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what denomination are most of the people on this web site?

there must be one or two baptists or methodists here --

Hi spirit2 - welcome to C-unite.
I was raised Baptist and currently am a member of an independent charasmatic church with ties to the SBC.  But, I simply consider myself a member of Christ's body.  :)

The 'Debate' section is an interesting place to start this thread...  You must be expecting fireworks...  ;D

AMEN!
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Actually, not as many Baptists and Methies as you would think. Most indepent nut cas--- um... christians ;D lol j/k

I'm CEC, website on my profile.

What about you, spirit? What are you?

Who started this "denomination" thing?
The Bible mentions no such entity. Only those in Christ, His body, the ecclessia, an assembly of the called by God, called by His word.

What tricks man in his own vanities play. Denominations indeed! Come out of it and be Christ's and His only!

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Greetings brother Ollie,
I agree with you – that’s why I answered as I did, but I think it’s a harmless question.  We all have learned to fellowship with particular groups of people who support our individual interpretations of scripture.  Things such as pre or post tribulation, women and men’s respective places within leadership, teaching and organizational structure, communion, tongues, healing, prophesying – the list goes on and on.  I can’t believe that denominational differences take away from the “One Body of Christ” as long as we all realize and agree that there is one Body.  I can’t believe that a pre-trib person is any more or less saved than a person who believes in a post-tribulation rapture – as long as everyone agrees that Jesus is everything.
Personally I enjoy learning about denominational differences.  I feel like it makes me a better Christian to learn how my brothers and sisters of other denominations in the same faith work to glorify Him.  Some Sundays, depending on when my normal service lets out, I go to a later service at a different church – I find interdenominational fellowship exhilarating, eye-opening, and just plain fun.  :)

Yours in The Body of Christ,
JudgeNot

A catholic priest. Maybe you know him, he went the name of Father Martin Luther. ;D

Dear "Seinfeld" Tibby;
You're one funny guy.  A legend in your own mind...  ;D  ;D

And the Priests in 1550 Calais had NO personal doctrinal differences than, say, the Priests in 1550 Hispaniola, who had NO personal doctrinal differences than Priests in 1550 Rome.  ::)

And everyone of them followed to the letter The Ordinal
from the 1549 Book of Common Prayer.  ::)

But!  They all believed that Jesus is THE WAY!  :)  So did Luther, and Calvin, and... never mind - you know where I'm coming from...  I've been at c-unite long enough that you know what I will post before I do.  ;)

Sienfeild? Nah, that is more of a Bill Hicks or Lewis Black. Sienfeild would have been more:

And what is up with that Martin Luther guy! (crowd laughing for no reason) doesn’t he know they all believed that Jesus is THE WAY!  (crowd laughing at subtle sarcasm that really isn’t all that funny). ;D


But honestly, no I don’t think all the priests agreed. But they where able to put their petty differences aside (or talk it out), because they all believed that Jesus is THE WAY! There was no "Roman Catholic Church" before big marty. We were all one big, happy family. Now, we have split into different sects, like the Buddhism or Islam. Maybe I should e-mail Fr. Martin and tell him we all believe that Jesus is THE WAY! :D

You're a good man, Judgenot, you really are. Maybe you should give you friend Ollie a few pointers ;D I'm joking, you're cool, too, Ollie. ;D 8)

  Satin.

    This is not the only time that has had this Problem, even Paul had to fight this divesion of Christs Body.
        10   Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
11   For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12   Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13   Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14   I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15   Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16   And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17   For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

AMEN! JudgeNot, Ollie, and Forrest.

Brother Forrest, we've been missing you. It's nice to see a post from you.

I am also a member of the BODY OF CHRIST. My little brick and mortar building I go to has no denominational affiliation. From what I have seen and read lately, denominational affiliation doesn't define what the people believe anyway. You could probably have three "XYZ" churches in town with the identical name over the door with three different sets of doctrines.

JudgeNot, you are 100% correct about pre, mid, and post tribulation rapture having nothing to do with salvation. It certainly should have nothing to do with fellowship, and it shouldn't be anything to get upset or mad over. The same would be true of many other topics. I think that Brother Ollie already said it - Satan causes the divisions.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Myself I am a Bible Believer.

"...to testify the Gospel of the Grace of God." (Acts 20:24)

Interesting question and as a newbie to this site, I've been wondering the same.

I personally attend a church that is completely, 100% non-denominational.

Excellent post, JudgeNot!

AMEN!!  I find that when I try and look at things from other perspectives that I grow.  And not always do I end up going their way.  Often, I end up further grounded in why I believe what I believe.  I don't just believe because I'm told to.  I believe because I've asked God "why", in faith, and have been taught.   :)

BTW...I'm a independant, fundamental, militant, separatist, evangelical, orthodox Bapticostal.


 ;D

Yikes!  Sounds like a cult! (http://www.click-smilies.de/usersmilies/einzelusersmilies/Benny_monkeysmilies.gif)

 ;D

I belong to no denomination.  I am an Eastern Orthodox Christian.  

Naaah.  The cultists would be the independant, fundamental, militant, separatist, neo-evangelical, orthodox Bapticostals.   ;D :D

Sorry Nick - if it has a name that sets it apart from everyone else, it is a denomination.  (Isn't it????)

Oooohhh!  Sorry!  I must be slightly dyslexic...

(Or is that ylthgils cixelsyd????)

 ;D

Remove "Eastern Orthodox" from in front of Christian and the denominator is gone.

It was not Martin as he pleaded with his followers to wear Christ's name and to God give the glory, not his name or to glorify the man Luther. Well we know how that turned out. Do we not?

However it probably was not the Lutherans that coined the phrase, "denomination".

Very difficult to understand all this denominating thing and being identified with all kinds of names other than the saviour Jesus Christ and being known as "Christian" and "Christian" only rather than adding other names to this identity.

I understand what you are saying in your post. I have done much of the same in my search and studies. However it turns me off when someone says, "I am Lutheran", I am Baptist", or "I am Methodist", or "I am Roman Catholic", or "I am Orthodox", etc. etc.. Why not just Christ's. Christians are not of these man's identities. God does not reveal this. Why not identify with our Christ and Him only. So my search is for those congregations that only identify with Jesus Christ and are members of His body, "Christians" only with the Bible as their only revealed complete authority from God.

However God and His Christ will make the final judgements, so I make no judgements on those that identify and wear men's names as they do believe in Jesus Christ which is the faith that saves and it is by their fruits that they are known and rewarded by their works.

The Bible teaches that all the Glory should be to God through His Son, Jesus Christ. In everything we do, say, and think.
Therefore denominating is hard to fathom in thought.

Thanks for your reply.

In Christian love,
Ollie

AMEN BROTHER OLLIE!

You said it in a beautiful and Biblical way. Thank you Brother.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Ollie - I read you and understand fully, and as I said, I agree.
(But I won't change a word of my post.)  :)

I will not tune someone out or ignore them or not fellowship with them because they personally identify with Baptists or with Catholics.  I don't introduce myself as anything but a Christian, but if someone else does I won't condemn them (not that you have - I've never read anything you've written that condemns anyone).
However, I don't believe "one church" will be truly "one church" until we are living in His theocracy.  (Which can't be too soon for me!)

Brother JudgeNot,

I think that you and Ollie are both singing the same tune, just on a different key. I know that neither one of you would tune someone out because they claimed to belong to a certain denomination. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I think that you are saying brothers and sisters of various denominations can fellowship together, regardless of differences, if they have Jesus Christ in their heart as their Lord and Saviour. I think that Ollie is saying if we have Jesus Christ in our heart as our Lord and Saviour, we don't have any differences.

Love In Christ,
Tom

I was raised as a baptiist.I have been an Evangelis for
seven years.

I always was tone deaf...  I can't even carry a harmonica in my pocket. (Carry a tune - get it?)   ;D

The reason everyone at the church I attend worships so loudly is to drown me out...

 

Brother JudgeNot,

 ;D  I got it. I'm only allowed to sing in the shower when nobody is home. Then, the dogs are the only ones that complain. They even sometimes join in.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Changing is not necessary. Your post is ok for me as is. I understand your thoughts and have compassion for them.

I understand this also. All who have this gift of faith in God's Son through the gift of God's grace shall be saved, but not as a denominated what have you, but as a Christian.

The Bible teaches the unity of the church is in existence and the way to this unity is simply revealed in the scriptures. We always have man in His own thoughts thinking he has a better way to it than God.

  Jesus is ruling now. He has all power and authority now.
However it can't be too soon until He comes for us and we shall be as He is.

Ollie

 :)
Ollie - I'd give you a flower, but I don't know where you live.
That's okay - the only flower I can afford is a dandylion. (But they sure are purdy!)    :)

Yours in Jesus!
JN

I come from an Anglican background.

But I do not identify as Christian any longer.

Why not?

Just not.

AMEN  Amen

I'm very sorry to hear that.

Sure.

It's unfortunate that you care so little about yourself that you can't understand that others care about you.
Even more saddening is that you don't understand how much Christ loves you.

I neither receive nor bring to a fundamentalist table.

Oh, dear! There have been several complaints in our church about the loud music. So this is the reason for it?? (Will they turn the volume down if I promise to sit quietly?)

;D

I was raised Catholic, now attend a Inter-denominational church for fellowship.  

i am a seventh day adventist and  have been all of my 15 years  basically i  go by everything in the bible  and i am tolerant to other  dominations (including jews)  i also agree with several post that we are all the body of christ i am proud to be a child of christ




-kay

Most of the various churches I've attended have been Pentecostal or very similar. I've also visited a Baptist church a few times. I guess I would call myself Pentecostal, but most importantly I want to be a true believer. If my 'denomination' started teaching things that are obviously incorrect, I would follow the doctrines of God rather than the doctrines of men. I hold myself accountable to God's Word, not the bylaws and teachings of some church.

Hi MissInnocent,

Welcome to Christians Unite forums.

That is an excellent attitude to take as denominations are nothing more than tags and labels made by man. Denominational doctrines are nothing more than the teachings of men. It is the doctrines in the word of God that should be all that matters.

I look forward to seeing more of your posts and having some great fellowship in Christ with you.

Hi everybody!   I wholeheartedly agree that there is one body, the body of believers, but that doesn't explain why there are still so many different denominations.  There are dozens of different denominations just in the small suburb I live in; it must be very confusing to non-Christians. Also, it worries me that church after church seems to be caving in to the greater society and allowing women pastors, which I think is unBiblical.  And the government has been meddling in religious issues in the name of 'equality issues', and it may not be long before churches are ordered to hire women pastors.  Then I will have to look for a denomination that stands firm, despite the cost.

There are many different denominations due to mankind insisting on making their own doctrines instead of teaching and holding to the doctrines of God. It is that simple. Yes, the condition of many of our churches today is quite sad and as God has told us things will become much worse, not just in the churches but in the world as a whole. This is the meaning behind the words "for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first" and "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears".

I am only a Bible believer (KJV_NKJ_NASV)word by word.all of it.(no add and no taking out)
Pastor Roger what denomination does that make me.?

Not a denomination.

That makes you my SISTER IN CHRIST Def!!!!  God Bless... Love you!

Actually I grew up Southern Baptist and my leanings still are towards those doctrines and teachings.  As I have gotten older and started questioning things like why I believe the way I believe or what I truly think a particular verse or passage means, I have joined a church that is non-denominational.  I still find myself cringing when I see people raising their hands in praise or when the arrangement for old hymns are changed to a more contemporary style but I am working on that.  I have never believed that my beliefs on doctrine were necessarily the only way to worship, it was just the way I chose to worship.  I guess you could say that I am still pretty conservative in the way I choose to worship, but I would never tell anyone that they are wrong in the way worship unless of course it is obviously not Biblical.  I figure it is not my place to judge one way or the other.

Hello StrikeToWin
Well i close the door of my room (in my spirit  or my house)
I prostrate at the foot of the cross in the Glorified Christ and hide myself in God and let the Holy spirit speak for me..
Glory Glory to the Son Of the Living God.
To God be all the glory.
for God so loved the world(John 3:16 GLORY.
Glory for the Cross thank you Jesus Christ for what you done for me.
It is finish.
 Come Lord Jesus come.  Amen
Love in Jesus Def

I don't think Denominations matter,they've been a tool to separate the Christians into groups & divide them.Some Christians have not liked other Christians JUST because they are a different Denominate. Denominations are a trick of the Devil(my opinion of course) To divide & conqeur.



                           Yours in Yeshua,
                           Curious

 I am with the body of Christ , but consider my self an dispensationalist, Acts 9, per-mil , per-tri and  align myself with people like C R Stam.

Hello Dan P,

We have quite a bit of material from Pastor Stam on the forum. He's a strong man of GOD, and I agree with the vast majority of what he teaches. The critical issues of today are Salvation issues. This is mainly because there are great hosts of people who are lost. Differences on the timing or sequence of the RAPTURE don't mean anything to the lost. My personal belief is that the RAPTURE could be at any moment, and it will happen before the Tribulation Period. However, this is not a basis or bar of fellowship. In other words, MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH WHICH IS THE BODY OF CHRIST will be spending eternity together, regardless of when the RAPTURE happens. There will also be many other differences of non-Salvation issues that will be left behind when we go HOME. One large groups of things that will be left behind is man's denominations, tags, and labels. In the end, it will boil down to something extremely simple:  we either do or we don't BELONG TO CHRIST.

Love In Christ,
Tom


1:  Romans 3:10 NASB  as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD; ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."

2:  Romans 3:23  NASB  for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

3:  Romans 5:12  NASB  Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned--

4:  Romans 6:23  NASB  For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

5:  Romans 1:18  NASB  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

6:  Romans 3:20  NASB  because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

7:  Romans 3:27  NASB  Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith.

8:  Romans 5:8-9  NASB  But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.

9:  Romans 2:4  NASB  Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?

10:  Romans 3:22  NASB  even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;

11:  Romans 3:28  NASB  For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

12:  Romans 10:9  NASB  that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

13:  Romans 4:21  NASB  and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform.

14:  Romans 4:24 NASB  but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, as those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,

15:  Romans 5:1  NASB  Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

16:  Romans 10:10  NASB  for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

17:  Romans 10:13  NASB  for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

Most would call me a ulta-dispensationist, but I refer to myself a Pauline dispensationist per 1 Tim 1;4 WHICH SAYS  ; last part of v4 reads ; rather than godly edifying , whiich is in faith.  The word edifying is not in the Greek text and should read ; neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies which minister questions , rather than Gods dispensation which is in faith. We should examine to see if we are in the faith, so to be Pauline we should be dispensatioists, this does.'t mean that you are not saved if you are not dispensational.

Hello Dan P,

I prefer to avoid man's labels and tags and just say that I'm a sinner saved by God's Grace through faith in JESUS CHRIST. The backbone of the GOOD NEWS for Salvation was revealed by GOD to the Apostle Paul, and I give thanks for that. The REAL and LIVING substance of that GOOD NEWS is JESUS CHRIST.

Love In Christ,
Tom

 

I responded to a similar comment in another thread on this same verse. The original Greek word, oikonomia, can be translated to mean dispensation in English however if we look at the context of this verse another translation that is more correct is the word edifying, which means to "build up" which is "also another meaning of the Greek word oikonomia. This is the reason for the first part of this verse "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies". We can also see this in the verses prior and following this one that this is exactly what is meant here. We must be careful in how we use the Greek language to attempt to bring out different doctrines.


1Ti 1:4  Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.



Amen!

I have noticed that you have made this statement twice now. Would you care to elaborate on this?

[size=10pt]Well in the Newbie thread where you post about yourself, I figured it relevant.   Here I just simply answered the question.[/size]

Hello Scotty,

Stereotyping and assumptions are logical and natural when someone tries to make an issue out of things like this. Attaching "don't" to the issue becomes an invitation to "do". Very few of us here pay any attention to tags, labels, denominations, and traditions of men. Instead, we have the Holy Bible, and our fellowship is in CHRIST. Our primary purpose here is the distribution of the GOOD NEWS - THE GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD. We don't work for any man-made brick and mortar churches, rather for the ONE CHURCH not made with human hands - THE CHURCH WHICH IS THE BODY OF CHRIST. CHRIST Himself is the HEAD. Every member must be Born Again before they can enter, so there are NO pew warmers.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Ephesians 1:18-23 NASB I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

Hello Scotty,

It wasn't one of our regulars who started this thread. If I remember correctly, the person who started this thread was the return of a previously banned user who got banned again. Typically, a question like this is an invitation to argue. Some like to argue and some don't. This one is almost like asking "what division are you?"

Love In Christ,
Tom

 

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I'm in the Northwest Division...unless you're in my head then there is actually no telling what division you're in or what division I'm in at any given time that you might be in one of my divisions.  Sometimes you might be in the same division as me, myself and I, in which case you'd be in a very crowded division which might cause an urgent urge to divide again and move into a different division.  Of course this all debateable.

lol ...  then there are those that are in all the divisions all at the same time. It think it is one of those 57 states that Obama mentioned ...  The State of Confusion.

I think I've been there!  (http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x125/luvmarley_bucket/cid_006701c66bbe0d2562b00900a8c0Dis.gif)

All I can say is it sure sounds like a lot of divisions goin' on in your division - AND dividin' as we speak - BOTH in your division and in your head. The way I hear it, folks don't know how to multiply in your division of the division of the division of the division - SO, many of the groups are gettin' down to one.   ;D  OK - Now it's time to sing, and let's see how many appreciate it -  ONE is the loneliest number . . . . . . . . . . I understand that everyone knows this old song.     :P    ;D    8)    :o   What's left for us to do except all start our own division.

 ;D   Do I understand what was said above?

 

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You had me hanging on every word!  (http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn179/plggf/smilies/frusty.gif)

No need to get that desperate over it.  :D

Ya'll hav'ta remember that I live in Judge Roy Bean Territory. We clear out when we see ROPES. They literally DID hang on every word.

Ahh ... Judge Roy Bean, the liberals friend.   :D :D

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Is this what's called: "Being at the end of your rope?"

 ;D   YES - That's it!

Those were the good old days - a gallows within feet of every courtroom.   :o   ;D

Ahhhh Yes.  And those picnic lunches.    (http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m136/freaknm3/YOGI---BOOBOO.jpg)

With a Pic-A-Nic Basket.

Hey BooBoo!

Yep, I got quite a few BooBoo's.   :D :D :D

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 :o :o

I am currently of an independent Bible church with a dispensational viewpoint, and I also am a member of the Salvation Army.  I do not get steeped up on denomination but on Jesus Christ.

Non Denominational and Non organized church
attender.

Strictly home fellowship member and WELL pleased
as such....  ;D

In answer to "What denomination are you?" I say I am a person not a denomination. I ask how could one person be an entire denimonation?

lol you're funny pob

I don't claim any denomination.

Wow. All these labels are confusing  :(


I think I'll just say I'm a struggling Christian

Amen! That is the best way to go.

I am new here in the forum, God Bless to all. My denomination?  My username is my denomination. ;)

Amen!

2Co 5:17  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

My family were all Baptist and so was I untill God called me to Preach, and then I had to leave the church so I could preach his word.
Now I am just a child of the king, a solider in his Army going into this world and telling folks what Jesus has done for me.

 :) just a late entry from a newbie, i read the first page but skipped to here so, 70x7  :P if i tread on any toes.

A denomination is just a name, its whats inside that counts. I used to dislike the use of names untill i saw that a name allows me to know where an idea or statement had originated from, and therefore who should be accredited or discredited.
Paul said "follow me as i follow Christ", and in my walk i have learnt that some names teach things that are bettter avoided and others are helpful. However if i repeat their teaching, it is dishonest if i do not also give credit to the author.

I.E A famous preacher/revivalist proved by his theology (sin is voluntary), his ministry (1/2 million souls won) and life (blameless till death), that God will and does send revival when we fulfill His conditions 2 chron 7:14, and so i now trust the name of this preacher. But others also who teach that sin is inherited from Adam (i.e born sinful), and sin reigns in their churches, ministries and lives, those i have learnt to avoid unless they are open to repentance.

So you see names are useful and sometimes those that wish to remain anominous just want to hide behind their anomiity. " he who seperates himself wants to go his own way" Proverbs.... sorry cant remember where it is.

Hello JCISGD,

I don't pay much attention to what men teach because GOD'S WORD is the only truth. In the situation you're talking about, GOD'S WORD is very clear in many portions of Scripture about sin. It wouldn't be the teaching of man, rather the teaching of GOD. As a sample, you might want to read Romans 5. All men sin and all men are born under the curse of sin and death. This is the inheritance from Adam, and GOD'S WORD makes this exceptionally clear. No man has any righteousness of his own, and this is just one reason why we are in desperate need of a LORD and SAVIOUR.

Love In Christ,
Tom


1 John 1:8-10 NASB  8  If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.  9  If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

1:  Romans 3:10 NASB  as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD; ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."

2:  Romans 3:23  NASB  for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

3:  Romans 5:12  NASB  Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned--

4:  Romans 6:23  NASB  For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

5:  Romans 1:18  NASB  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

6:  Romans 3:20  NASB  because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

7:  Romans 3:27  NASB  Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith.

8:  Romans 5:8-9  NASB  But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.

9:  Romans 2:4  NASB  Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?

10:  Romans 3:22  NASB  even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;

11:  Romans 3:28  NASB  For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

12:  Romans 10:9  NASB  that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

13:  Romans 4:21  NASB  and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform.

14:  Romans 4:24 NASB  but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, as those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,

15:  Romans 5:1  NASB  Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

16:  Romans 10:10  NASB  for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

17:  Romans 10:13  NASB  for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

Hi Tim, thanks for the welcome on other post.

The proof is in the taste(fruit) of the pudding, not in the looks (various interpretations of it).

Every man thinks they interperet the scriptures correctly, but truth is proven by her children. If we deny the teaching that produced the fruit, then we will be ever reinventing the wheel.
Im not talking about so called numbers of salvations, but genuine revival, where sinners in the work place and taverns felt the conviction of sin without any preacher, and crawled into churches to find relief and obtained peace with God through Jesus Christ.
Im talking about whole cities being 80 % converted to God, and taverns, dance halls, theatres and police were out of work due to lack of demand, not through protest or law enforcement.

Please dont think you convince anyone by quoting scripture alone. True all scripture is God breathed and useful for teaching and correction, but quoting does not prove it has been rightly divided. God bless. Arthur

This isn't a matter of rightly dividing or interpretation, rather a clear and bold message from GOD'S WORD. The only way it could be different would be to throw out GOD'S WORD and use something in the place of the Bible. You might want to read Genesis 3 for a start. Again, I'm not interested in the teachings of men, especially when GOD'S WORD is so blunt and clear on so many issues. This is one of those issues. I could give you a large list of exceptionally clear portions of Scripture, but it doesn't appear that's what you want. I'll believe the Bible, but you're welcome to believe whatever you want to. If you want other portions of Scripture, just ask.

2 Corinthians 4:1-18 ASV  1  Therefore seeing we have this ministry, even as we obtained mercy, we faint not:  2  but we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by the manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.  3  And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled in them that perish:  4  in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn upon them.  5  For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake.  6  Seeing it is God, that said, Light shall shine out of darkness, who shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.  7  But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the exceeding greatness of the power may be of God, and not from ourselves;  8  we are pressed on every side, yet not straitened; perplexed, yet not unto despair;  9  pursued, yet not forsaken; smitten down, yet not destroyed;  10  always bearing about in the body the dying of Jesus, that the life also of Jesus may be manifested in our body.  11  For we who live are always delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus may be manifested in our mortal flesh.  12  So then death worketh in us, but life in you.  13  But having the same spirit of faith, according to that which is written, I believed, and therefore did I speak; we also believe, and therefore also we speak;  14  knowing that he that raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also with Jesus, and shall present us with you.  15  For all things are for your sakes, that the grace, being multiplied through the many, may cause the thanksgiving to abound unto the glory of God.  16  Wherefore we faint not; but though our outward man is decaying, yet our inward man is renewed day by day.  17  For our light affliction, which is for the moment, worketh for us more and more exceedingly an eternal weight of glory;  18  while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Baptist. I was raised with a baptist church.
I grew up attending Sunday school.
And I believe that we have a great discipline.

Greetings in Christ Jesus,

Colossians 2: 8

Hello Seasquall,

I see this is your first post, so WELCOME!


I sincerely hope that you enjoy Christians Unite, and I look forward to having fellowship with you.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Hi seasquall, and welcome to Christians Unite forum.

Thank you for the welcome, Dream & Tom. I'll be getting involved in the discussions as much as time allows. Again, appreciate the welcome.
May Christ be your path.
   Greg

Do you lip-sync in church like me?

I've recently joined a Mennonite church. Very bible based, lots of love for The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and each other.

I just don't sing very loud. I was actually kidding some and don't believe that I sing all that bad.