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Title: Discerning Future Events
Post by: benny balerio on July 08, 2011, 06:04:45 AM
The Psalms 83/Isaiah 17;1 will occur at the same time,..but not the Daniel 11 prophecy.
The Daniel 11 prophecy and the Psalms 83 scriptures of prophecy clash against each other.
The following are those involved in the Psalms 83 war,...and keep in mind that these have confederated together.
The tribes mentioned in Psalms 83 are the inner ring of Islamic nations that are today, preparing to attack Israel.
These nations are not involved in the Ezekial 38 battle.
Tents of Edom-Palestinians and So.Jordanians
Ishmaelites-Saudis(Ishmael father of arabs)
Moab-Palestinans and central Jordanians
Hagrites-Hagnarenes-Egyptians
Gebal-Hezbollah and No. Lebanese
Ammon-Palestinans and No.Jordanian
Amalek-Arabs of the Sinai area
Philistia-Hamas of the Gaza Strip
Tyre-Hezbollah and So. Lebanese
Assyria-Syrians and Northern Iraq's
I believe that Damascus Syria will be destroyed the same time as when Psalms 83 occurs.
Israel has a Motto towards their enemies...."NEVER AGAIN!!!"
It just so happens that these nations make up the land that is promised to Abrahams descendants,...this will consist of a small slice of Egypt,....All of Lebanon,...all of Syria.....Northern Iraq..... 1/3rd of Saudi Arabia....and all of Jordan(This explains the flight to petra and the mountainous region, when Israel flees in the A.O.D.)
(The Daniel 11 prophecy has it that Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand,while on the other hand we see that Edom, Moab and Ammon are involved in the fight against Israel,rather than being delivered by his hand.)
George,..this coming Psalms 83/Isaiah 17;1 war is going to result in a whole new geopolitical middle east.
Scripture seems to reveal the order of events.
1. Israel is regathered in the Land (Ezek 37:12; Isa 11:11,12; Deut
30:3-5).
2. Ancient cities are rebuilt and inhabited (Ezek 36:1-5, 8-10).
3. They meet Muslim/“Arab” resistance (Jer 49:16; Zeph 2:8; Ezek
25:12; 32:5; 36:2; Obad 1:10).
4. Israel establishes an army for defense—see also #10 (Ezek 36:6,7;
38:8).
5. Adjacent Muslim nations Confederate (Ps 83:1-8).
6. The Confederacy is committed to the destruction of Israel (Ps
83:1-5, 12).
7. War starts between the Confederacy and Israel (Jer 49:2, 8, 19).
8. Title regained: “My people Israel” (Hos 1:8-10; Rom 9:25,26;
Ezek 36:8-12).
9. Israel decisively defeats the Confederacy (Obad 1:9, 18; Ezek
25:13,14; Jer 49:10,20,21, 23-26; Isa 11:12-14;17:1; 19:16,17).
10. Israel has become “an exceedingly great army” (Ezek 37:10; Jer
49:21).
11. Israel takes prisoners of war (Jer 48:46,47; 49:3,6,11; Zeph 2:10,11).
12. The Region is reshaped (Isa 17:1; Jer 49:2, 10; Zeph 2:4).
13. Israel expands its borders (Obad 1:19; Jer 49:2; Isa 19:18,19).
14. Israel “dwells securely” in the Land (Ezek 38:10-12).
This, then, would seem to set the stage for the subsequent events of Ezekiel 38 and 39. If this view is correct, there may be a huge surprise ready to unfold that will totally restructure the Middle East!
The purpose of the Russian invasion is to take the spoil; the purpose of the Armageddon Campaign is to destroy the Jews.
The Lord calls for assistance in executing judgment on Gog (Eze. 38:21), while at Armageddon He is viewed as treading the winepress alone (Isa. 63:3-6).
Joel 2 is describing the Ezekiel 28 invasion.
Joel 3 is describing the Armageddon campaign.
The Hebrew words utilized for the Magog invaders goal to capture great spoil are, shalal gadol shalal. According to the definitions given in the New America Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries, these words can be translated successively to read, “Plunder the great spoil of the despoilers.” Despoil means to deprive someone of something valuable by force. (ii)
It suggests that the invaders are coming to plunder the spoils Israel previously captured from another. Along these lines, the widely respected eschatologist, Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum, teaches that the Magog invaders are coming to, “To take a spoil of a spoil.”
In the prior verse, Ezekiel 38:12, the prophet says the Magog invaders are coming after acquired, or gotten, cattle and goods. The Hebrew word is “asah” and suggests that Israel has acquired livestock and commercial goods externally, perhaps more so than developed them from their own natural resources and / or commercial endeavors.
If the enticing great spoil spoken of is acquired, more so than homegrown, then where does it originate? Zechariah 14:14 appears to hold an important clue in this regard. Apparently Israel acquires it from the Arab nations round about them.
“And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the (Arab) nations round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance. (Zechariah 14:14, ASV; emphasis added)
In the Joel 3 prophecy,.....1“In those days and at that time,
when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,
2I will gather all nations
and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat.a
There I will enter into judgment against them
concerning my inheritance, my people Israel,
for they scattered my people among the nations
and divided up my land.
The 7 year covenant that is to be confirmed has nothing to do with any agreement with the arabs,..since it is that all of Israels immediate inner ring neighbors will be destroyed by Israel(any day now)and the Lord destroys Russia and the outter ring of muslim nations slightly prior to the beginning of Daniels 70th week.
Obviously,....Joel 3 indicates that when the antichrist invaded the Holy City at the A.O.D.,...that he also redistributed the land among the arabs,..this would explain Daniel 11 prophecy.

Very shortly Israel is about to become the wealthiest nation on the earth as a result of the coming Psalms 83/Isaiah 17;1 war while all the other nations of the world will be in an economic crisses.
At this moment the E.U. is wanting Israel to come under it's umbrella,....a time is coming after the Ezekiel 38 battle that Israel will do exactly that,..and then Israel will have to adhere their laws with the E.U.Laws(Ten kings)
You see,...When the Lord was cruxified,.....The Sanhedrine was present and the temple and the mosiac law was active,....and Israel was under Roman Empire's umbrella of power.
We are coming again towards full circle......Today the Sanhedrin is back,....everything is ready for a third temple including the robes for the priests.
The E. U. desires Israel to come under it's umbrella of power.
The first 69 weeks was without the Bride and when the Lord was Cruxified,..it was as though time froze,...in which the clock will begin to tick off the last 7 years, when the "Fullness of the Gentiles" is complete.
The General time era of the rapture will occur sometime between now and shortly after the coming Psalms 83/Isaiah 17;1 war,..in which will result in Israel gaining much land,...and will carelessly believe that they are at peace,...this is a requirement for Ezekiel 38 which activates the Day of the Lord.
God Bless

 
 


Title: Re: Discerning Future Events
Post by: benny balerio on July 12, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
Very shortly Israel is about to become the wealthiest nation on the earth as a result of the coming Psalms 83/Isaiah 17;1 war while all the other nations of the world will be in an economic crisses.
At this moment the E.U. is wanting Israel to come under it's umbrella,....a time is coming after the Ezekiel 38 battle that Israel will do exactly that,..and then Israel will have to adhere their laws with the E.U.Laws(Ten kings)
You see,...When the Lord was cruxified,.....The Sanhedrine was present and the temple and the mosiac law was active,....and Israel was under Roman Empire's umbrella of power.
We are coming again towards full circle......Today the Sanhedrin is back,....everything is ready for a third temple including the robes for the priests.
The E. U. desires Israel to come under it's umbrella of power.
The first 69 weeks was without the Bride and when the Lord was Cruxified,..it was as though time froze,...in which the clock will begin to tick off the last 7 years, when the "Fullness of the Gentiles" is complete.
The General time era of the rapture will occur sometime between now and shortly after the coming Psalms 83/Isaiah 17;1 war,..in which will result in Israel gaining much land,...and will carelessly believe that they are at peace,...this is a requirement for Ezekiel 38 which activates the Day of the Lord.
God Bless

The reason that I reposted a section of the above post is that the following link affirms that what is coming in the future pertaining to Israel.

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=228926


Title: Re: Discerning Future Events
Post by: nChrist on July 12, 2011, 06:54:22 PM
Fascinating but perilous times - thanks for sharing. You're causing me to want to study Bible Prophecy again, something that I enjoy - and it blesses me because of God's Promises.