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Why are atheists drawn to these christian forums? If you are frequent posters in christians forums such as this I think you know the answer. 99.9% of the Atheists who visit christian forums come to mock us and God. I just want to find one, just one christian forum where I can converse and share with christian brethren and sisters without some atheist with his blasphemous statements, mocking God, and mocking/ridiculing us for believing in Him and His Word. Is this too much to ask?

I say we permanently ban every member who is not a christian. I know many will say things such as:
1. Perhaps they come here seeking God and truth
2. We want to welcome everybody
3. Wouldn't that be a bit fundamentalist and undemocratic?
4. etc...

To that I say, there are plenty of forums, actually every christian forum I've found accepts atheist posters. So where does that leave us? The Atheists have plenty of christian forums to choose from, but the christians have not a single refuge, not a single sanctuary to get away from the mocking and seek advice and intelligent debate!

Let this be forum the forum solely for christians. The first on the net! What do you say people?

I don't agree. I don't think God or Jesus would either - sorry, I don't want to sound like I'm condemning you at all! I just think that if Jesus was alive today he would want to spend more time with unbelievers than with the people who are already saved. Afterall, we aren't supposed to keep our faith hidden under a bushel. lets not be selfish, but share it with everyone.

If atheists want to come here to try and disprove christianity, let us let them try. But remember that with God on our side nobody can beat us down!

I'd like to post these 2 verses:

If God Is for us who can be against us? Romans 8:31

But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. 1Peter 3:15

Sorry homie but I agree with Pinky here. Let atheists tell whatever they think...if you really feel offended by a comment you can either:

a)Tell this person that you feel offended

or

b)Ignore the person

But if they just want to mock they will eventually go away if you show them that you are not affected by their commentaries, but if you state that you get angry with every single commentary then they will continue to do it.

I expected such answers to my post, see:
But if you would please read and reflect over what I've written you couldn't honestly have written that reply. Although you are well-meaning, you won't get away from this fact:
And you know that what I am saying is supported by the Bible, I could dig up the verses but you probably know them anyhow. Be honest, do i sound like I am against missionary, don't you think I want to spread the word as well? You know this isn't about "keeeping the word to ourselves", it is about christians coming together without the darkness of atheists ruining the good athmosphere, causing strife and unhappiness.

God wants christians joining together without the influence of the infidels, he also wants us to mingle and be in the World with the infidels, bringing them the good news. These are not contradictory, because one can seek sanctuary with christians one day and be out in the world preaching or whatever the next day, you get it?  :)

Heh...Just a couple of points that draw my attention:

1. I do read your whole post.
2."Infidels"? Since when someone that doesn't believes in Jesus Christ gets the name of infidel?
3.The phrase "be out in the world preaching or whatever the next day" sounds a bit strange.

Oh and just a verse to finish this post:

1 Corinthians 5
10   Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

Samuel, why the harsh attitude? I don't understand why a supposed brother would behave like this towards a fellow brother, I just don't get it.

The tone through your post is not that of love. And if you have problems with my suggestion, why don't you give me some constructive criticism instead of trying to find something in my post to bash. What is the point of that? Why haven't you answered the very points of my argument instead of attacking use of words such as infidel (which is a viable expression by the way:
2Corinthians 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
1Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.) But let us not get caught up in details that have nothing to do with the suggestion I posed in the 1st post.

You all seem to think that starting ONE christian forum just for christians means the end of missionary/evangelism work, or that we should never interact with infidels, I have already explained several times that this is not the intent yet you persist on using it as an argument. When it clearly has been rebuked. Why? I don't see brothers coming togehter to find a good answer, I see people trying to insult my case simply because they don't agree with it, and clearly have problems explaining what the problem with my suggestion really is.

How, exactly, do you propose to define Christian, and find out who does and who doesn't meet that definition?

Athiests are not permitted to post their views on this forum.

Just report them to the moderator.

Forum Rules:

"...Disrespect, mockery, or blasphemy of Almighty God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, the Holy Bible, and Christianity are not permitted here. This would include the user name, anything in the user's profile, anything the user might post, and links to other sites that contain such material. Prohibited material obviously includes cursing, profanity, and "fill-in-the-blank" messages that suggest this material. Prohibited material also includes promotion or defense of alternate lifestyles, other religions, atheism, humanism, or other beliefs that are contrary to the teachings of the Holy Bible. Material of such types will be edited or deleted and the user may be banned. These and other rules posted by the Administrator of Christians Unite are final and not subject to debate...."

Grace and peace to you.

I have seen on a Christian forum before people that were interested in becomeing saved and then other people that were trying to persuade that person that Christians are just trying to scare them into their religion.  In the end some of the people that were trying to lead the people away from being saved became interested themselves.  How do we know how God is going to use this forum or any other forum?  If someone is an atheist or just lost and they get a bad first impression of Christianity then they might be pushed away.  If we make a forum that not all is welcome then they will think that we are trying to be better then them.

Why not ask the moderator if he will make one page where you can discuss with other Christians exclusively?

 That way, we can still be open to leading the lost, and those who wish to have an uninterrupted conversation with their fellow Christians from time to time, may do so.

         Ebia:
      I know I don't agree with you much but on we agree. There are many definitions for Christian.
           
                 1. Curch membership.
                 2.  Jehovahs witnesses say they are the only Christians.
                 3. Mormons claim to be Christian.
                 4. Than what about the ones that claim that just because they live in the US that makes them Christian, and yes there are ones that belive that.

            The list could go on.

Thanks, it seems that this forum is already the forum of my suggestion, only the rules are not being enforced. We need to better ourselves at that.

Kris777, I have already adressed the issue you are posing several times :)

Ebia and Forrest:
The only ones banned would be those who obviously are not christians, they would reveal themselves by:
1. Blasphemous remarks/rants
2. Constantly refering to the Bible as "That stupid book" or "That old useless book"
3. Plainly saying they are not christian.

The goal is a forum where christians can interact without constantly being mocked for their faith.

 
    Homie:
   So you consider Jahovahs Witnesses which claim that the Trinity does not exsist, which goes agenst the sites statment of faith.
http://forums.christiansunite.com/index.php?board=23;action=display;threadid=3569
 
   As for Mormons "Curch of Later Day Saints" to be Christian?
   As for not useing objectionable words we've had as much from "Christians" as Nonchristians talk to some of the old hands from before the crash we had, ask them about Bill/Friends. He was worse than any Atheist.

     2. The ADMIN wants this site to be used when posable as a Witnessing tool, and it has been, and is still.

I don't see a problem with mormons and JW's as they don't come to christian forums with the intent of wrecking havoc, they come because they consider themselves christian. Wheter they are is a another debate I don't want to get into in this thread.

I doubt this is true, if it is, it is truly sad.

Yup. Truly, truly sad.
 :'(

It is, and it is.

Let us all remember: The doctors aren't supposed to be curing each other . . .

Most atheists are searching.
They want to believe in God but the rejection they acquire through needing to touch, see, hear, taste, and smell to prove something is tangible seems stronger than an open heart to the Spirit of God through faith.

Perhaps someone here might have the key to that closed heart through which the sword of the Holy Spirit will prick it.

Ollie

    Homie:
    Frist, you do not own the site unless you are the Admin. Ray. Second, and I don't think Ray would go for it, and if He did I for one would leave, This is not the only Christian board I post on. Others have tried to take this one over before, and that is what I belive you are doing, other wise you would have gone to the Admin. You are alone in trying to close the board to nonChristian. Why don't you start your own site than you could run it the way you want.

                       Forrest

Oklahoma Howdy to Homie,

There is a desperate need to share the Gospel of God's Grace with the lost. For that reason, the lost will always be welcome here.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Really?

As of late, I've felt rather unwelcome here. :(

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Hi! Welcome!

You are correct. What you want is Christian fellowship, and fellowship can only be among believers. Evangelism is another matter, and we need to maitain the distinction.

Sorry to hear that. Did not know of this.

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Can anyone give an example of such mocking, so it can be recognized and worked on to overcome.

I am not sure I understand mocking????

I was an Atheist once upon a time. A long. long time ago, but God lead me to truth.
Who can know what tool God can use to save?
 :)

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To Sincereheart, Ollie, and Forrest -

Thanks! :)

Perhaps mocking isn't quite the most accurate word to describe the kind of stuff on the anti-catholic threads, though there is certainly an element of mocking.  I was responding more to the spirit of the thread than the precise wording.

Homie,
I can really empathize with your feelings on this issue. Since Jesus said there will be so few who will be saved, it is hard to find true Christians in the world. Unfortunately, Jesus also said there will be many who call him 'Lord' but will not enter the kingdom of heaven. These people truly do think they're saved but don't understand what Jesus means by "knowing" Him. Virtually everyone who goes to church thinks he's going to heaven. This contradicts Christ's words. Because of this, there will ALWAYS be wolves in sheep's clothing who consider themselves Christians. When there is deceit like this, it will always be difficult to weed out the true Christians from the "professed" Christians. So all i can rely on is Jesus's words that "by their fruit you will recognize them." I think an easy solution to this would be to have an ignore list where we don't even see the posts from people who disagree with Jesus. But since we don't have that option, whenever i'm tired of having to defned christ's words to people who don't understand them, I simply go to threads where there are more people who believe Jesus than disagree with Him.

   Ebia:
     Some of it is in the true spirit of learning, but a lot was, and is complete Mockry, the catholic, anti-catholic, Also the Gifts- anti gifts, at times I belive they all need a trip to the woodshed.

Forrest,
Jesus was the angriest at the Pharisees, people who claimed to see. I get just as angry at churches who blatantly disobey Jesus and use His name to do so. Mockery is simply defaming a person or group simply to mock it rather than because the group has heretical teachings. Sometimes standing up for Christ means standing against those who use his name but deliberately oppose his words.

Or standing up to those who deliberately twist His words to fit their take on things and their personal agenda. Or standing up to those deliberately twist others beliefs, and refuse to listen when they are corrected on what they are mistakenly spreading as the truth.

I agree with Jesus, word for word, Rich, so i don't belong in that category.

There is very few places for a christian to go to get away and rest. I am an active member of christian forums where I do missionary work there, but I come here for respite, and fellowship. What fellowship is there with belial.