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Title: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on May 29, 2004, 04:33:08 PM
my church is one of them time to go hunting :-\


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 05, 2004, 07:16:22 PM
well we all met last week to discuss our church closeing about 300 people all the tv people were thier. lots of gut wrenching stories , wasnt a dry eye in the house . to my amazement the meatting turned into i big anti catholic asablishment talk , even from the older folk . we are going to fight the closeing, we are hireing lawyers. the church will close anyhow but we want the truth to come out . they say were closeing for many reasons none are true. the truth is the law suite of sexual abuse and a cover up by cardinal law. whom has a new sweatheart deal at the vatican.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 05, 2004, 07:20:48 PM
well i have now visited a very nice small methodist church that i liked, and a conservative congretional church i liked also very small.next i have a Episcopal church on my list and another congretional church.

note the catholic church nearest us now has a singing openly gay preist , so thats out.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: maryann on June 07, 2004, 06:18:41 PM
  It is quite sad what is happening in the Catholic church.
Sadly it is happening to many others also.  Just wait you'll
see more closures.  Important is a personal relationship
with Jesus Christ.  We as babies were dedicated to the
God and had a sponsor.  We  were again committing at 13, but
with a sponsor.  Now that we are our own sponsor as to what
happens in our lives, it is time to re-dedicate our lives to The
Living Savior Jesus Christ.  Since being disallusioned by CHURCH.
I have said a re-dedication prayer and gave my heart and life
to Jesus and have been extremely happier.  I am now able to
truly KNOW, LOVE AND SERVE the Lord.  Also have been able
to be a comfort to those who are so disappointed in what is
happening.  All churches need prayer.  Mainly to get to know
Jesus personally and live a life that will get us to Heaven by
knowing that Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary, Jesus suffered
and died for us on the cross. But He did rise again to go back
to the Father in heaven and to send us the Power of The Holy
Spirit to lead and guide our lives.  To believe that Jesus shed
His Blood for us and that is The only way to heaven, to ask
forgiveness for our sins and ask Him into our hearts, then
live for Him....... we will get to Heaven.   HE must be LORD of
our LIVES>  the church is where you hear about Jesus.....
Jesus even when we are not in church...... will get us there.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: ollie on June 07, 2004, 06:37:09 PM
my church is one of them time to go hunting :-\
Is it the beginning, the ending, or perhaps both?


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 07, 2004, 08:51:12 PM
my church is one of them time to go hunting :-\
Is it the beginning, the ending, or perhaps both?
it strandge for me, most here are devistated. but for me its like being at a funeral , but have a baby born into the family in the same day. i see a lot of hope , and im excited for the future.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: Tibby on June 10, 2004, 09:36:28 AM
Yeah, sorry, Ollie. Bad news ahead: It is still going strong and getting stronger. The RC churchs here are growing. A friend of mine, Fr. Mark, who runs a full-pew church in one town, is opening up a mission in another town already. Down here, dispite the lack of Native English speaking preists, and the shortages of Priests in America in general (who would want to work in this living hell created by the Anti-Catholics), their is much growth. Many of the other pastors are turning to litergy is some for or another, weither is prayer life, or sunday mornings, etc, etc.  :) ;D It is a great work God is doing.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: ollie on June 11, 2004, 08:20:45 PM
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Yeah, sorry, Ollie. Bad news ahead:
Why, sorry? Because you are reporting bad news to come?

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It is still going strong and getting stronger. The RC churchs here are growing.
I don't doubt that it is. The Bible predicts it. Only it is not mentioned or refered to as RC churches.


 
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A friend of mine, Fr. Mark, who runs a full-pew church in one town, is opening up a mission in another town already. Down here, dispite the lack of Native English speaking preists, and the shortages of Priests in America in general (who would want to work in this living hell created by the Anti-Catholics),
Only those associated with the church located at Rome perhaps? I donot know where "down here" is located?

 
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their is much growth. Many of the other pastors are turning to litergy is some for or another, weither is prayer life, or sunday mornings, etc, etc.  :) ;D It is a great work God is doing.
What tells you it is a great work God is doing? What is your standard to compare against to know?

Ollie


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 12, 2004, 03:12:37 PM
Yeah, sorry, Ollie. Bad news ahead: It is still going strong and getting stronger. The RC churchs here are growing. A friend of mine, Fr. Mark, who runs a full-pew church in one town, is opening up a mission in another town already. Down here, dispite the lack of Native English speaking preists, and the shortages of Priests in America in general (who would want to work in this living hell created by the Anti-Catholics), their is much growth. Many of the other pastors are turning to litergy is some for or another, weither is prayer life, or sunday mornings, etc, etc.  :) ;D It is a great work God is doing.
thats great to here,but in my little corner of the world, it seems as though we are heading in the oposite direction . politicaly and spiritialy.boston it very libreral, and its hard to picture a world other than your surroundings.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: His Messenger on June 12, 2004, 05:47:55 PM
Just like K-Marts


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 12, 2004, 10:27:19 PM
Just like K-Marts
funny they closed a k-mart in brockton ma. then a church went in.


Title: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: Brother Love on June 14, 2004, 06:23:39 AM
No more Bingo :)


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: C C on June 14, 2004, 05:32:25 PM
 :'(  I'm sorry for all who has their church closing.  I would think I would die if my church closed.

Although, look on the  bright side, you now have a perfectly good excuse to leave the Catholic church without making anybody mad.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: Tibby on June 14, 2004, 06:12:13 PM
Yeah, sorry, Ollie. Bad news ahead: It is still going strong and getting stronger. The RC churchs here are growing. A friend of mine, Fr. Mark, who runs a full-pew church in one town, is opening up a mission in another town already. Down here, dispite the lack of Native English speaking preists, and the shortages of Priests in America in general (who would want to work in this living hell created by the Anti-Catholics), their is much growth. Many of the other pastors are turning to litergy is some for or another, weither is prayer life, or sunday mornings, etc, etc.  :) ;D It is a great work God is doing.
thats great to here,but in my little corner of the world, it seems as though we are heading in the oposite direction . politicaly and spiritialy.boston it very libreral, and its hard to picture a world other than your surroundings.

You area is also very Catholic, isn’t it? Here, Priests get spit on, and dead animals thrown on their lawns. Maybe there is some merit to the theory that the Church is strongest when amidst persecution. Or perhaps this is the case where 2 workers are in a feild, and one is taken, spoken of in Matt. God is weeding out the church world wide of the Liberal element. Amen!


Ollie, you seem a little defensive. I was only joking with you about the bad news part, implying you more protest leaning beliefs make you anti-Catholic. I guess the joke isn’t as funny when you have to explain it. :P Or maybe it wasn’t very humorous to start with. :-D Man, ever since the last carpet bombing, no one has been in the mood for interdenom jokes. ;D


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 14, 2004, 09:27:03 PM
tibby

you said ........You area is also very Catholic, isn’t it? Here, Priests get spit on, and dead animals thrown on their lawns. Maybe there is some merit to the theory that the Church is strongest when amidst persecution. Or perhaps this is the case where 2 workers are in a feild, and one is taken, spoken of in Matt. God is weeding out the church world wide of the Liberal element. Amen!

this is true here also, and its discusting.but what i see going on in front of my eyes in boston , and its not on the news ( i have been attending meatings with preist and church leaders) and its a total mess, up here no other catholic church is equiped, or wants to take in our parish. but we have been welcomed by protestan churches.



Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 14, 2004, 09:38:21 PM
:'(  I'm sorry for all who has their church closing.  I would think I would die if my church closed.

Although, look on the  bright side, you now have a perfectly good excuse to leave the Catholic church without making anybody mad.
hi,Candice Cavalier
thank you,
the funny thing is when i came to cu.com i felt as though i as a christian that was attending the wrong church.(catholic).
so i tryed to learn more about other peoples veiws here on other denominations and the catholic faith.also why catholics do certian practices. so after reading the bible and books. ive found that it seems that i was wrong . feeling that the catholics have it more right than other christian denominations. the problem in my local area is we now just lost the only good catholic preist. the other two have issues that i will not get into here.and do to that i will not attend a church were the spiritial leader is practicing things against my faith.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: JudgeNot on June 14, 2004, 09:43:43 PM
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feeling that the catholics have it more right than other christian denominations.
 ???
Butcha, Butcha, Butcha... Aintya learned NOTHIN yet???
 ;D

I wish you could come west and spend just one sunday with me and the congregation I worship with.  Just one short two-hour service...

 ;D

Love you Bro - May God be with you in your search.  Don't your bosses (or fathers or priests or whatever you call them)  ;D have any advice on where the members should go upon closing of their perish??????



Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 14, 2004, 09:55:14 PM
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feeling that the catholics have it more right than other christian denominations.
 ???
Butcha, Butcha, Butcha... Aintya learned NOTHIN yet???
 ;D

I wish you could come west and spend just one sunday with me and the congregation I worship with.  Just one short two-hour service...

 ;D

Love you Bro - May God be with you in your search.  Don't your bosses (or fathers or priests or whatever you call them)  ;D have any advice on where the members should go upon closing of their perish??????


he is angry with the archdieses of boston also , my preist is being sent to the russian front . hes a Catholic priest his advise is to go to what Catholic church you feel comfortible with. the problem is their is none that fits the bill around here. so we are shopping churches.of many types of  congregations but i still think that the catholic base , not the pope or rome, is the closest to haveing sunday worship the way Christ wanted it.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: JudgeNot on June 14, 2004, 10:02:52 PM
That's it!  The Russian Front!  :)
Hey - don't laugh - I understand the rivers there have trout as big as your leg.  (That is if you like to fish.)

In all seriousness, I've mentioned in other posts (you may have to look back aways) I have many, many members of my family (uncles, aunts, cousins) who are Catholic.  The small Texas town they all live in would wither up and die if the Catholic Church closed. So I DO know the seriousness of your delima.

I will be praying for you.

Jim


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 14, 2004, 10:05:56 PM
That's it!  The Russian Front!  :)
Hey - don't laugh - I understand the rivers there have trout as big as your leg.  (That is if you like to fish.)

In all seriousness, I've mentioned in other posts (you may have to look back aways) I have many, many members of my family (uncles, aunts, cousins) who are Catholic.  The small Texas town they all live in would wither up and die if the Catholic Church closed. So I DO know the seriousness of your delima.

I will be praying for you.

Jim
the strange thing is i dont concider myself catholic. and i have told my preist that , but he still lets me run the youth program and teach classes


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: Tibby on June 14, 2004, 11:23:55 PM
There is a really shortage. The guy who does the Latino Service in our town is an Indian, with the thickest accent I’ve ever heard! It doesn’t help that is congregation speaks about as much English as him. ;D lol. THey only keep him around because he is a good soccer player (that part isn't a joke) ;D

It is getting bad. The Bishop just sent a friend of mine (Roman) to Missouri to get training, because it is the nearest Conservative school that will admit a Catholic or ministry! When there aren’t any Conservative schools in the rusty buckle of the bible belt, you know we are in trouble.  ;D and :'( at the same time.

We need a weeding out before he have a revival! The crop is ready, but the workers are so few!


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BlackmanX on June 17, 2004, 12:25:21 PM

I am  pretty  liberal.  But  some  of the  things  I am seeing  in  our society  are  beginning  to trouble me.  There are a  lot of activist  movements  that are  anti-family.  I cannot stand those and  I think we  should  watch  out  for  them.   Too many "isms"  out  there.  Capitalism,  marxism,  communism, feminism,  all the isms  in  the  world and  in history promote  one  group  while putting  down the rest.  Abandon  all  "isms"  people.  They  threaten  our  world.  

There  is a  war  against  the  family.  The  Church is  under attack.  The seed  of  destruction  has  been  planted and  from this  seed  grows  a new  nightmare.  One  from which humanity  may  never  awaken.

peace.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: Tibby on June 17, 2004, 05:32:24 PM
How very pessimistic of you. However, I disagree with your gloom and doom theory. Of course we will recover. Of course will “wake up” We always do. We get knocked down, but we get back up gain, no problem.

Besides, I don't think we can put Capitalism, marxism, and communism on the same level as feminism. What is wrong with "isms" anyways?


Title: Re:70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: ollie on June 17, 2004, 07:30:21 PM
No more Bingo :)
or blue light specials in Brockton.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 18, 2004, 10:23:32 PM
well we prayed to God, that our church wouldnt close.amen

they wouldnt talk to us. :'(


then we hired a lawyer.$$$$$$$$

now they want to talk with us. :-\

is God working in mysterious ways? ;D




Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: Tibby on June 18, 2004, 11:56:56 PM
YAY!!!! ;D


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 22, 2004, 10:27:53 PM
we just had another meatting at our church about its closeing.
we invited all the catholic preist .
they all came, we had a quistion and answer forum, it was heatted at times emotions were flying high, i felt bad for the preist they had a diffucult time managing the anger and emotions.but one of them did well , two of them got angree and lost it themselfs.the oyher two were very old and weak, and just had a hard time in general.but it was good that they came to try and help.


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: ollie on June 23, 2004, 09:16:06 AM
Yeah, sorry, Ollie. Bad news ahead: It is still going strong and getting stronger. The RC churchs here are growing. A friend of mine, Fr. Mark, who runs a full-pew church in one town, is opening up a mission in another town already. Down here, dispite the lack of Native English speaking preists, and the shortages of Priests in America in general (who would want to work in this living hell created by the Anti-Catholics), their is much growth. Many of the other pastors are turning to litergy is some for or another, weither is prayer life, or sunday mornings, etc, etc.  :) ;D It is a great work God is doing.
thats great to here,but in my little corner of the world, it seems as though we are heading in the oposite direction . politicaly and spiritialy.boston it very libreral, and its hard to picture a world other than your surroundings.

You area is also very Catholic, isn’t it? Here, Priests get spit on, and dead animals thrown on their lawns. Maybe there is some merit to the theory that the Church is strongest when amidst persecution. Or perhaps this is the case where 2 workers are in a feild, and one is taken, spoken of in Matt. God is weeding out the church world wide of the Liberal element. Amen!


Ollie, you seem a little defensive. I was only joking with you about the bad news part, implying you more protest leaning beliefs make you anti-Catholic. I guess the joke isn’t as funny when you have to explain it. :P Or maybe it wasn’t very humorous to start with. :-D Man, ever since the last carpet bombing, no one has been in the mood for interdenom jokes. ;
implying you more protest leaning beliefs make you anti-Catholic

I prefer proChrist rather than "anti-anything".
However if proChrist appears as anything that speaks out against "antiChrist. then so be it.
I am not a protester, but just a Christian or believer in Christ.
If the word of God seems to protest anything that violates His word then so be it.

To God be the glory.

Ollie


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BUTCHA on June 23, 2004, 11:08:59 PM
i dont beleave you i think you are anti something................................................................. ...............................................



anti- anti christian ;D


Title: Re: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: BFWard on July 21, 2004, 01:47:28 AM


Although, look on the  bright side, you now have a perfectly good excuse to leave the Catholic church without making anybody mad.

That's a joke, right?


Title: 70 catholic church closeings in boston
Post by: Brother Love on July 21, 2004, 05:47:12 AM
well we prayed to God, that our church wouldnt close.amen

they wouldnt talk to us. :'(


then we hired a lawyer.$$$$$$$$

now they want to talk with us. :-\

is God working in mysterious ways? ;D




NOPE!

$$$$$$$$might work :)

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