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Title: Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: Brother Love on April 29, 2004, 06:06:41 AM
Statement of Faith for Free Christians Unite Services


2.  You must believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God, is God, was born of a virgin, was crucified as punishment for the sins of mankind severally, was resurrected on the third day, ascended into heaven, and is coming back soon to rule and reign for evermore.

AMEN!!! I Believe :)

P.S. I also believe in the Pre-Trib Rapture :)
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3.  You must believe that the only way to eternal salvation is through personal belief that the blood of Jesus is all-sufficient for the penalty of sin and an acceptance of him into your life as Lord and Saviour.

AMEN!!! I Believe :)
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4.  You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our
own.

AMEN!!! I Believe :)
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5.  You must believe in the Trinity: That God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit are three Persons present in one God.

AMEN!!!! I Believe :)

Brother Love :)

"TO MAKE ALL MEN SEE"
    (Ephesians 3:9)

        <:)))><



Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: aw on April 29, 2004, 10:44:57 AM
I believe also and with the HEART.

Thanx for the post,

aw


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: BUTCHA on April 29, 2004, 10:17:39 PM
Statement of Faith for Free Christians Unite Services


*****WHAT HAPPENED TO #1 ****** ;D BUTCHA

2.  You must believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God, is God, was born of a virgin, was crucified as punishment for the sins of mankind severally, was resurrected on the third day, ascended into heaven, and is coming back soon to rule and reign for evermore.

AMEN!!! I Believe :)
********AMEN BROTHER********* ;D BUTCHA
P.S. I also believe in the Pre-Trib Rapture :)
--******AMEN BROTHER******* ;D BUTCHA
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3.  You must believe that the only way to eternal salvation is through personal belief that the blood of Jesus is all-
sufficient for the penalty of sin and an acceptance of him into your life as Lord and Saviour.

AMEN!!! I Believe :) NOW THATS THE KEY. THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR ,YOU TO SAY"an acceptance of him into your life"
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AMEN BROTHER ;D BUTCHA---------------------------------------

4.  You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our
own.

AMEN!!! I Believe :) AMEN BROTHER , BUT I DO BELIEVE BY PRACTICING ONES RELIGION IT STRENGTHENS HIS FAITH AND RIFILLS HIS SPIRIT, I WOULDNT SELL IT SHORT LIKE YOU DO. ;D BUTCH
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5.  You must believe in the Trinity: That God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit are three Persons present in one God.

AMEN!!!! I Believe :)****AMEN BROTHER***** BUTCHA ;D

Brother Love :)

"TO MAKE ALL MEN SEE"

  I SEE ISEE NICE POST BROTHER LOVE THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT THATS SOME GOOD WORK******BUTCHA ;D
    (Ephesians 3:9)

        <:)))><




Title: Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: Brother Love on May 26, 2004, 06:59:19 AM
Statement of Faith for Free Christians Unite Services


*****WHAT HAPPENED TO #1 ****** ;D BUTCHA

2.  You must believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God, is God, was born of a virgin, was crucified as punishment for the sins of mankind severally, was resurrected on the third day, ascended into heaven, and is coming back soon to rule and reign for evermore.

AMEN!!! I Believe :)
********AMEN BROTHER********* ;D BUTCHA
P.S. I also believe in the Pre-Trib Rapture :)
--******AMEN BROTHER******* ;D BUTCHA
--------------------------------------

3.  You must believe that the only way to eternal salvation is through personal belief that the blood of Jesus is all-
sufficient for the penalty of sin and an acceptance of him into your life as Lord and Saviour.

AMEN!!! I Believe :) NOW THATS THE KEY. THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR ,YOU TO SAY"an acceptance of him into your life"
-
AMEN BROTHER ;D BUTCHA---------------------------------------

4.  You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our
own.

AMEN!!! I Believe :) AMEN BROTHER , BUT I DO BELIEVE BY PRACTICING ONES RELIGION IT STRENGTHENS HIS FAITH AND RIFILLS HIS SPIRIT, I WOULDNT SELL IT SHORT LIKE YOU DO. ;D BUTCH
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5.  You must believe in the Trinity: That God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit are three Persons present in one God.

AMEN!!!! I Believe :)****AMEN BROTHER***** BUTCHA ;D

Brother Love :)

"TO MAKE ALL MEN SEE"

  I SEE ISEE NICE POST BROTHER LOVE THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT THATS SOME GOOD WORK******BUTCHA ;D
    (Ephesians 3:9)

        <:)))><



 ;)


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: DovesWings on May 26, 2004, 02:55:26 PM
Statement of Faith for Free Christians Unite Services


2.  You must believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God, is God, was born of a virgin, was crucified as punishment for the sins of mankind severally, was resurrected on the third day, ascended into heaven, and is coming back soon to rule and reign for evermore.

AMEN!!! I Believe :)

P.S. I also believe in the Pre-Trib Rapture :)
----------------------------------------

3.  You must believe that the only way to eternal salvation is through personal belief that the blood of Jesus is all-sufficient for the penalty of sin and an acceptance of him into your life as Lord and Saviour.

AMEN!!! I Believe :)
----------------------------------------

4.  You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our
own.

AMEN!!! I Believe :)
----------------------------------------

5.  You must believe in the Trinity: That God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit are three Persons present in one God.

AMEN!!!! I Believe :)

Brother Love :)

"TO MAKE ALL MEN SEE"
    (Ephesians 3:9)

        <:)))><



I also believe :)


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: sojourner on May 26, 2004, 07:27:18 PM
BrotherLove,

Well, it seems that you have at least three or four members in your new religious union.

As a Christian who believes what was given to us via the Apostles and recorded in the Bible, I can only attest the first and last. The rest I have no recognition as being taught from the Bible and having 2000 years of experiencial living.

I wonder if you could keep the current members if you added a few things.


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: nChrist on May 26, 2004, 09:47:14 PM
BrotherLove,

Well, it seems that you have at least three or four members in your new religious union.

As a Christian who believes what was given to us via the Apostles and recorded in the Bible, I can only attest the first and last. The rest I have no recognition as being taught from the Bible and having 2000 years of experiencial living.

I wonder if you could keep the current members if you added a few things.

Oklahoma Howdy to Sojourner,

I'm not sure what you are trying to say or imply. The Statement of Faith being quoted is the stance of the Owner and Administrator of Christians Unite and the vast majority of Christians that I know. I can easily attest to the entire list. There is nothing foreign or unusual about this statement of faith. This is the pure Gospel of God's Grace. This does not represent a new religious union, rather an ancient religious union that goes back to THE CROSS.

If you are suggesting this Statement of Faith is trying to start a new religious movement or belief, you would be wrong. This is the truth and reality of our Lord and Saviour, the Holy Trinity, the CROSS and what it means, and the GOOD NEWS about what Jesus Christ did for us. It was completely true 2,000 years ago, and it is completely true today. This is the basic foundation of truth that binds us together as brothers and sisters in Christ. This does not represent a new or single denomination, rather many denominations of people who love Jesus Christ as the core and Lord over their lives.

When I say "members", I'm talking about members of THE BODY OF CHRIST, saved and born again children of God.

Tom  


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: Tibby on May 26, 2004, 09:57:56 PM
I think what he is trying to say is, will those who don’t believe in the Admin’s version of Christianity be banned, to put it bluntly.


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: sojourner on May 26, 2004, 10:36:09 PM
Blackeyedpeas,

That truly is a statement of faith. However, there is little that represents the Gospel once given by the Apostles, and surely very little that the martyers died for during the last 2000 years as members of that Body of Christ.

There is nothing wrong with a statement of faith, however, if you are going to show it as authentic from the Apostles, it must be much more than your or others opinion of what it was.  Using the same terminology with vastly different Truth does not make it authentic or Apostolic.

For me I stick to the Nicene Creed as my statement of faith.


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: JudgeNot on May 26, 2004, 10:36:45 PM
Oh Wise Tibby; what part of Christianity do you disagree with?


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: nChrist on May 26, 2004, 10:42:24 PM
I think what he is trying to say is, will those who don’t believe in the Admin’s version of Christianity be banned, to put it bluntly.

Oklahoma Howdy to Tibby,

 :D  I'm sure that you already have the answer to that question. ADMIN has banned some very strange people, but only after warning them and asking them to quit preaching (i.e. 3 self-proclaimed Messiahs, 1 proclaiming to be our King and here to whip us into shape, etc., etc., etc. - all with looney bin preaching).  We have banned several who refused to stop trying to convert us to Islam and other groups that deny one or more of the Holy Trinity. I'm hoping that most of the people on the forum never knew they were here.

People who deny Jesus Christ was and is God are welcome here, but not to preach and rescue us from our Lord and Saviour. I think this is a fairly accurate way to describe how the forum rules about religious beliefs are applied. An easy proof of this is numerous threads obviously involving atheists, humanists, and other folks who completely deny the existence of God altogether. Several have been banned because they were addicted to hunting Christians, poking fun at the Holy Bible, and mocking or blaspheming Almighty God. Other than those radical examples, many atheists have been with us for lengthy periods of time.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: Heidi on May 26, 2004, 10:56:51 PM
Sojourner, you need to focus on Jesus's words and then you will understand the apostle's words. Only Jesus can give us eternal life, not the apostles.


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: sojourner on May 26, 2004, 11:18:31 PM
Heidi,

If it weren't for the Apostles and the Prophets of the OT you wouldn't have Jesus' words either.

I recall asking you several questions which have yet to be answered. You keep using the phrase 'knowing Jesus' words' which is meaningless. I can quote and I can read. It is not the words but what they mean. You have not shown that what you state has been taught and believed historically, rather than just your opinion.  


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: Heidi on May 26, 2004, 11:35:03 PM
God decides what words we hear and what words we don't need to hear, not the apostles. You still seem to want to give them the credit instead of God. Jesus said; "I can do nothing without my Father."  Undertsanding Jesus's words comes from the Holy Spirit, not a detached analysis of history. The statement of faith that the administration made at the beginning of this thread says it all. The born again Christians have no problem understanding its meaning. The ones who see Jesus's words as the "teachings that are but rules taught by men", have a hard time understanding his meaning. My suggestion to you would be to ask Christ into your HEART, literally, and His words will then make sense to you.


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: Reba on May 27, 2004, 12:44:11 AM
Dummy me i thought  all of scripture was Jesus..


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: sojourner on May 27, 2004, 06:32:04 PM
Heidi,

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You still seem to want to give them the credit instead of God. Jesus said; "I can do nothing without my Father."  Undertsanding Jesus's words comes from the Holy Spirit, not a detached analysis of history.

Based on this thread alone, Heidi, there are several who have a different idea of what the words of Jesus mean.  Obviously, you have the correct understanding, so that makes the others who also claim the same basis as either liars, or the Holy Spirit actually is giving many individual revelations today.

To determine if the Holy Spirit is active one must analyse history. The Holy Spirit, as per Scripture, those words of Jesus in fact, said that He would send the Comforter. He said this to the Apostles directly. He also gave them very explicit instructions to teach and instruct this Truth that they received from God.  He also stated that He would abide with them until the end. He established His Church, His Body, here on earth by the Apostles, and it is ONLY within this Body, The CHURCH that the Holy Spirit operates (indwelling).   Individuals acquire the Holy Spirit by Baptism into His Church and being annointed with Oil - chrismation.
The test to see if Christ, via the Holy Spirit has remained with His Church is to see where the original deposit of faith still remains intact as it was once given for all, to all.
If you cannot find anywhere in the world today that teaches as the apostles received, then the Holy Spirit failed and what you believe is a waste of time.

I can assuredly attest that many of the personal opinions that are very prevelent on this board are not the work of the Holy Spirit.  Christ Body has never been divided, it has never been unholy, it is and always has been ONE.  The TRUTH is CHRIST, not the Bible which is simply a partial recorded history of His interaction with man.

Further, the Bible is quite clear that Revelation is never given to individuals, as protestants have proven the point.  Not only that but that what has been given is not for personal interpretation, see II Pet 1:20.  Those are some of those clear words of Jesus, Heidi.  Based on your own words, these must be some that God does not want you to hear.

I would gladly entertain any scripture references that you might have which shows that there are many faiths, many ways to Christ, in opposition of His stated words.

   



Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: nChrist on May 27, 2004, 07:32:57 PM
Sojourner,

Take it to debate please, especially if you are going to make it a denomination versus denomination thing.

Moderator


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: Sparrow on May 27, 2004, 07:38:49 PM
I  believe!  :)


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: sojourner on May 27, 2004, 09:10:46 PM
Blackeyedpeas,

Would be glad to, however, I don't think Heidi wants to as she has failed to reply several times.



Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: Heidi on May 27, 2004, 10:57:47 PM
Sojourner, do you understand what Jesus means by, "You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them, you possess eternal life."?


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: Brother Love on June 11, 2004, 05:09:50 AM
I think what he is trying to say is, will those who don’t believe in the Admin’s version of Christianity be banned, to put it bluntly.

Tibby do you believe this:

You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our own.

<:)))><


Title: Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: His Messenger on June 12, 2004, 05:26:13 PM
I think what he is trying to say is, will those who don’t believe in the Admin’s version of Christianity be banned, to put it bluntly.

Tibby do you believe this:

You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our own.

<:)))><


I agree 100%

<:)))><


Title: TIBBY
Post by: Brother Love on June 14, 2004, 05:49:12 AM
I think what he is trying to say is, will those who don’t believe in the Admin’s version of Christianity be banned, to put it bluntly.

Tibby do you believe this:

You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our own.

<:)))><


Tibby do you believe this:

You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our own.
  Brother Love :)

    <:)))><


Title: Re:Statement of Faith Christians Unite
Post by: Sower on June 14, 2004, 09:49:35 AM
Dummy me i thought  all of scripture was Jesus..

"All of Scripture are the WORDS of the WORD of God [Jesus Christ] through the Holy Spirit" (2 Tim. 3:16). Scripture is sufficient for all our needs and a doctrinal statement solidly grounded in Scripture is unobjectionable.