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I’m not really quite sure if this is the right spot to put this in but nevertheless—

I have been dating a guy for a few months now; he has a grand persona. Except a couple days ago I acquired the fact that he was an atheist. Now, I love God but I’ve also come to care for this guy. Is it alright to have attractions to an atheist? If this continues any further will I merely get burned? He is quite nicer than most other people I meet....

      Hariko:
     I'm sorry but the Bible is very clear on this.
    2 Corinthians 6
13   Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged.
14   Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15   And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

   

Hariko,
Obvioulsy you know which posts to ignor.  Children get on line (Iamdeath????) and believe they are really funny, when in fact they are just morons.

You should not search outside of our faith for a relationship.  The pain in breaking off a relationship now, with a confessed atheist will be much less than the pain in the long run if you try to keep the relationship going.  He does not believe in Jesus.  You do.  No gap can be wider.  
The worst scenerio - he leads you away from The Lord.  Which he will try to do, consciencely or otherwise.

        Iamdeath:
    We are Christians here, and go by the Bible where in the Bible does it say that" GOD wants us to be happy"?

Actually, you are.

I didn't say GOD wanted us happy you did. We never said that all nonChristians are bad.
     As you know we are Christians here, not as many who use the name but do not live the life, we also live our lives by the Bible, if not we would be like the rest of the world, and you wouldn't bother with us. We prove that Satin is a lie,and that is what bothers you most.
   I'm now going to answer you with the Bible.                    
   MT 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell
REV 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
REV 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
     This life here on Earth is not all there is.
    Hariko came here for Christian Counsel not nonchristian.
    MT 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
    How do you figure we are the ones causing hate? You are the one that is saying the hatefull things. Its just as Jesus said.
JN 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you.
JN 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
MK 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

For you were once darkness, but are now light in the Lord. Walk as children of light, for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth, proving what is well pleasing to the Lord. Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even reprove them. For the things which are done by them in secret, it is a shame even to speak of. But all things, when they are reproved, are revealed by the light, for everything that reveals is light. Therefore he says, "Awake, you who sleep, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you." Therefore watch carefully how you walk, not as unwise, but as wise; redeeming the time, because the days are evil. (Eph 5:8-16)

Hariko,

I have been dating a guy for a few months now; he has a grand persona.
After a couple of months, you've only started to scratch the surface of what a person is or is not.


Except a couple days ago I acquired the fact that he was an atheist.
This statement is a prime example of what I mean by and why I say you've just scratched the surface.


Is it alright to have attractions to an atheist?
You can be attracted to many, many things, it's how act on your attraction that will determine whether it's for good or bad.  


Now, I love God but I’ve also come to care for this guy

If this continues any further will I merely get burned? He is quite nicer than most other people I meet....

I'm in my 2nd. half century.  In that time, I've seen a number of couples who were of different beliefs get together.  Most didn't survive.  Some did.  If I were to guess, I would say you will not "merely" get burned but will get VERY burned.

Forrest's post from
2 Corinthians 6
14  Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Says it all concerning being with a non-believer.    Take care.

Ok, here is my two pennies worth...

Being a Christian, and having the beliefs that I have, I couldn't ever see myself going out with a Non-Christian (least of all an atheist) again. I believe that you have to be very careful when getting into relationships with people. Really pray about it!! You have to know that it is God's will that the relationship happens - and you will know!!

I went out with my last boyfriend for 2 years. He is a Christian and we thought we would be together forever, however, we split up and I couldn't understand why. Now, a year on I am beginning to understand why. Although I prayed about getting into the relationship and heard a 'yes' from God I can now see why we split up. I really believe that as Christians we need to be with someone who will strengthen our faith - someone who we can read the Bible with, and learn and grow in faith with. The biggest thing i think is that we can pray with our partner! I didn't really do any of those things with my last boyfriend. I don't think that is particularly why we split up - I truely believe that it was Gods will and plan for that to happen so that I could learn from the experience. Otherwise he wouldn't have said yes to the relationship in the first place would he!?

Anyways, sorry for my ramblings - I will just reiterate my main points:

I believe that you should be able to read the Bible, Grow and learn more together and most importantly be able to pray together.

This is purely from my experience in the past. I know everyone is different. Some Christians I know have married their Non-Christian partners and are still married - My parents are two such people, but I have seen the problems it has caused. I may post more about this another time, but i think I have probably said enough for now!!

God Bless,
Marie

I guess i shall put my two cents worth in also. I enjoyed your post pinky, well said. As a Christian myself, I find it hard to meet another person whom i have the same likes and dislikes and an awesome personality. Don't get me wrong there are many out there, but in the matters of relationships...that area must be left up to God entirely. I've been single now for a year and a half because I'm trusting God to bring someone into my life. I'm only 16, but I still trust Him regarding those matters. I know first hand that if we take try to take them outta God's hands' we'll only mess up and mess up miserably. Sometimes that means making a mistake. I know all to well how satan can enter in and mess things up. he gets you to thinking 'well, God wants me to be happy, so as long as I'm happy oh well" That goes along with the same mentality, "If it doesn't hurt anyone, it's ok" the Bible is clear on this subject of dating a non-believer. Forrestt summed it up quite clearly. It's not God's will for believers to be un-equally yoked. I used to have an attraction for someone myself. She claimed to be a Christian, but her actions and words betrayed her proclamation. I grew to care for her, and i got burned in a major way, but i just sucked it up and trusted God from that point on to bring someone into my life and I hope that He's done that now. Without going into further detail about my personal life, let me tell you this, many will come and many will go, but the Lord will prompt you when the right one has come. Just trust in Him and He will provide for you. Just a few thoughts and may this message find you in His will and His grace. God Bless

In His Service,
Joshua

Is God working through you to bring and show Him the message of Christ? Christ did not come to save the righteous, He came to save the unrighteous. However it could be a big chunk to bite off and chew on. I suggest prayer and giving it to Jesus. Did you know an unbelieving husband, if such were to occur to you, is sanctified by a believing wife and visa/ versa? 1 Corinthians 7:13-14

WolfBrother, I know that I just got to know him. It's not like I wrote I loved him and would drop into depression after leaving him did I? I’ve just taken a likening to him; nothing more. Hard to find many people in the world whom I can actually claim that about, though.

IAmDeath's post wasn't necessarily that bad. I've seen people claim God put them on Earth to have 'fun'. Either way I don’t see how calling him/or her a child and a moron is going to help anything. I admit his/her reply after that was worse but perhaps it wouldn’t have been if pointless insults hadn’t of arrived first.

Hariko,

WolfBrother, I know that I just got to know him. It's not like I wrote I loved him and would drop into depression after leaving him did I?  I’ve just taken a likening to him; nothing more. Hard to find many people in the world whom I can actually claim that about, though.  


Your first post seemed to me that you were looking for advice/opinion about establishing a relationship with a non-believer.  I replied in that vein - based on my lifes experience - if anything I wrote offended, I apologize and ask forgiveness for the offense.

Why are atheists drawn to these christian forums? I think bsmith24's post answers it all. I just want to find one, just one christian forum where I can converse and share with christian brethren and sisters without some atheist with his blasphemous statements, mocking God and us for believing in Him and His Word. Is this too much to ask?

I say we permanently ban every member who is not a christian. I know many will say things such as:
1. Perhaps they come here seeking God and truth
2. We want to welcome everybody
3. Wouldn't that be a bit fundamentalist and undemocratic?
4. etc...

To that I say, there are plenty of forums, actually every christian forum I've found accepts atheist posters. So where does that leave us? The Atheists have plenty of christian forums to choose from, but the christians have not a single refuge, not a single sanctuary to get away from the mocking!

Let this forum the forum solely for christians. The first on the net! What do you say people?

(I'll make this a seperate thread)

I’m sorry, but I really don’t believe that I have been brainwashed. When you are brainwashed you have absolutely no choice about the things you say, do or believe. I know that at any point in my life I could walk away from my faith and stop believing in God (you did after all) – I am not planning on doing that EVER as I have seen God at work in too many ways and I completely trust and believe in Him.


Again, I simply don’t agree with you that everyone is born an atheist. An atheist is someone who has formed the opinion that God doesn’t exist. When you are born you cannot possibly have beliefs such as this because you don’t know anything about God at all. The same goes for people who live in the most remote parts of the world, who never hear anything about God – I would not call them atheists either. They simply haven’t had the chance to hear anything about Him to form their own opinions


No, no and no again. Christians are not brought up with guilt. That is not what the faith is about at all. YES you have to admit that you are a sinner – you cannot deny that you have never done anything wrong in your whole life. Even if you haven’t broken a religious law such as one of the 10 commandments, I am sure you have, for example, lied to someone, which is seen as wrong by everyone, not just Christians! Christianity is actually about having no guilt, because Jesus paid for all the sins we were ever going to commit when he made himself a perfect sacrifice on the Cross.
Yes I do fear God, but I also love Him and want to do my best for Him. It is not a fear in the way that I am scared of violent people, but a respectful fear, in the same way that I fear my earthly parents.


Please can you explain how it is backward? Just because it is ancient, doesn’t mean it is irrelevant – I believe that although Christian morality that you find in the Bible was written thousands of years ago, it is ‘alive’  - Perhaps a Christian Cliché, but it works so I’m sticking with it! It is still as relevant today as it was back in Jesus’ day.


Can you back this up please? Perhaps it is in there, but I would encourage you to show people where exactly so that they can form their own opinions instead of blindly following what you say.


I’m not entirely sure about what you are saying here…
The Bible clearly says that God is love and the Devil is completely Evil.
Are you saying that the Devil could have influenced people to write this?
If you are, what do you suggest his motives are? To conceal WHAT truth from people exactly? I don’t get it.


I’m not going to call you a Satanist, but neither would I call myself one. Yes, I believe in the devil, but I do not worship him. I know he exists, and that he is the father of lies and evil.

Unless the Father who sent Jesus draws him then he can't come to Christ.  He is an anti-christ by his own testimony. Be careful not to become a partaker of his evil deeds.

For you were once darkness, but are now light in the Lord. Walk as children of light, for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth, proving what is well pleasing to the Lord. Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even reprove them. For the things which are done by them in secret, it is a shame even to speak of. But all things, when they are reproved, are revealed by the light, for everything that reveals is light. Therefore he says, "Awake, you who sleep, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you." Therefore watch carefully how you walk, not as unwise, but as wise; redeeming the time, because the days are evil. (Eph 5:8-16)

For many deceivers have entered into the world, who do not confess Jesus Christ coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the anti-christ. Look to yourselves, so that we may not lose those things which we worked out, but that we may receive a full reward. Everyone transgressing and not abiding in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house, nor speak a greeting to him. For he who speaks a greeting to him is partaker of his evil deeds. (2Jo 1:7-11)

No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up in the last day. It is written in the prophets, 'They will all be taught by God.' Therefore everyone who hears from the Father, and has learned, comes to me. (Joh 6:44-45)