrong things that are happening or are in the making that don't appear to be addressed. Oh, there might be some politically correct public figures that hint something is wrong. Again, this is a very general statement. I would hope and pray that many people on this forum would boldly tell it like it is if given the opportunity. LET'S START A CHRISTIANS COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MOVEMENT! ;) In Christ. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Brother Love on July 02, 2003, 06:12:28 AM Hi, bep. Welcome back. Nope, it's not a very pretty picture. I agree with John; it's getting, and going to get, a lot uglier, I'm afraid. Oklahoma Howdy to Symphony, I've had monster computer problems, but I've also spent quite a bit of time with a new grandson born on May 29th. I really don't think we've seen UGLY yet, but I think it is coming. There may come a time when Christians will face death for standing up and claiming Jesus or making a statement about right and wrong. I hope and pray that multitudes of Christians will STAND TALL when and if that time comes in our lifetimes. Some of the most fierce warriors in history were Christians, and I pray there will be masses ready to put on God's armor and go if the time comes. I might also add that some of the LOUDEST and most DEMANDING public figures in history were Christians. They were not ashamed of HIS WORD or to take a BOLD and HARSH stance on right and wrong. There are dozens of grossly wrong things that are happening or are in the making that don't appear to be addressed. Oh, there might be some politically correct public figures that hint something is wrong. Again, this is a very general statement. I would hope and pray that many people on this forum would boldly tell it like it is if given the opportunity. LET'S START A CHRISTIANS COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MOVEMENT! ;) In Christ. Amen Brother LET'S START A CHRISTIANS COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MOVEMENT! Right On Add your name to this movement: 1. Brother Love 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. Brother Love :) Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: John the Baptist on July 02, 2003, 08:06:07 AM Hi, bep. Welcome back. Nope, it's not a very pretty picture. I agree with John; it's getting, and going to get, a lot uglier, I'm afraid. Oklahoma Howdy to Symphony, I've had monster computer problems, but I've also spent quite a bit of time with a new grandson born on May 29th. I really don't think we've seen UGLY yet, but I think it is coming. There may come a time when Christians will face death for standing up and claiming Jesus or making a statement about right and wrong. I hope and pray that multitudes of Christians will STAND TALL when and if that time comes in our lifetimes. Some of the most fierce warriors in history were Christians, and I pray there will be masses ready to put on God's armor and go if the time comes. I might also add that some of the LOUDEST and most DEMANDING public figures in history were Christians. They were not ashamed of HIS WORD or to take a BOLD and HARSH stance on right and wrong. There are dozens of grossly wrong things that are happening or are in the making that don't appear to be addressed. Oh, there might be some politically correct public figures that hint something is wrong. Again, this is a very general statement. I would hope and pray that many people on this forum would boldly tell it like it is if given the opportunity. LET'S START A CHRISTIANS COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MOVEMENT! ;) In Christ. Amen Brother LET'S START A CHRISTIANS COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MOVEMENT! Right On Add your name to this movement: 1. Brother Love 2. John the Baptist 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. Brother Love :) Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on July 02, 2003, 10:27:44 AM Hi, bep. Welcome back. Nope, it's not a very pretty picture. I agree with John; it's getting, and going to get, a lot uglier, I'm afraid. Oklahoma Howdy to Symphony, I've had monster computer problems, but I've also spent quite a bit of time with a new grandson born on May 29th. I really don't think we've seen UGLY yet, but I think it is coming. There may come a time when Christians will face death for standing up and claiming Jesus or making a statement about right and wrong. I hope and pray that multitudes of Christians will STAND TALL when and if that time comes in our lifetimes. Some of the most fierce warriors in history were Christians, and I pray there will be masses ready to put on God's armor and go if the time comes. I might also add that some of the LOUDEST and most DEMANDING public figures in history were Christians. They were not ashamed of HIS WORD or to take a BOLD and HARSH stance on right and wrong. There are dozens of grossly wrong things that are happening or are in the making that don't appear to be addressed. Oh, there might be some politically correct public figures that hint something is wrong. Again, this is a very general statement. I would hope and pray that many people on this forum would boldly tell it like it is if given the opportunity. LET'S START A CHRISTIANS COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MOVEMENT! ;) In Christ. Amen Brother LET'S START A CHRISTIANS COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MOVEMENT! Right On Add your name to this movement: 1. Brother Love 2. John the Baptist 3. Mr. Blackeyedpeas 4. Mrs. Blackeyedpeas ;) 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. Brother Love :) Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Alfie on July 06, 2003, 02:26:59 PM Duh,
Someone please add my name to it; I don't know how to do it. Thank you very much. :) Lamb of God who takest away the sins of the world have mercy on us; Lamb of God who takest away the sins of the world have mercy on us; Lamb of God who takest away the sins of the world grant us peace. Amen Title: The Lamb Post by: Ambassador4Christ on July 06, 2003, 02:34:34 PM LET'S START A CHRISTIANS COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MOVEMENT! Right On Add your name to this movement:
1. Brother Love :) 2. John the Baptist :) 3. Mr. Blackeyedpeas :) 4. Mrs. Blackeyedpeas :) 5. Alfie :) 6. Ambassador4Christ ;D 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Durango on July 06, 2003, 02:40:35 PM LET'S START A CHRISTIANS COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MOVEMENT! Right On Add your name to this movement:
1. Brother Love 2. John the Baptist 3. Mr. Blackeyedpeas 4. Mrs. Blackeyedpeas 5. Alfie 6. Ambassador4Christ 7. Durango 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Alfie on July 06, 2003, 02:58:21 PM A public "Thank you" to Ambassdor4Christ for adding my name to the list.
God bless you, Alfie Title: The Lamb Post by: Ambassador4Christ on July 06, 2003, 05:10:08 PM A public "Thank you" to Ambassdor4Christ for adding my name to the list. God bless you, Alfie Welcome ;D Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Whitehorse on July 06, 2003, 08:43:24 PM But...what if we're not in the closet? ;D
Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on July 07, 2003, 01:53:43 AM But...what if we're not in the closet? ;D Oklahoma Howdy to Whitehorse, I knew this had to happen sooner or later. ;D You pry open the closet door, let the light in for those who are hiding in the dark, encourage them, lead a CHARGE out of the closet, and be the first into battle. If any stumble or fall along the way, you help them up. STANDING TALL FOR JESUS FEELS GOOD! In Christ. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Brother Love on July 07, 2003, 04:03:06 AM But...what if we're not in the closet? ;D Oklahoma Howdy to Whitehorse, I knew this had to happen sooner or later. ;D You pry open the closet door, let the light in for those who are hiding in the dark, encourage them, lead a CHARGE out of the closet, and be the first into battle. If any stumble or fall along the way, you help them up. STANDING TALL FOR JESUS FEELS GOOD! In Christ. Amen Brother Amen Brother Love :) Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: John the Baptist on July 07, 2003, 09:32:22 AM Hay Okkie, John here:
so far there is a lot of 'talk' seen by me? What is next? And remember that most in, or even out of the 'closet'(?) teach only believe, and the Word Work is a very nasty addition! :'( ---J/t/B/ Title: The Lamb Post by: Ambassador4Christ on July 07, 2003, 02:40:11 PM Hay Okkie, John here: so far there is a lot of 'talk' seen by me? What is next? And remember that most in, or even out of the 'closet'(?) teach only believe, and the Word Work is a very nasty addition! :'( ---J/t/B/ One More Time John Boy, Just For You: First we must understand the basis of our salvation. Is salvation based on what we do? Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; These scriptures, and countless others, make it clear that salvation is not based on what we do for God. In fact, it is just the opposite. Our salvation is based on what God did for us (Rom 5:8; 1 Cor 15:3,4; 2 Cor 5:21). Since we can't do anything to be saved, how can we be expected to do anything to stay saved? The scriptures teach that we are secure in Christ and that nothing, not even our own unbelief, can separate us from the love of God once we have trusted in Christ's sacrifice for our sin. (Rom 8:33-39; Phil 1:6; 2 Tim 2:11-13) ;D Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: John the Baptist on July 07, 2003, 08:51:18 PM Hay Okkie, John here: so far there is a lot of 'talk' seen by me? What is next? And remember that most in, or even out of the 'closet'(?) teach only believe, and the Word Work is a very nasty addition! :'( ---J/t/B/ One More Time John Boy, Just For You: **** John here: Hi again Oak, :)!! It seem's that to come out in the open (you know, this closet thing) is to get hammered by these 'only' believe guys? My Master said, "IF YE LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS". And Wow! these saved 'birds' really love huh? See Rev. 3:16-17 Christ says sickening! :'( The next thing we will be hearing is, perhaps the Matt. 10:25's inspiration, and then comes the 'only believe' by forced Caesar stuff?? Forced 'faith', boy that would be comming out of the closet, huh? A FORCED WORKING FAITH OF ONLY BELIEVE! I wonder if God thought of that one? (yes, i know, that is Prophecy!) Real freedom & liberty? Sure is beginning to sound like [some] of us 'out of the closet' ones, are in some [private] work/less club! And now this one wants me to convert to this kind of 'stuffings'! Hog/Wash, you know, the 2 Peter 2:19-22 kind of 'bondage' Vomit! Not the Phil. 4:13 & 2 Cor. 12:9 kind of real working & 'Believing Faith! :'( :'( ****** First we must understand the basis of our salvation. Is salvation based on what we do? Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. ***** John again Oak: Seems that Paul just could not get the COMMANDMENT of CHRIST right in Acts 9:6, where Christ told him personally what "HE MUST DO". And then Paul must have 'blew it good' in Rom. 2:13 too, huh?? "(For not the hearers of the law are JUST BEFORE GOD, BUT THE [DOERS] OF THE LAW [SHALL BE JUSTIFIED. ..)" "Do we make VOID THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? **GOD FORBID: YEA, [WE] (some) ESTABLISH THE LAW". ****** Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; These scriptures, and countless others, make it clear that salvation is not based on what we do for God. In fact, it is just the opposite. Our salvation is based on what God did for us (Rom 5:8; 1 Cor 15:3,4; 2 Cor 5:21). **** John here again Oak. Just a thought about this 'out of the closet' type?? In 2 Cor. 4:2 we find that we are to be honest! Wow, that is something like the law too! A kind of 'work' perhaps? Any way, 'i' will offer a nice offering to the forum here for some of its exspences if [anyone] [anywhere] has EVER seen me print, say, teach, or [EVEN HINT] that works of any kind save a lost soul!! (any soul!) IT JUST DOES NOT EXIST!!! Now, if this is the kind of 'out of the closet' ones that we are to deal with, i question as to how they are any better than Rome? Even they teach that one must believe? Los Angeles Times, 2/5/93 Pope Paul 11 sought common ground with believers in voodoo Thursday, suggesting they would not betray their traditional faith by converting to Christianity." ***** Since we can't do anything to be saved, how can we be expected to do anything to stay saved? The scriptures teach that we are secure in Christ and that nothing, not even our own unbelief, can separate us from the love of God once we have trusted in Christ's sacrifice for our sin. (Rom 8:33-39; Phil 1:6; 2 Tim 2:11-13) **** John here again: Oak just scratch me from the outside of this guys 'closet ones, ok? I KNOW that i will stick with the LOVING kind of 'BELIEVING' in my MASTER. ---John PS: Yes Lord, this guy's kind of love sickens me also! Rev. 3:17. James 2:20 & verses 22, 24, 26, *17! :'( :'( ****** ;D Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on July 08, 2003, 08:37:13 PM Hay Okkie, John here: so far there is a lot of 'talk' seen by me? What is next? And remember that most in, or even out of the 'closet'(?) teach only believe, and the Word Work is a very nasty addition! :'( ---J/t/B/ Oklahoma Howdy to John the Baptist, Good works are the sign of a grateful heart. What I am suggesting is that all Christians stand up, speak up, claim Jesus, take a stand on right and wrong, and stop doing nothing in the dark in total silence. Most would call this working for Jesus. I certainly realize that good works are not required for Salvation, but I am suggesting that we all need to do some work if we wish to preserve what's left of Christian America. I chose to use the phrase "Come out of the closet" on purpose, as an illustration. Is it possible that gay folks might one day have more rights in America than Christian folks? Look at what's happening as we speak and answer that question for yourself. You've seen my web site, and you know that I'm not a shy person regarding a stance for Jesus. However, I've already told everyone here that I didn't take some opportunities I was given to stand up and speak up. I would like to properly use every opportunity I am given. If every Christian used just half of the opportunities they are given, it is guaranteed that we would make a difference with God's help. Coming out of the closet, speaking up, and standing up is WORK. In Christ. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on July 08, 2003, 08:59:08 PM Oklahoma Howdy to John the Baptist,
I guess that I should have read your last post before replying to your first one. It is confusing, and I really don't know what you are trying to say. WOW!, I could just tell you the "list thing" is symbolic and a discussion among friends about taking a stand for Jesus. John, lighten up some, we'll call our stable of lawyers and see if we can get your name taken off the list. ;) In Christ. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Brother Love on July 09, 2003, 04:38:07 AM Hay Okkie, John here: so far there is a lot of 'talk' seen by me? What is next? And remember that most in, or even out of the 'closet'(?) teach only believe, and the Word Work is a very nasty addition! :'( ---J/t/B/ Oklahoma Howdy to John the Baptist, Good works are the sign of a grateful heart. What I am suggesting is that all Christians stand up, speak up, claim Jesus, take a stand on right and wrong, and stop doing nothing in the dark in total silence. Most would call this working for Jesus. I certainly realize that good works are not required for Salvation, but I am suggesting that we all need to do some work if we wish to preserve what's left of Christian America. I chose to use the phrase "Come out of the closet" on purpose, as an illustration. Is it possible that gay folks might one day have more rights in America than Christian folks? Look at what's happening as we speak and answer that question for yourself. You've seen my web site, and you know that I'm not a shy person regarding a stance for Jesus. However, I've already told everyone here that I didn't take some opportunities I was given to stand up and speak up. I would like to properly use every opportunity I am given. If every Christian used just half of the opportunities they are given, it is guaranteed that we would make a difference with God's help. Coming out of the closet, speaking up, and standing up is WORK. In Christ. Right On Amen Brother Love :) Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: John the Baptist on July 09, 2003, 07:50:34 AM ----Yes Lord, 'lighten up' & 'Right on, some encourage!?----
"He cried also in mine ears with a [loud voice], saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand. ... And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a [mark] upon the forheads of the [men that sigh and cry for all of ABOMINATIONS that be done [in the midst thereof]. And before we go on: Abominations are the conglomerate of the Great Whore & all of Her Daughters. (not U.S.A.) Only Believe is a 1/2 flawed 'g'ospel that is NO Gospel! it includes [all professed Christiandom denominations]. Rev. 18:4 are these ones [last message] just before their 666 repeat, or [their] 70AD slaughter. An Eternal life or an Eternal 'Blotting out of Existance' DECISION IS BEING MADE! Obadiah 16. VERY SOON NOW, MOST WILL BE ETERNALLY GONE, AND YOU ARE SAYING LIGHTEN UP WHILE THERE IS STILL HOPE! :'( :'( Back to the Master's Word in Eze. 9: And to the other He said [IN MINE HEARING], Go ye after him through the city, and smite ... but come not near [any man upon [whom is the mark]; and [BEGIN AT MY SANCTUARY.] Then they [BEGIN at the Ancient men which stood before the house.] ... And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, [I have done as thou hast commanded me.] Eze. 9 Wasted Words Lord?? 70AD. But now days it seems that no one knows who spiritual Israel is?? Rom. 2:28-29 And they want to clean up Caesar instead of 'themselves'. Rev. 3:9. And surely Lord your Question in Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 finds these ones still inside the closet 'sleeping!' Eze. 37 They have NO IDEA what the last testing of 666 will be?? So Lord, it seems to me that they want [you] to 'lighten' up? :'( :'( ---John Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on July 09, 2003, 02:42:05 PM Oklahoma Howdy to John the Baptist,
I guess that you didn't understand what I was trying to say, and I don't understand what you are trying to say. If you are saying that standing up, claiming Jesus, and taking a stance on right and wrong is bad, I would say that you are wrong. Shout the Gospel from the rooftops. Would you or would you not call this good works in the name of Jesus? If not, I wouldn't have a clue what you believe. If you wish to make a statement that good works are required for Salvation, I understand what you believe but I disagree. However, I am proposing good works, and we are still brothers in Christ. How does it make you angry when a fellow Christian proposes taking a stand and claiming Jesus? The good works that I do are from a grateful heart for what Jesus did on the cross for me and love for my Lord and Saviour. I don't do good works because they are required for salvation. The Holy Bible teaches that Jesus is the ONLY WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE, no man comes to the FATHER but through HIM. No man will ever be able to earn or pay for his or her salvation. If you think that good works pay for your salvation, I understand that doctrine but feel sorry for those who believe it. Good works should be done in joy, love, and a grateful heart, not from the view those works might earn their way to heaven. If we both have Jesus as our personal Lord and Saviour, we will see each other in heaven. The "Lighten Up" was meant for your attitude with fellow Christians who are talking about the very thing you say is required for salvation, good works. I, for one, am not talking about good works because I think they will earn my way to heaven or are required for salvation. I am talking about good works because they make Christians feel good, cause joy, and are a reasonable service for our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. In Christ. Title: The Lamb Post by: Ambassador4Christ on July 09, 2003, 02:48:10 PM Oklahoma Howdy to John the Baptist, I guess that you didn't understand what I was trying to say, and I don't understand what you are trying to say. If you are saying that standing up, claiming Jesus, and taking a stance on right and wrong is bad, I would say that you are wrong. Shout the Gospel from the rooftops. Would you or would you not call this good works in the name of Jesus? If not, I wouldn't have a clue what you believe. If you wish to make a statement that good works are required for Salvation, I understand what you believe but I disagree. However, I am proposing good works, and we are still brothers in Christ. How does it make you angry when a fellow Christian proposes taking a stand and claiming Jesus? The good works that I do are from a grateful heart for what Jesus did on the cross for me and love for my Lord and Saviour. I don't do good works because they are required for salvation. The Holy Bible teaches that Jesus is the ONLY WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE, no man comes to the FATHER but through HIM. No man will ever be able to earn or pay for his or her salvation. If you think that good works pay for your salvation, I understand that doctrine but feel sorry for those who believe it. Good works should be done in joy, love, and a grateful heart, not from the view those works might earn their way to heaven. If we both have Jesus as our personal Lord and Saviour, we will see each other in heaven. The "Lighten Up" was meant for your attitude with fellow Christians who are talking about the very thing you say is required for salvation, good works. I, for one, am not talking about good works because I think they will earn my way to heaven or are required for salvation. I am talking about good works because they make Christians feel good, cause joy, and are a reasonable service for our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. In Christ. DITTO ;D Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Shammu on January 03, 2006, 01:02:22 AM LET'S START A CHRISTIANS COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MOVEMENT! Right On Add your name to this movement:
1. Brother Love 2. John the Baptist 3. Mr. Blackeyedpeas 4. Mrs. Blackeyedpeas 5. Alfie 6. Ambassador4Christ 7. Durango 8. DreamWeaver 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: nChrist on January 03, 2006, 01:44:39 AM Hello Dreamweaver,
:D WOW! - You revived an old thread, and I remember it well. YES!!!!, I still think it is far past time for Christians to come out of the closet, stand up, and boldly claim JESUS as our Lord and Saviour. So, I want to leave my name on that list, and I will gladly sign another one. I also remember several very puzzling conversations with John The Baptist, even though they were over two years ago. Remembering something that long is pretty good for a grandpa. :D Love In Christ, Tom Proverbs 3:19-20 NASB The LORD by wisdom founded the earth, By understanding He established the heavens. By His knowledge the deeps were broken up And the skies drip with dew. Title: Re:The Lamb Post by: Shammu on January 03, 2006, 01:53:49 AM Hello Dreamweaver, AMEN!:D WOW! - You revived an old thread, and I remember it well. YES!!!!, I still think it is far past time for Christians to come out of the closet, stand up, and boldly claim JESUS as our Lord and Saviour. Love In Christ, Tom Proverbs 3:19-20 NASB The LORD by wisdom founded the earth, By understanding He established the heavens. By His knowledge the deeps were broken up And the skies drip with dew. You wouldn't believe how far back, this thread was.... After reading it, I had to add my name, to the list. Resting in the hands, of the Lord. Bob Nehemiah 9:5 Then the Levites--Jeshua, Kadmiel, Bani, Hashabneiah, Sherebiah, Hodiah, Shebaniah, and Pethahiah--said, Stand up and bless the Lord your God from everlasting to everlasting. Blessed be Your glorious name which is exalted above all blessing and praise. |