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Title: Was it right?
Post by: LeeH on April 16, 2004, 06:01:27 PM
Should true christians have watched the passion of Christ?


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: Warrior For Christ on April 16, 2004, 06:09:54 PM
Should true christians have watched the passion of Christ?

I would say no.


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: LeeH on April 16, 2004, 06:17:16 PM
Why? On what theory do you base that?


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: aw on April 18, 2004, 11:05:19 PM
Personally, I call it a HOLY movie. The reports are overwhelming that God is being glorified because of it.

aw


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: smartinez1984 on April 19, 2004, 08:45:58 AM

I would say no.

Interesting, albeit vague, answer. Why not? I saw it and will be seeing it again. As a Christian, I would recommend it and HAVE been recommending it to all, Christians  & non-Christians alike. On what basis should I quit dooig so?

-Samson


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: Raphu on April 19, 2004, 01:31:52 PM
I saw the movie, and it was very powerful witness to the verse in Isaiah about how the Lord's visage was marred more than any other man's, but I can understand concerns about imagery possibly taking something from instead of adding to the Lord's sacrifice for us.
I wonder myself about us having graven images shown to us in modern the fashion of 60 frame per second (is that the frame rate?), which would include all movies and TV.
Now I just wonder and do not condemn or I'd be condemning myself. Other opinions?

Isaiah 52:14  As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

Exodus 20:4  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: jenn on April 19, 2004, 09:20:21 PM
its really up to you

 for the most part its biblical.


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: darby on April 20, 2004, 11:20:09 AM
I would recommend the movie, but it isn't necessary or anything to see it.  Our perceptions can become dulled when we hear about the same thing over and over, and this movie sort of reminds you of how terrible crucifixions really were.


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: MalkyEL on April 24, 2004, 02:58:17 PM
Mel Gibson presented the movie to the public as a Catholic movie based on the Eucharist [mass], the 14 stations of the cross, and is Marion in theology [Mary as "Queen of Heaven", the "Eternal Virgin", and "Mother of God"].

The scenes in the movie come from the visions, apparitions, and prayers of 3 mystic nuns - Anne Catherine Emmerich, St Bridget [Brigitta of Sweden] and Mary of Agreda.

The movie is not based on Scripture, but on these visions and on Catholic theology.  Jesus said that no good fruit could come from an evil or corrupt tree.  The Jesus of this movie is crucified over and over again by the celebration of the mass.

Is this the same Jesus that is in the Bible?

check out the movie from a Scriptural perspective:

http://www.seekgod.ca/index.htm


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: His_child on April 25, 2004, 06:01:15 PM
My husband and I saw The Passion because it was so highly encouraged by many well know Evangelical Christians.
Although we knew that Mel is a Catholic, we did not expect to see that much Catholicism in the movie.

My husband grew up Catholic and when we go visit his family, we usually attend mass with them (just as they attend our Protestant church when they come to visit us.)
I have been to mass probably 35-40 times over the last 9 years of our marriage.

I learned more about Catholicism in The Passion than I did in all those times that I attended mass.
Knowing the deceptions in the Catholic church, it alarms me that well-known Evangelicals, who are supposedly very well educated in doctrinal issues, so freely promoted the movie.

I do not feel that The Passion is Biblically accurate, however, I do not think that Christians are good or bad based on their decision to see or not see this movie.
After all, it's just a movie.


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: MalkyEL on April 25, 2004, 06:27:53 PM
justme,

I find it troubling however; that churches all over bought out entire time blocks at theatres to watch the movie and many others gave away 1000's of tickets.  The movie was billed as an evangelistic tool - the best in 2000 years [must have forgotten the Bible  :-\].   Plus the Christian Leaders were promoting it and urging people to go see it.  Many Christians have said that if you don't go to see it, you are not a Christian.

Now doesn't that seem odd?  It is a hollywood production, plus it's loaded with mysticism and divination.  Yet, Christians find it perfectly fine to bring unbelievers to a movie to tell them about Jesus. Just when you think you've seen it all . . .  ??? ::) :-X


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: His_child on April 25, 2004, 06:33:27 PM
Malky- I agree with what you've said. However, I do not think that one is a good or bad Christian based on their decision to see or not see a movie.

What gets me is how many Christians claiming this movie brought them closer to God. It's just a movie!

We must realize that the Book is always better than the movie. However, in this case the movie wasn't that closely based on the Book.

I'm curious to see where Mel will go from here?
Will he continue down this path?
Or will he go back to making movies where he is swearing, adultering, etc?


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: MalkyEL on April 25, 2004, 06:39:44 PM
Well . . . . money talks as they say and so far the movie has grossed over 500 mil.  There is already talk of a sequel and you can bet that the Christian community will embrace it fully.  Mel has become the newest "apostle of the gospel" - so much for discernment  . . . ::)   :'(


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: His_child on April 25, 2004, 10:35:30 PM
Well . . . . money talks as they say and so far the movie has grossed over 500 mil.  There is already talk of a sequel and you can bet that the Christian community will embrace it fully.  Mel has become the newest "apostle of the gospel" - so much for discernment  . . . ::)   :'(

Sad, but true.

I have been wondering if Evangelical's acceptance of The Passion and movies like this has anything to do with the RCC's envolvment with the World Council of Churches?


Title: Re:Was it right?
Post by: MalkyEL on April 26, 2004, 12:13:24 AM
Absolutely - at the risk of sounding out in left field - the church has been prepped to become part of this for a long time.  The ground work has been laid.  Look at all the major Christian orginizations involved in CNP and linked with Moon and accepting monies from him - he has proclaimed himself to be Jesus Christ.  Very sad situation all around, and Christians are very unknowledgeable about it all and seemingly do not care.  

When you tell people and document that Leaders like Billy Graham are 33rd degree masons, you are accused of all manner of things.  Christians do not want to accept the fact that the church is in deep trouble and headed for a one world religion faster than a speeding bullet.  The Passion is just a precursor for total acceptance of all religions - this is what Mel is preaching - all roads lead to heaven, but catholics have a better chance than anyone else.