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Title: Where does the Body of Christ have its Beginning ?
Post by: dan p on September 16, 2010, 03:29:38 PM
Hi to all , and where the Body of Christ began is far and varied .

 Some say it began in Genesis  ,  Acts 2  ,  Acts 9 ,  Acts 11 , Acts 13 , or in Acts 28 !!

 Covenant Theology say that it began with Adam and Eve .

 Then , this is where the Majority are in Acts , with Pentecost and Hi-jack a Jewish Feast day , to promote the Body !!

 Then we have Acts 9 , which is my Position >

 Then there is a Dispenastionalist  in FLA . that holds to a Acts 11 position !

Then there are many that hold to an Acts 13 position .

 Then the last group are the Hyper or Acts 28 position .

 And this is why I hold to the Acts 9 position , and there is not a verse to support a mid-Acts position , because it is not scriptural position .   If we could ask Paul , "  where do you begin the Body of Christ "  would Paul say , it began in Mid-Acts ??  I do not think so !!

 In Rom 1:1 , Paul a slave of Christ Jesus , a called apostle  having been  SEPARATED  for God's gospel .

 The Greek word  APHORIZO  can be translated by 3  English words ;

 #1 , Separated
 #2 , Boundaries
 #3 , Limited

 Paul was separated to ONLY  preach the Gospel of God and  NOT  the gospel of the Kingdom .

 #1 , The word  Separated is in the Greek  Perfect  Tense  , which means  Past Action  with Continuing Results .

 For those who do not understand what the Perfect Tense means an good example is in John 19:30 .

 Jesus says  "  it is finished "  is in the Greek Perfect Tense also and means that his death is the Past Action and the Continuing Results are that He keeps of saving .  The Perfect Tense also means that He  will  NEVER  have to go back on the Cross and die again   FOR  ANYBODY  ELSE !!!

 This also means that Paul can   NEVER go back and be a Pharisee  again and teach the Law  , but preach the Gospel 0f God . Acts 20:24 !!

 This is also in the Passive Voice and this means that God is doing the the separation and not Paul .

 This is also is in the Indicative mood and that means Rom 1:1 is a  FACT .

 This means that the Body of Christ began the minute that Paul was saved , and that Paul was the First member of the Body of Christ .

 



 



Title: Re: Where does the Body of Christ have its Beginning ?
Post by: duval on December 14, 2010, 06:45:46 PM
But Dan, Paul didn't begin the body of Christ.

Best wishes
duval


Title: Re: Where does the Body of Christ have its Beginning ?
Post by: dan p on December 16, 2010, 06:03:27 PM
But Dan, Paul didn't begin the body of Christ.

Best wishes
duval

Hi duvel , and you have it right on and Rom 1:1  and  1 Tim 1:15and 16  and 1 Cor 15:8  are the proof texts !