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Title: "Earth Day"
Post by: JudgeNot on April 20, 2004, 01:33:09 PM
I am interested in knowing what others here at ChristiansUnite think about “Earth Day”.  

My pastor says it is tantamount to idolatry (worshiping the earth).  Would you agree or disagree with his assessment?  

As my pastor points out; taking care of our environment is important because God put it in our hands to care for – unfortunately many with radical, humanistic agendas use Earth Day to press their godless ideology on the masses.  

I work for a large company (about 10,000 employees) and we recently received a company-wide memo that is plainly “requiring us to celebrate Earth Day and reporting to our supervisors exactly how we are individually supporting it”.  In other words, part of our employee assessments will ‘grade us’ on the level of our Earth Day support.  It really rubs me the wrong way.  

Thoughts?


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: JudgeNot on April 20, 2004, 02:35:41 PM
Another tidbit concerning "Earth Day":
http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200404\NAT20040420a.html (http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200404\NAT20040420a.html)


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: ollie on April 20, 2004, 02:54:33 PM
Do it unto the Lord and with prayer and thanksgiving.

Companies should not be dictating our behavior or what we celebrate and observe or do not.

If the company makes widgets and you are an excellent widget maker then that should be their only concern about you.
However in this day and age all the world has its nose in politically correctness, so if the dictates of the company do not violate God and His Christ, do it with joy as unto Him.

Ollie


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: Reba on April 20, 2004, 05:35:10 PM
Judge  

Dr. Reba prescribes  2 weeks in Redding!  or Redbluff!


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: JudgeNot on April 20, 2004, 11:22:26 PM
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Dr. Reba prescribes  2 weeks in Redding!  or Redbluff!

I spend two weeks in Alaska (home) every other year - is that close enought to Lassen???   ;D


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: ollie on April 23, 2004, 03:44:44 PM
I am interested in knowing what others here at ChristiansUnite think about “Earth Day”.  

My pastor says it is tantamount to idolatry (worshiping the earth).  Would you agree or disagree with his assessment?  

As my pastor points out; taking care of our environment is important because God put it in our hands to care for – unfortunately many with radical, humanistic agendas use Earth Day to press their godless ideology on the masses.  

I work for a large company (about 10,000 employees) and we recently received a company-wide memo that is plainly “requiring us to celebrate Earth Day and reporting to our supervisors exactly how we are individually supporting it”.  In other words, part of our employee assessments will ‘grade us’ on the level of our Earth Day support.  It really rubs me the wrong way.  

Thoughts?
"I work for a large company (about 10,000 employees) and we recently received a company-wide memo that is plainly “
requiring us to celebrate Earth Day and reporting to our supervisors exactly how we are individually supporting it”.  In other words, part of our employee assessments will ‘grade us’ on the level of our Earth Day support.  It really rubs me the wrong way. "


Everything ok? The day has come and gone.

Ollie


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: peachykeen on April 23, 2004, 03:51:58 PM
I didn't think it was so much worshiping as simply giving thanks for it or taking care of it (in the 5th grade I made my friend come clean up everybody's yard on Earth Day, like cigarette butts and newspapers, bits of plastic, things like that.  She nearly killed me afterwards though, and overthrew me as president of our "club"....ahhh pre-teen politics...)

I don't really get the concept of it...explain for peaches?

PS- Arbor Day next friday


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: Broken on April 23, 2004, 06:40:22 PM
We don't have earth day in the UK, but I know many Christians over here are environmentally aware. Not worshipping the earth but more positively regarding it as God's creation - not man's possession.

Bleh if I could remember more of the ecotheology things I did at university I could write more....but my brain is mush.


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: His_child on April 24, 2004, 02:23:30 AM
I'm in favor of doing our part to take care of the earth. Things like conserving, recycling, etc. are great ideas. However, having something like "earth day" is a little too close to encouraging idolatry, imo.
We are to worship the Creator and not His creation.


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: Broken on April 24, 2004, 05:37:24 PM
It depends on how you celebrate it, justme.

As with many things :) Its only idolatry if you choose to make it so - if you're not worshipping the earth on earth day, but instead giving thanks to the creator of that earth and promising to keep the duty mankind was given in respect to the earth, then that is not idolatry. If you see what I mean.


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: Tibby on April 24, 2004, 06:15:40 PM
Lets shut down Earth day because pagans celebrate it! Tell your Pastor he is a Genius, judgenot. ::) While we are at it, lets ban Saturdays all together because that is when pagans meet to worship their Gods sometimes. Lets kill all the cats, too, because the Egyptians worshipped it (I know willow will like that one). Tell your Pastor he can worship the Earth Gods on Earth day is he wants, I will be worshipping God.

Ok, all joking aside, the Pagans are welcome to worship their Gods on Earth Day or Easter or Groundhogs day! It isn’t going to make a lick of difference in my worship life.

Tell your pastor Tibby said it is his choice who he worships on any Earth day.  ;)


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: JudgeNot on April 25, 2004, 05:52:20 PM
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Tell your Pastor he is a Genius
Tibby, Tibby, Tibby.
As much as I love you, brother – sometimes you really let your maturity (or lack there of) shine through.  As a matter of fact, my pastor has planted a number of churches over the last 25 years.  He is directly responsible for leading hundreds (probably thousands) to Christ.  He has a master’s degree in theology, and Christ’s love shines through him and directly affects everyone he comes in contact with.  In fact he is a genius when it comes to Christ’s word and leading churches.  
If you want to take pot-shots at me, be my guest – I occasionally deserve to have my nosed rubbed in some of my less than intelligent comments – but don’t take shots at someone you know nothing about.  It makes you sound less intelligent than I believe you are.

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Tell your pastor Tibby said it is his choice who he worships on any Earth day.
I'll pass along your message.


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: ebia on April 26, 2004, 04:20:49 AM
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Tell your Pastor he is a Genius
Tibby, Tibby, Tibby.
As much as I love you, brother – sometimes you really let your maturity (or lack there of) shine through.  As a matter of fact, my pastor has planted a number of churches over the last 25 years.  He is directly responsible for leading hundreds (probably thousands) to Christ.  He has a master’s degree in theology, and Christ’s love shines through him and directly affects everyone he comes in contact with.  In fact he is a genius when it comes to Christ’s word and leading churches.  
If you want to take pot-shots at me, be my guest – I occasionally deserve to have my nosed rubbed in some of my less than intelligent comments – but don’t take shots at someone you know nothing about.  It makes you sound less intelligent than I believe you are.
You did ask for comments on your pastor's opinion:
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My pastor says it is tantamount to idolatry (worshiping the earth).  Would you agree or disagree with his assessment?


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: sincereheart on April 30, 2004, 07:32:09 AM
You did ask for comments on your pastor's opinion:


He didn't ask for comments on his pastor.

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"Would you agree or disagree with his assessment?"
was the question.....


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: Reba on April 30, 2004, 08:47:33 PM
Nice to have ya back SH.

Had some troubling 'high temptures' huh? or just  a 'cold spell'?




Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: ebia on April 30, 2004, 11:22:16 PM
You did ask for comments on your pastor's opinion:


He didn't ask for comments on his pastor.

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"Would you agree or disagree with his assessment?"
was the question.....
Which is exactly what Tibby did.  He ridiculed the pastor's opinion.


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: sincereheart on May 04, 2004, 07:01:53 AM
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Nice to have ya back SH.

Had some troubling 'high temptures' huh? or just  a 'cold spell'?

Thank you!  ;D
Tornadoes and thunderstorms!  :-X
Where are you?  ???






You might want to re-read Tibby's post.... ::)

Out of respect to JudgeNot I won't highlight it, but it's there...



Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: Symphony on May 04, 2004, 07:59:27 AM
Old age was "institutionalized" in 1935, with Social Security.  

Sickness or health is likewise in many western countries, as socialized medicine.  Hillary Clinton a champion of that here in US.

Animal rights with even pet cemetarys another example.

Similarly, as JN's company illustrates, care for our evironment--which there is certainly biblical examples of--
now becoming a "dictation".

This theme is varied, but reflects the same definition of "control".  All you do to control people, is first get them where they're weak, that is, offer to fill that void, and show them how letting you help them fill that void, will be better for "everyone"--Social security b/c we all grow old, health care b/c we all get sick, "Earth Day" b/c humans tend to pollute...  

  And with animal rights you can see where they're going with that one--esp. if Israel reinstates animal sacrifice.   :-X




Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: ollie on May 11, 2004, 08:53:42 AM
Old age was "institutionalized" in 1935, with Social Security.  

Sickness or health is likewise in many western countries, as socialized medicine.  Hillary Clinton a champion of that here in US.

Animal rights with even pet cemetarys another example.

Similarly, as JN's company illustrates, care for our evironment--which there is certainly biblical examples of--
now becoming a "dictation".

This theme is varied, but reflects the same definition of "control".  All you do to control people, is first get them where they're weak, that is, offer to fill that void, and show them how letting you help them fill that void, will be better for "everyone"--Social security b/c we all grow old, health care b/c we all get sick, "Earth Day" b/c humans tend to pollute...  

  And with animal rights you can see where they're going with that one--esp. if Israel reinstates animal sacrifice.   :-X



"This theme is varied, but reflects the same definition of "control".  All you do to control people, is first get them where they're weak, that is, offer to fill that void, and show them how letting you help them fill that void, will be better for "everyone"--Social security b/c we all grow old, health care b/c we all get sick, "Earth Day" b/c humans tend to pollute...  

  And with animal rights you can see where they're going with that one--esp. if Israel reinstates animal sacrifice.   :-X"


Redemption back to God was "institutionalized" by Jesus as His once for all ransom and propitiation for sin given to whosoever shall come to Him in faith. Animal sacrifices will be blasphemy,(animal rights aside), to God and the giving of His Christ.

Ollie

 


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: Tibby on May 11, 2004, 12:26:22 PM
Judgenot, You claimed to be “interested in knowing what others here at ChristiansUnite think,” you asked if we “agree or disagree with his assessment,” and you closed with a one word request for our thoughts. ??? :-\

You should have told me ahead of time you only want the thoughts that agree with your pastor. ;D :-*


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: JudgeNot on May 12, 2004, 10:35:23 PM
Mr. Tibbs – sorry for the confusion.
I honestly don’t love you any less – and yes, you are absolutely correct; I should have made it clear that I was looking for opinions on the opinion – not opinions on the character of the one with the opinion.  
Now – how unclear is that?  What did I just say?
I’m confused – time to go away again for a while…
 ;)


Title: Re:"Earth Day"
Post by: Tibby on May 12, 2004, 10:50:40 PM
Well, you know how I feel about satire... ;D If Satire was a women, I would marrier her... or atleast install a camera in her shower head... ;D ;D :o