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Title: Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Whitehorse on February 23, 2004, 09:27:01 PM
Does anyone here use trioxane? Or do you use Esbit tabs or just the mre heaters? I've heard the trioxane is only toxic if you ingest it, but is it toxic when it burns?

PS-this will be my first time using solid fuel. )I made my own stove which uses denatured alcohol.) How cleanly do the solid fuel tablets burn?


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Symphony on February 24, 2004, 12:03:29 AM

we wuz issued these here little foil wrappers; inside a pill the size of a chocolate covered cherry; put that little bad boy under a homade c-rat can, upside down, touch it with a match; it would burn hot for 'bout three minutes.  Never did know what it wuz.  Made that canned spam taste pert gud..

'got chiclets, cigarettes, pnut butter and crackers in them c-rats too, all tucked in thar reel nice like...


     :-X


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Whitehorse on February 24, 2004, 12:15:47 AM
Well, it wuz cheap. That's what it wuz.  :-X

Same wit aloominuhm. It givz yoo ayulzhymerz duhzees.





Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Symphony on February 25, 2004, 06:43:27 PM

Oh, Alzheimer's Disease!!    :P


Okay.  That took me a few minutes.  


     :-X


 


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablets
Post by: Whitehorse on February 25, 2004, 10:14:46 PM
Yep. Alzheimer's disease.  :-\


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Symphony on February 25, 2004, 11:32:47 PM


 :-\


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Whitehorse on February 27, 2004, 12:32:24 AM
Okay-Pepsi can stove it is, with denatured alcohol. Plus an electric burner with a really, really, really, really long extension cord, just in case too much heat comes up through the middle and we go for option number two! (Or people don't feel like cooking in the great outdoors.) Alas...then it will just be me?  :D


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Symphony on February 27, 2004, 08:15:56 PM

Those tab things we used didn't leave anything but a few ashes.  They burned white/blue hot.


I imagine the xtn. cord will keep you busy.   Why not just hike the trail beneath those high voltage power lines--the trail is ready made, and you'll have all the power you'll ever need, just for the climbing.  I hear there's no insulation on the wires.

Nope, seriously, I honestly don't know for a backpacker.  I guess trail regulations prohibit using any twigs and sticks, huh.

I'd probably go for what ever is easiest.  The tabs sound easiest.  

Speaking of easiest.  Why not just stay home??   :-X


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Coyote on March 12, 2004, 06:47:52 PM
I have used the military issue Trioxene, and it works pretty good, I always use good ventilation. I've found sterno is real good as well... learn from my mistake.. let the can cool before you grab it.


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Whitehorse on March 12, 2004, 06:53:56 PM
Alas-we ended up sticking to traditional backpacker food instead of the MREs. Lighter and more variety. Hot water and Backpacker's Pantry. The stroganoff, of course, being the best. All good but the stew a little on the bland side for my taste.

And, it looks like all that research was for nothing. In the end I'll just keep using my homemade Pepsi can stove and denatured alcohol. The trioxane has an odor, and I'm guessing the MRE heaters can only be used with, well, Meals Ready to Eat. Which, we didn't use. We boiled water and add it to the goodies.

Did the tablets you used have a fishy smell? If so, I'm guessing trioxane. I don't think Esbits do, though.

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I imagine the xtn. cord will keep you busy.  Why not just hike the trail beneath those high voltage power lines--the trail is ready made, and you'll have all the power you'll ever need, just for the climbing.  I hear there's no insulation on the wires.

Hehe! Well, no climbing this time. Just bumming around in the Smokies and Everglades.


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Whitehorse on March 12, 2004, 06:58:10 PM
I have used the military issue Trioxene, and it works pretty good, I always use good ventilation. I've found sterno is real good as well... learn from my mistake.. let the can cool before you grab it.

Youchers! That would hurt!

I do like the idea of solid fuel-maybe for this summer. I don't particularly take a shining to liquid fuel; what if someone (me, for example) kicks over the stove...  ::)


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Symphony on March 12, 2004, 07:06:58 PM

Welcome back, Whitehorse.   ;D


     :)


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Whitehorse on March 12, 2004, 07:21:38 PM
Why, thank ya! :)


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: tony on March 17, 2004, 11:42:52 AM
Don't know much about cooking... although I like hiking/camping... I just take things that don't need cooking... makes life... sooooo much easier...  fruits, veggies, granola bars, nuts, pop-tarts, pretzels... well, you get the idea...  Home cooked meals are best enjoyed when Mother cooks them...lol... ;D

Your Brother in Christ,

Tony


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Whitehorse on March 17, 2004, 06:13:49 PM
Oh, the hiking food is so easy. It's dehydrated so it's lighter to carry. You just boil water for the hot meals, add it to the contents of a pouch, and let it sit covered for ten minutes. That's it. The stroganoff is the best. I like how that tastes. And the chicken with rice, too. The desserts you just add cold water, and you can just add it straight into the pouch. Saves cleaning another dish. The  buttermilk pancakes, on the other hand, I'm perfectly happy to let someone else cook over the open flame of a Pepsi can stove. I've never been a master at it over controlled heat, so I'll be happy to wash the dishes and compliment the cook on that one.

The MREs...well, they're "ready to eat," but of course you'd still will want to heat them. Unless you like cold turkey slabs.

Amen to the pretzels and snackins! I love fresh fruit on day hikes. I'll stick with dehydrated for multi-day backpacking, though. Oooh-granola bars and pop tarts! Yumm! And please don't forget the M and Ms! I also like to take fruit leather. Sweet, but light. :)


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: tony on March 18, 2004, 09:26:25 AM
Whitehorse,

I can burn toast…  :-\and yes… boiling water can even prove difficult at times…  :-[thank God for towels!!...lol…  ;D “Fruit leather”… it has been soooo long since I have had any of that… I am thinking back to the elementary school days…fruit roll ups… well now you’ve got me craving fruit leather Whitehorse...


Tony


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Whitehorse on March 20, 2004, 12:37:21 AM
Amen on the boiling water! Once I was using a stove where you could control the heat. I boiled the water, stirred in the contents of the pouch, and then "turned the stove off." (In reality I had turned the knob the wrong way and didn't realize as I went about my business, until I smelled the smoke.) :)


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: tony on March 22, 2004, 02:05:15 PM
smokes and flames from the wrong places can be rather entertaining... but somewhat risky ;D


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: JudgeNot on March 22, 2004, 03:36:53 PM
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flames from the wrong places can be ... somewhat risky
(quote slightly edited)

That's what the Bible says!  ;D


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: WolfBrother on March 22, 2004, 04:24:43 PM
First post - found the forum while searching for an inexpensive source for Trioxane tabs.

Have used Trioxane (and the little brother Hexamine tabs) in the field a number of times.

You don't want to use these in an unventilated area - Carbon Monoxide for one.  Other by products from the burning aren't good for you to breath either.

I find they're great for heating up water/food.  Use them in the real or improvised stoves I've seen mentioned in prior posts.  Generally, I've used a canteen cup on a couple of rocks or put the tab in small hole in the ground.



Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Whitehorse on March 22, 2004, 04:52:53 PM
Oh, you want cheap trioxane tablets? Go for The Sportsman's Guide-the very last catalog they sent out. Ultracheap in bulk. Yes-putting them in the ground saves on the esbit stove. Shaves a bit of weight off. The aluminim ones aren't that bad, but the stainless are more expensive and heavier.

Hope you enjoy CU. We've got some great people here. Feel free to also add an introduction in the newcomer's forum so everyone can say hi. May I ask how you got your screen name?


Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: WolfBrother on March 23, 2004, 10:46:26 AM
How I got my screen name.

It is a buckskinner/mountain man/old West/Native American type name I use on forums.  



Title: Re:Hikers/Campers Trioxane tablest
Post by: Whitehorse on March 23, 2004, 05:51:08 PM
That's cool.

If you want it, here's more specific information about trioxane tablets:

The Sportsman's Guide
Catalog number 12410
Page 44
Prices: $7.97 for 36 (catalog number CX4C-77800)
             $24.97 for 144 bars (# CX4C-77801)
             $99.97 for 750 bars (# CX4C-77802)

Additional discount if you are a member of Buyer's Club.

Phone number: 1.800.888.3006