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 I believe these craft are real...I've seen them. I believe the govermnent knows full well they are here, and yet, the government covers them up...why?

 They are not "aliens" form far off galaxies, or even from our iown solar system. They are satans's fallen angels, in physical form. When they are in spirit form, they don't need any vessels, besides the human vessels which they try to posess. However, when they are in their physical form, they do need these craft to get around in...

Thoughts?

bronzesnake

Wow Heavy stuff..  I really like Science, and Science Fiction. I grew up watching the orgininal Star Trek in the 1960s.

I don't believe in UFOs nor aliens.  I really think it could be our imaginations working overtime.  Yes satan has really bad people working for him, but, God has much Stronger Angels Fighting them all the time.

I have seen some really weird things in the sky down in Southern, California when I lived there.  Oh, I Never took drugs either, just so all know.  My parents were very strict in everything, they protected me from a lot of evil.  Evil is everywhere and it is a full time job in fighting it!!

That's just my .02 cents worth for today, May God Bless Everyone on His Day Today!

Blessings,  \o/

I have thought a bit about this too Bronze.  Some people are certainly claiming to see something.  My thoughts are that much of it is secret aircraft the governement is working on.  I don't rule out the possibility it could be something of a (bad) spiritual nature.   Especially when they start talking about abducitons and what not.  All of these accounts I have heard usually have a very diabolical thread to them.  Sexual experimentation etc.   Just sounds demonic to me.   Also interesting is how the public in general embrasses the idea of extra terrestrials, and the constant bombardment of TV shows that feed us this stuff.

There do appear to be some hints about weird objects in the OT in regards to what we call UFO's today.  Like Ezekiels wheel within a wheel, and the chariot of fire.   Who knows!
I personally don't buy into the "other life" out there idea (not that there couldn't be) but I can find nothing biblical to support that.

Strange how UFO's travel billions of light years to observe poor little earthlings in secret, and yet abide by inter-galactic laws by turning on their lights as they enter the atmosphere.   :D   Things that make you go hmmmmm.

It would not surprise me if whole UFO thing winds up being  part of the lie that will spun after believers are removed from the earth during the rapture.   Just speculation on my part here though.   My first question to ET (if we ever met) would be, did Jesus Christ come in the flesh?

1Jo 4:2  Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

Grace and Peace!

I agree tim! I don't rule out that they can be something of a spiritual nature. But i have one theory.

I have observed one possibility. Most people consistently associate UFOs with aliens. To me this sounds like these people have been fooled by the government.

When people see a UFO the most common reaction would be: "Ahhh, aliens are coming to take over the earth!"  I'm guessing this is the most prominent one. :)

And then they will say, "I know it must be aliens because the government will say that we really saw nothing. If it wasnt aliens, why are they being so clandestine about it??"

Ergo, the fact that the UFOs may be top secret aircraft never crosses their mind. Their usual train of thought when they think of UFOs is this:first they think of aliens (other life forms), dwell on the fact that the government persistently says there are no ALIENS(notice they rarely ever say it isnt secret aircraft, they skip that all together and just add in "Unidentified and Unmanned aircraft" as some simply accepted axiom), and then believe that there really are aliens because the government keeps denying that fact (purposely obviously). So the thought that the UFOs may be top secret aircraft never gets to them. Good use of a double tiered reverse psychology there.

The media strongly proposes the conspiracy of UFOs with extraterristials to the point where they basically mean the same thing where UFO:alien is like vehicle:human.

Another interesting point is: according to physics the aerodynamics of a flying disc has the potential to be more invisible to radar (due to its shape), quieter, faster, hoverable, and just more stealthy than conventional aircraft. I am also betting that science has made many advancement in quantum physics which would provide the knowledge to engineer a pilotable flying saucer.

More support...Stories of UFOs knocking out power from vehicles...that has something to do with an electrical or magnetic field...something necessary to create a spin on a flying disc.

So I think they are top secret aircraft the government is trying to hide. The hottest UFO sighting spots are usually in places with a low human population (desert, rural). Less people, less witnesses?

I hope I get the chance to see one so I can find out for sure.  ;)

 I have seen UFO's, and with plenty of sound minded wittnesses.
These craft performed right angle turns, and at mege speed. No friends, the ones I saw were definately not ours.
 Remember, satan has an agenda, if we read the scriptures we can see satan is in charge of outerspace, and he is able to traverse the "burning stones" therein. I will recount my sightings if you wish, however, it is not really pertinant to this topic. They are here, they are sininster. Just look at all the similar descriptions of these demon like creatures...little grey creatures with huge, bug-like eyes. I believe they have been performing genetic experiments for thousands of years, in order to come up with a convincing cover for them to be able to "walk among us"...take over positions of power...etc.

Any thoughts on this?

Bronzesnake.

I think you have pretty well covered it BRNZ. Thats about what I think they are, are demons. Though I myself have never seen one. ;D Praise God!!

UFO's what ae they?

A lot of Hot Air :)

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2Ki 2:11   And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, [there appeared] a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

2Ki 2:12   And Elisha saw [it], and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

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I regard UFO's as chariots of the "other side"

Do you have a picture ?  If not, a description ?

Thanks !

I too believe these UFO's are demonic sightings.  I also think there may very well be new planes the goverment is working with.  Has anyone ever seen this footage:A single bright light, drifting in space slowly that suddenly darts off in another direction.  Seconds later another bright light goes by fast where the first ball of light was as though it was trying to attack.  Very interesting!  Does anyone know what I am talking about?

Sometimes I don't really know what to think about "aliens". God has created such wonderful things that I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to create another form of life elsewhere. Nothing is impossible when it comes to God! I don't know that I believe or want to believe in the evil kinds you are referring to. Honestly it scares me and I guess something that scary could only be the work of satan.

In the mid 90's the USA overnment has been experimenting with the Aurora scramjet, it was sighted above the North Sea by an ex naval worker who's job is was to identify targets. At the time of sighting he worked at a drilling platform several 100 miles off the coast. The Aurora was escorted by militairy airplanes to diguise it's radar pattern. Those type of aircraft are obviously not the ones I meant in my previous post.

I think the dandelight ("wandering light") sightings are part of the physical manifestation of a not-well coordinated celestial force.... ( you fill in the dots :) )

ROFL BrotherLove!!


How about this, that they're Weather Hot Air Balloons...



Blessings,  \o/

 Seeing is believing huh?  ;)

 Hello Aki. I can do better than having seen "footage" I saw the real thing, up close and personal.

 One summer evening at around 10:00pm, I was thrashing a good friend at a 'Pacific Theatre of Operations' naval war strategy game on Super Nintendo, it's a very detailed and involved game where you must build warships of every class and description, supply them with munitions and personnel, and in the case of aircraft carriers - they must be supplied with, scout planes, fighters, and bombers. Then, each player starts out with a number of bases from Hawaii to Port Moresby and everything in between, which must be fortified with aircraft, mines, ships, submarines, fuel, food, personal etc. You must also keep the general resident population happy as well...It's a very sweet game, which can, and has taken weeks to complete! So when my three sons came barreling downstairs yapping about the "fire" in the sky - we were less than enthusiastic about leaving the game behind in order to investigate. After the third, or fourth desperate plea from the boys, we reluctantly peeled our "seat warmers" off the chairs from which they were firmly planted.

 When we got outside and looked to the Eastern sky, we were absolutely astonished at what we saw! There was a huge, round,  bright white/yellow light in the clear, starry sky.

 It was impossible to estimate how far away from our location the object was, but when I reached out my arm, the object was about the same size as the back of my outstretched hand...It was huge! It was silent, and except for some slight shimmering, it was motionless. It was much larger than any full moon I had ever seen in my lifetime. There was, myself, my three sons, my wife, and my "enemy at sea", my very good friend - Paul. We all asked each other out loud, and without shifting our gaze from the object a few similar questions...some several times - such as...What the "he double hockey sticks" is it? It was most definitely not the moon, not a spotlight, and not anything that we could reasonably explain, although we all desperately tried!

 All at once, this huge bright, circular light decreased in size, and when I stretched out my arm again, the light was about the size of my outstretched tip of mu thumb! We were absolutely stunned and amazed! None of us had ever seen anything even close to this ever! Then it zapped back to the original size! We were ecstatic!!!!! No one even thought about a camera, not at all. We were transfixed on this object.

 Then, out of the Northern sky, a smallish object, which flashed white, red, and blue, came streaking across the sky from North to South and disappeared into nothing. It covered the entire horizon from North to South in a matter of a few seconds!!!!!!! We were ready to explode with excitement, and disbelief! But it got even more incredible my friends. A few moments after we witnessed this ultra fast craft whiz at break-neck speed across the entire horizon - The huge round light that we had first encountered, became just like the speed demon. Same colour, same size. It followed the exact same trajectory as the other object, quickly, and silently zipping across the sky and into nothingness!!!

 This is the God's honest truth my friends. I saw it, it happened.

 Are you ready for one more? I know it's incredible to have witnessed one sighting, but my wife, myself, and two good friends witnessed another one, at almost the same spot.

 Would anyone like to hear about it?

Bronzesnake

Absolutely!  From where in the world did you witness this?

 ;D

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  About ten years ago, I was the lead singer in a rock band. I wrote all the lyrics, and they were all Christian - However, if the others ever found out, they would have simultaneously crapped their tight-painted on leather pants. I had a knack for disguising the content, but the Christians always knew...they always asked me who the Christian writer was! He,he,he!

Here's a sample of a song in which a songwriter looses his soul to satan...hey, he picked the wrong manager right? :D
(all lyrics and music by Bronzesnake are copyrighted)

 Oh, and here we are, without a home, without a star. Ahh, how did you know?, what did you gain, pulling us under?
Oh! and who's to blame? I'm just a man, caught in the thunder.

(Chorus) Ew, come follow me, to the sea, burn with me in the sea of damnation. Listen to me fools you can be, burning with me in sea of damnation.


 Anyway. I had the band at my home here in Keswick, and we were celebrating the completion of the CD. Although I believed in Jesus back then, I wasn't "Born Again' so I still had some serious issues in my life at the time. I was a "rock star" :-[

 Well, my eldest son, Michael, was around 8 years old, and my Guitar player, Dave, and I went for a hike through the forest to find Michael. One we got to the "boys only, girls will we kicked out" fort, we were told that Mike had just left, but had taken the shortcut...shortcut?!. They kindly, and a wee bit scaredly (is that a word?) (if it ain't it should be, 'cusin' it worked real god like) So we walked back home. As we got to the side walk off of the beaten grass path, I noticed my wife and my "naval nemesis" , Paul. staring up into the sky. Dave and I both looked in the general area they were looking, and I'll be boiled in a huge pot of my own gravy, if we didn't see a huge shiny metallic cigar shaped craft floating silently across the sky. No wings, no tail rudder, no props at all....nothing!

 It was not a blimp, it was definitely metallic, it was like a highly polished suit of Armour. There was no gondola. It was cigar shaped and I estimated it to be around 300 to 400 feet in the air, and perhaps the same length and thickness as a 747 Jumbo jet - but without the wings, rudder, engines etc. It had no windows that we could see. The sky was cloudless and it was approximately  noon.
 Well, There you have it my friends. Both of
 these accounts (the previous post from my birthday, August 2)  Are both absolutely the God's honest truth my brothers and sisters...Amen?

Bronzesnake                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          

I agree with Bronze, ive never seen one but when i first came to know Christ i ask God a question and i think he answered...i recieved a Revelation form God that these things are demonic, my Revelation or Vision was this... in my dads house was a wall that had panaling... but on piece was really darker than the rest, i was sitting listning to music and faceing this wall, when all of a sudden i seen a beast that had two horns, and in the forehead of this beast was the head of and Alien. So that convinced me of who they are of...but we must be carefull to try the spirits as well, incase this Revelation came from Satan...which i doubt it was, because i had the same thing happen to me as Paul when he recieved some Revalations as well, there was given me an evil spirit to buffet me... and i had to do the same thing Paul did, and that is take pleasure in what this evil spirit was doing to me, so that the power of Christ could rest apon me. So be carefull what you wish for, or ask of God...this evil spirit is definately not a nice one. Also this belief is very wide spread amoung Christians, so that leaves out private interpretation.
And i hope im right.

God Bless

 Here's a very interesting little manual..have a look.

(http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/USMC1a.jpg)


Innocent enough right?

Look what's on page 9!!!
(http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/USMC6b.jpg)

 What are the implications!!! :D

Bronzesnake

UFO's are indeed real events, and are demonic, being the drowned children(nephilim I believe is the term) of the Watcher angels and human women.

I also believe they will play a part as aliens, probably helping the antichrist and false prophet. I think there are some answers connected with Mars and the numerous missions to that planet. The Mars moon "Phobos" may also play a key role later on. Some believe a comet pass may have already upset it's course.


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