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Title: The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms Post by: Warrior For Christ on May 04, 2004, 03:35:06 PM The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms. They are as follows:
1.) Christ baptizing with the holy Spirit (Mat.3:11; Acts 1:4-5; Acts 11:15-16) 2.) The holy Spirit baptizing into the Body of Christ (Col.2:11-12; Rom.6:3-4; 1 Cor.12:13) 3.) Death Baptism (Luke 12:50; Mat.20:22-23; Mark 10:38) 4.) Fire Baptism (Mat.3:11; Luke 3:16) 5.) the typical baptism of Noah’s Ark (1 Peter 3:13-21). Note that the occupants of the ark did not get wet. 6.) Baptism for the dead (1 Corinthians 15:29). Note this is the verse Mormons use to support their view on baptism for the dead. 7.) Baptism unto Moses (1 Cor. 10:2). Note again, these who were baptized "in the cloud and in the sea" went across on "dry ground" according to the Exodus account; their baptism was apart from water. This is obviously not a "water baptism" for Israel crossed the Red Sea on "dry ground" (Exodus 14:22). Pharaoh and his army, were the ones dipped into the water as it crashed down on them in divine judgment. However, it was Israel who was said to have been baptized. Hence, this was a dry baptism! 8.) Divers baptisms of the law (Heb.9:10; John 1:25) 9.) Traditional Jewish baptisms (not part of the law, but became man made law) (Mark 7:1-9) 10.) John’s baptism of Israel for the remission of sins (Mat.3:6-16; Mark 1:4-9; Luke 3:3-21, John 1:23-28; etc.) 11.) Christ’s baptism by John to fulfill all righteousness (Mat.3:14; etc.). Note, the Lord states it was necessary, not that it was for a testimony. 12.) Pentecostal baptism for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38; etc.) Title: Re:The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms Post by: Warrior For Christ on May 04, 2004, 04:41:39 PM For me and my house, we believe number 2.) The Holy Spirit baptizing into the Body of Christ (Col.2:11-12; Rom.6:3-4; 1 Cor.12:13)
This the ONE and ONLY Baptism in this age of Grace. (Ephesians 4:5) Title: Re:The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms Post by: Evangelist on May 05, 2004, 09:45:08 AM Warrior:
You really should include #1....for without Christ baptizing you with the Spirit, the Spirit will NOT baptize you into the Body.... 1 Cor 12 makes that pretty clear. Other than that....AMEN! Title: Re:The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms Post by: ollie on May 06, 2004, 03:31:53 PM The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms. They are as follows: "Note that the occupants of the ark did not get wet."1.) Christ baptizing with the holy Spirit (Mat.3:11; Acts 1:4-5; Acts 11:15-16) 2.) The holy Spirit baptizing into the Body of Christ (Col.2:11-12; Rom.6:3-4; 1 Cor.12:13) 3.) Death Baptism (Luke 12:50; Mat.20:22-23; Mark 10:38) 4.) Fire Baptism (Mat.3:11; Luke 3:16) 5.) the typical baptism of Noah’s Ark (1 Peter 3:13-21). Note that the occupants of the ark did not get wet. 6.) Baptism for the dead (1 Corinthians 15:29). Note this is the verse Mormons use to support their view on baptism for the dead. 7.) Baptism unto Moses (1 Cor. 10:2). Note again, these who were baptized "in the cloud and in the sea" went across on "dry ground" according to the Exodus account; their baptism was apart from water. This is obviously not a "water baptism" for Israel crossed the Red Sea on "dry ground" (Exodus 14:22). Pharaoh and his army, were the ones dipped into the water as it crashed down on them in divine judgment. However, it was Israel who was said to have been baptized. Hence, this was a dry baptism! 8.) Divers baptisms of the law (Heb.9:10; John 1:25) 9.) Traditional Jewish baptisms (not part of the law, but became man made law) (Mark 7:1-9) 10.) John’s baptism of Israel for the remission of sins (Mat.3:6-16; Mark 1:4-9; Luke 3:3-21, John 1:23-28; etc.) 11.) Christ’s baptism by John to fulfill all righteousness (Mat.3:14; etc.). Note, the Lord states it was necessary, not that it was for a testimony. 12.) Pentecostal baptism for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38; etc.) They did not. The water seperated the sinful on earth from the righteous on the ark and destroyed the sinful and saved the righteous through this seperation. The like figure even baptism saves us making us seperate from the sinful and sin. Ollie Title: Re:The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms Post by: michael_legna on May 06, 2004, 06:04:24 PM The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms. They are as follows: 1.) Christ baptizing with the holy Spirit (Mat.3:11; Acts 1:4-5; Acts 11:15-16) 2.) The holy Spirit baptizing into the Body of Christ (Col.2:11-12; Rom.6:3-4; 1 Cor.12:13) 3.) Death Baptism (Luke 12:50; Mat.20:22-23; Mark 10:38) 4.) Fire Baptism (Mat.3:11; Luke 3:16) 5.) the typical baptism of Noah’s Ark (1 Peter 3:13-21). Note that the occupants of the ark did not get wet. 6.) Baptism for the dead (1 Corinthians 15:29). Note this is the verse Mormons use to support their view on baptism for the dead. 7.) Baptism unto Moses (1 Cor. 10:2). Note again, these who were baptized "in the cloud and in the sea" went across on "dry ground" according to the Exodus account; their baptism was apart from water. This is obviously not a "water baptism" for Israel crossed the Red Sea on "dry ground" (Exodus 14:22). Pharaoh and his army, were the ones dipped into the water as it crashed down on them in divine judgment. However, it was Israel who was said to have been baptized. Hence, this was a dry baptism! 8.) Divers baptisms of the law (Heb.9:10; John 1:25) 9.) Traditional Jewish baptisms (not part of the law, but became man made law) (Mark 7:1-9) 10.) John’s baptism of Israel for the remission of sins (Mat.3:6-16; Mark 1:4-9; Luke 3:3-21, John 1:23-28; etc.) 11.) Christ’s baptism by John to fulfill all righteousness (Mat.3:14; etc.). Note, the Lord states it was necessary, not that it was for a testimony. 12.) Pentecostal baptism for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38; etc.) I think you missed a reference - or maybe oyu can tell me where oyu would place this reference to Baptism as it is clearly the one that most clearly tells us of the necessity of being baptized in order to properly accept the free gift of salvation. John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Personally I think #1, 2 and 12 are all the same and this verse goes along with them. Additionally other numbers could be combined as the TYPE from the Old Testament of the fulfillment under the New Covenant. Title: Re:The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms Post by: blainefabin on May 09, 2004, 12:52:01 PM The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms. They are as follows: 1.) Christ baptizing with the holy Spirit (Mat.3:11; Acts 1:4-5; Acts 11:15-16) 2.) The holy Spirit baptizing into the Body of Christ (Col.2:11-12; Rom.6:3-4; 1 Cor.12:13) 3.) Death Baptism (Luke 12:50; Mat.20:22-23; Mark 10:38) 4.) Fire Baptism (Mat.3:11; Luke 3:16) 5.) the typical baptism of Noah’s Ark (1 Peter 3:13-21). Note that the occupants of the ark did not get wet. 6.) Baptism for the dead (1 Corinthians 15:29). Note this is the verse Mormons use to support their view on baptism for the dead. 7.) Baptism unto Moses (1 Cor. 10:2). Note again, these who were baptized "in the cloud and in the sea" went across on "dry ground" according to the Exodus account; their baptism was apart from water. This is obviously not a "water baptism" for Israel crossed the Red Sea on "dry ground" (Exodus 14:22). Pharaoh and his army, were the ones dipped into the water as it crashed down on them in divine judgment. However, it was Israel who was said to have been baptized. Hence, this was a dry baptism! 8.) Divers baptisms of the law (Heb.9:10; John 1:25) 9.) Traditional Jewish baptisms (not part of the law, but became man made law) (Mark 7:1-9) 10.) John’s baptism of Israel for the remission of sins (Mat.3:6-16; Mark 1:4-9; Luke 3:3-21, John 1:23-28; etc.) 11.) Christ’s baptism by John to fulfill all righteousness (Mat.3:14; etc.). Note, the Lord states it was necessary, not that it was for a testimony. 12.) Pentecostal baptism for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38; etc.) with the exception of baptism for the dead which not much is really known about, i think all the baptisms are really getting to the same thing. whether the types that are used to show what baptism meant to the early christians or the different ways of expressing the regeneration that takes place in baptism it all comes down to the fact that it is a sacrament. something real is happening, grace is made available through it, we receive the holy spirit, sins are washed away.. it is what it means to be born again... after all we cannot go back in out mother womb.... can we? mike Title: The Bible very clearly talks of twelve various baptisms Post by: His Messenger on May 19, 2004, 04:40:53 PM Of all the different kinds of baptisms spoken about in the Bible, only one is of any importance to God, or has any application, in this present dispensation of His grace. That baptism is the one God Himself performs when the Spirit of God baptizes the believer "into Jesus Christ" at the moment of salvation, so identifying the believer with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection.
Water baptisms in particular are "rudiments of the world" that functioned in accordance with the elementary purification, separation, and identification teachings of the Law Covenant, and as such were a natural part of God's program and dealings with Israel. As described in I Corinthians 1, at the beginning of this dispensation of grace in connection with testifying to Israel outside of their land, the Apostle Paul used water baptisms on certain occasions as a sign to unbelieving Israel. With the exception of this limited use, water baptisms have no role or function in this present dispensation of grace. His Messenger |