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Title: Jn 20:23
Post by: WillGreek on February 20, 2004, 11:45:44 PM
AphiEmi/krateO – Opposite meaning – Release/Retain


Jn 20:22 v_ 2aor.act.imp.2.pl. "You all take holy spirit."
And saying this, He exhales and is saying to them,  "Get holy spirit!"

Jas 5:10 v_ 2aor.act.imp.2.pl. "Brothers, you all take...”
Be taking, my brethren, the example of *suffering evil and *patience you |have~: the prophets who speak in the name of the Lord.

Jn 20:23 [av - A Greek particle indicating that something can or could occur on certain conditions, or by combination of certain fortuitous causes.]

By combination of holy spirit and you all if everyones sins you might release their sins have been being released.

If you should be forgiving anyone's sins, they have been forgiven them.

[av - A Greek particle indicating that something can or could occur on certain conditions, or by combination of certain fortuitous causes.]

By combination of holy spirit and you all if everyones sins you might be retaining their sins have been being retained.

If anyone's you should be holding, they are held."

Jn 20:23 v_ 2aor.act.sub.2.pl. - v_ perf.pas.ind.3.pl.
If you should be forgiving anyone's sins, they have been forgiven them.

Jn 20:23 v_ pres.act.sub.2.pl. - v_ perf.pas.ind.3.pl.
If anyone's you should be holding, they are held."

Jn 20:23 v_ 2aor.act.sub.2.pl.
If you should be forgiving anyone's sins, they have been forgiven them. If anyone's you should be holding, they are held."

Jn 16:32 v_ 2aor.act.sub.2.pl.
Lo! the hour is coming and has come, that you should be scattered, each to his own, and you may be leaving Me alone. And I am not alone, for the Father is with Me.

Mt 18:35 v_ 2aor.act.sub.2.pl.
 "Thus shall My *heavenly *Father also be doing to =you, if each one should not be pardoning his *brother, from your *hearts."

Mt 6:15 v_ 2aor.act.sub.2.pl.
Yet if you should not be forgiving *humanmen their *offenses, neither will your *Father be forgiving your *offenses.

Mt 6:14 v_ 2aor.act.sub.2.pl.
 "For if you should be forgiving *humanmen their *offenses, your *heavenly *Father also will be forgiving you.

Acts 18:6
Now at their resisting~ and blaspheming, _shaking~ out his *garments, he said toward them,  "Your *blood be on your *head! Clear am I! From *now on I shall |go~ intoto the nations."

Acts 13:46
_Being bold~, both *Paul and *Barnabas, say,  "To you first was it necessary that the word of *God be spoken. Yet, since, in fact, you are thrusting~ it away, and are judging yourselves not worthy of *eonian life, lo~! we are turning~ intoto the nations.



Title: Jn 20:23
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on February 21, 2004, 08:45:36 AM
Not forgiven unless we forgive:    
Matt.18:34,35;(KJV) 34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

We are to forgive because we are already forgiven:  

Eph.4:32;(KJV)  
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.




Title: Re:Jn 20:23
Post by: aw on February 23, 2004, 12:04:08 PM
That is correct. All of the believer's sins are ALREADY forgiven as they were the result of the Judgment at Calvary. To say any different is to question the efficacy and completeness of the sacrificial work of the Lamb of God who took away the sins of the world.

In light of the magnitude of His forgiveness toward us we forgiv those who sin aganst us. However, all sin is ultimately against God Himself.

aw


Title: Re:Jn 20:23
Post by: ollie on February 27, 2004, 08:23:14 AM
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