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No one knows the time or the date, but just out of pure speculation, do you think He'll return in our lifetime?

lol, you forgot an one, Yes, No, and Don't care!  ;D

Seriously though, Death isn't the end, is it. The way I see it, we will be around for it either way! I mean, being in Earth, we think of Earth as the proverbial “center of the Universe” But really, Heaven is the hub of activity in the Universe! We will we be their when Christ come back, my friend, you don’t need ot worry about it! lol ;)

Yes! That's very true; I hadn't thought about it that way before. I wonder if we all live in one gigantic palace or if we have separate dwellings in heaven. After we all meet the Lord, are there going to be huge line-ups to meet Luther and Spurgeon and Brooks? I doubt it; we'll all be thrilled just to meet the Lord. :)

I know. And the questions we will have… Heaven will not get boring fast. I still hope we do play sports. I know, I know, but God is the creator of all, and with so many humans having a desire to play sports, I wouldn’t be surpirsed if he has sports.

Yes, definitely! I'm sure there will be sports! I think God will want us to have all the enjoyments we have here, only better. No fatigue! No getting the bonks from dehydration! Now *that* will make for some spectacular scores. I want to climb mountains. I bet the views there will be spectacular, and I don't suppose I'd need ropes, because there's no pain and presumably no falling, since we'd be in transfigured bodies. Well, I'm not sure how the rope part is going to work out. But God said He's making a new heaven and a new earth. So really, I think it's going to be exactly as it is now, except that it will be completely incorruptable. We'll have jobs, but we'll never have a horrible boss. Never cash flow problems. Just the sheer joy of serving our God, as a family.

Um, Whitehorse, depends on what you mean by "our lifetime".

If you're 95, maybe He better be coming here pretty quick!

I don't see how He can fail, though, soon.  B/c of "world" events:  everything is "world", or "global" --world travel, world communications, world finances, world politics, world conservation, even world "religion" and "world" distruction.  We mustn't forget, atomic weapons were used already 60 years ago now.  And our capabilities with it and such similar technologies has only increase.

And, "money" and the idea of "assets" are gradually moving to the intangible, from the tangible.  From tangible currency, gold and coin, to intangible plastic, accounts, memory.  It was announced by the U.S. Treasury, your basic, garden variety of U.S. Savings Bonds, will soon be availble only with an Internet account--no paper bonds will be issued after 1994.

Yet, people's "i.d." will be tied to their accounts.

This will be the first time in the history of mankind, that people will be joined with their money.  always in times past, money was not "joined" to the person.  It was something tangible, separate from one's being.

Now, gradually, we are being "identified" with what is in our wallet.  "Where a man's treasure is, there will his heart be also".  Once that union is complete, all you have to do is crack the whip, threaten his accounts, and you can get him to do anything you want him to do.  People will be "owned" by the system.

And, these technologies are being implemented at I think a very fast rate.  And I think people are generally welcoming them.

Plus the wholesale immorality.  A new sitcom on the Bravo cable channel(?) this summer will be featuring a regular gay couple?  Etc., etc., etc.


What do you think?

The spirit of anti Christ is prevalent everywhere one turns in the world. Hasn't it always been?
However God is longsuffering toward man and His sin. He would have all to be saved. He will not come as long as there is one yet to come to Christ. And He knows.

Symphony, yes, It is getting kind of scary with the tech and smartcards...I'm not liking that at all!

Ollie, Amen. God will bring the full number into His fold. I love that in Him.

I can't answer the quiz above, because that would suggest in my mind that I have inside info on His return...which I don't.

I would love to see His return with my own eyes, but if I am to be called back after my natural death, then Praise God for that privilage too.  

Either way, I'm going home!!!! Praise God!!!

No one has inside info. It's just fun to speculate. I agree with you about going home. It's going to be just amazing. Every day I'm alive, my thoughts are more about eternal things and less about the temporal. Amen!!!!

Fun Indeed!

A thing of beauty.

One thing:

If there is a time frame laid out in scripture, wouldn't you want to see it?

Have you?

Is it one of those (trust me) or (ignore that part) tales conjured, or plain as the nose on my face?

(I believe this is within the threads original topic)

Peace.

     i think that our Lord and Saviour is coming in our lifetime. im 18 and i believe that if i live 2 a ripe old age i will see his return. as u said and as it is written that no one knows the time, but as far as im concerned all of the things that r supposed 2 happen have or r about 2. still it could be 100 years. as Tibby said, " well be around 4 it either way." either way well see our Lord Jesus, and what a wonderful day that will be!!!!


LOTS OF LOVE FROM YOUR BROTHER IN CHRIST,
Bryan aka: Bozz

That's exactly how I feel about it, too. It's nothing like anything we've ever seen before, and it's going to be spectacular. Sometimes it seems so far into the future that I hadn't really done any serious meditation on it until a couple of years ago. That will be most spectacular.

*****
John here:
The Worship center Rev. states will need no sun. The GodHead will be brighter than this. 'The light of it'. (New Jerusalem)

Then we see in Isa. 66 that we will build houses & plant vineyards. (most likely we will hit the right nail  :)?) But it is clear that we will live in country homes if we desire. (not like Lot, but like Abramham?) We from earth might mostly be active doing the Masters biddings of travel perhaps, to other world's' telling of our wittness?? And the talent of music in songs of praise? (not mine! :'()

It might not be much exercise if one only had to just have the faith part of the work do it? Kind of like I used to wonder about years ago of floating around on a cloud, and strumming a harp ???.

Also from one 7th day Sabbath to another we will Worship the Lord. And we are told that there will be a [new heaven & a new earth], (weekly cycle) so it sounds like we will be doing things with our talents? See Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15. Only *Na. 1:9 states that.. "He will make an UTTER END, AFFLICTION WILL NOT ARISE THE *SECOND TIME." Try Obadia 16 for the past rebellion.

Kind of sounds like these ones all will be 'tested' safe to save, huh? See Gen. 2:16-17 & Ex. 16:4 with Rev. 13:14-17 (again check the Eccl. chapter's & verses.)

And surely we will want to embrace our Master. :) Our family, and meet our guardian angel. wow! what a story he could tell, huh?

--John

Yes

...I mean NO!

err...maybe?

Hi, John here:
The word in Matt. 24:14 tells all when Christ will come! Only the wittness part is essential. The opportunity of eternal life.

I mentioned this verse a while back & wondered if any would catch my word of it happening the SECOND time? If any did, they must have thought that I just could not add, huh? :)

Or perhaps it was not seen, just read over like we often do?
Anyway, the remark still stands. That when the Gospel goes into all of the world for a witness, then the Lord shall come!
After its [second] fulfillment!

---John

Don't know? But I do know I will see Him at the resurrection at the last day. For now, He has come as the Holy Spirit indwelling His Church.

Joh 14:3  And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. [this refers to His coming as the comforter; the place He prepares is a place in His Body, one with the Father.]
Joh 14:16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh 14:18  I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. [Bold emphasis Mine]

Jesus came as the "life giving" Spirit at his resurrection to be one with us; He is our Comforter.
1Co 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
2Co 3:17  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
1Co 6:17  But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

Joh 14:20  At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

What a comfort He is!

asaph

I know what you mean WH sometimes I feel as if I am already living on another plane because my focus has moved upward to such a degree that I am greedy to know everything about God and the life to come and care less and less about the things that used to get so much of my attention in this world.

I believe in my heart Jesus Christ, will return in my life time. Here are a few reasons, (12 of them) :) I believe his return will be soon. ;D
1.) The tremendous rise of false teachers and false “cults” or “religions.”  There never has been such a proliferation of kinds of wrong religions, as well as an astronomically rapid increase in the millions of people who blindly follow false teaching!  I don’t even have to name them.  You know them by name!  Matthew 24: 4-5 mentions this.

2.) The rise of worldwide warfare on a scale we have not seen for some time.  Since the war against terrorism started, other “hot spots” are beginning to heat up again, worldwide.  Matthew 24:6-7

3.) A great increase in “natural calamities.”  Matthew 24:7 speaks of famines, pestilences and earthquakes.  Famine is worsening in many areas.  Biological warfare accentuates disease, so called “pestilence.”  Scientists declare earthquakes continually increase.

4.) Worldwide persecution of believers.  Matthew 24:9-10  Religious and civil freedom is a “joke“ in many countries.  Persecution and martyrdom of Christians remains largely undocumented by the secular media today!

5.) The rise of evil.  Matthew 24:12

6.) The “cooling off” of believers who were once on fire!  (Matthew 24:12)

7.) The worldwide preaching of the gospel as never before.  Matthew 24:14

8.) A great danger of the annihilation of the entire human race, unless God intervenes!  Matthew 24:22

9.) God is pouring out His Spirit on all flesh!  Especially since 1995, there has been a powerful worldwide move of the Spirit, to prepare and mature believers.

10.) God said, “Your sons and daughters shall prophesy.”  Joel 2  there is a powerful new move among the youth in America to find a new cause to give their lives to.  They are becoming radically reckless and militant for Jesus Christ!!!  Never in my lifetime have I seen such zeal to serve Christ among the youth.

11.) Revelation knowledge is flooding the earth as the Bible predicted!  I have never seen such an outpouring of divine knowledge and wisdom and revelation as is happening right now.  Truly God wants us to grow up unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ!

12.) God is whispering softly – in the depths of my spirit, (and millions of others also) that Jesus is coming soon!!!  We are not of the night, but of the “DAY,” Thessalonians declares.  Let us occupy, be busy, and let our light shine.  Give out the Word, lift Jesus higher.  The trumpet will sound soon; The Church will leave and go home to Jesus John 14:1-4.

Also see this thread for more detail.
http://forums.christiansunite.com/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=4248