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Title: Gay Families. Post by: Symphony on May 19, 2004, 05:23:23 PM Notice, gay families.
This week's U.S. News magazine(May 24), centerfold article: "The Rise of the Gay Family".(p.40) Shows two men, the "Calhoun Family", middle class, upscale suburban residence in Georgia, holding hands with their two year old "daughter". Cites more and more gay "families"--two moms, two dads... in "conservative" America. My thoughts: Interestingly, some pages earlier, in the same edition, lengthy article on what a few of our troops have been doing to Iraqi prisoners--with (very) graphic pictures. I don't suppose I'm suppose to notice any connection here. At the same time we're chronicling our increasing detour down a road of gay liberty and "freedom", we are being shown literally to our face how we are treating others. And the abuse article mentions that prisoner abuse occurs usually because it comes down the chain of command. As long as economics permit it, gays may be nice enough. If we ever have economic trouble, and push comes to shove, surprise me with any revelation that the then gay culture in power and control of our body politic will treat you mercifully or kindly, especially if they find out that you read the bible Or, perhaps, if you even happen to mention what our Lord says about homosexuality. In Deuteronomy 23, the footnoted translation, in my RSV, for the male temple prostitutes, is "dog". I'm not a Catholic, but read what they did to Sebastian, when the Roman Army he'd joined found out he was a Christian. It is prophesied we will suffer for Christ's sake--it is our "good and reasonable service", says Paul, in Romans. Somewhere too Jesus warns of "wolves in sheep's clothing". Gay lifestyle isn't something you go along with. It's an abomination, says the Old Testament laws, and prohibited and roundly condemned in the New--clearly. This is first time in the recorded history--literally, recorded history, of nations, and our nation, actually legislating homosexuality--and marriage as homosexual. Incidentally, speaking of Canada, one of the former contributors here, said her father, a clergyman there, no longer performs any marriages, for fear he will be required then to perform gay ones. It's becoming aggressive, and they may be kind to you--or even merciful and magnanimous--but notice, it's only if you never cross them. You won't want to be crossing them. Not with the Word of God, that is. Title: Gay Families. Post by: His Messenger on May 19, 2004, 05:32:06 PM CHRISTIAN-UNDERGROUND FORUM
http://www.christian-underground.com/ Title: Re:Gay Families. Post by: sincereheart on June 05, 2004, 08:12:14 AM Excerpts from:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5114002/site/newsweek/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5114002/site/newsweek/) ‘The Right to Choose’ Mayor Noël Mamere explains why he will perform France’s first gay marriage ceremony—and why he has received threats and a parcel of excrement in the mail Is the government’s stand on gay marriage behind the times? The Right and part of the Left are greatly out of sync with French society. The vast majority of French people are far more advanced than their representatives, more open-minded, less fearful. And young people most of all because they have an evolved view of marriage, not one formed in the 19th and 20th century. To them, marriage has its place in life, but [they don’t] compare with politicians and others who put marriage in the context of a religious sacrament. And if it is a solemn engagement, why not have that engagement between two people of the same sex? What is your stand on gay adoption? I am for it. Yes, surveys show most people are against it, but we must get over this hypocrisy. Since 1966, a single person can adopt a child, so a single gay person can adopt as long as they hide the fact that they are gay. More than 100,000 children are already growing up in gay families in France, either through adoption, artificial insemination or other. We will see the same debates as we did with the civil unions, and the same divide and arguments, and we will end up with the same result; most people supporting it. In four or five years this will all seem quite banal. Did Gavin Newsom, the San Francisco mayor who allowed gay marriages, inspire you? I watched, but we don’t have to look to the other side of the Atlantic for inspiration. I looked at Belgium, Holland, Denmark, where gay marriage already exists, and soon even the very Catholic Spain under [Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez] Zapatero. But I have a lot of respect for the mayor of San Francisco and I would like to twin Bègles with San Francisco. Bègles may be too small, just 23,000 people, but why not? Are you expecting a good party [at Saturday’s ceremony]? I hope so, but I don’t want this to turn into the Gay Pride parade. I think it will be a point of gay pride, but it is a marriage between these two people, and it is important to them as individuals. I will also be proud to contribute to this conquest of legal equality. |