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Allah is NOT the God of the Bible
Muhammad was not God's prophet
The Koran doesn't contain the words of God

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I heard on Michael Savage (the redneck radio dude) the other night that in England there are now more weekly attendees to mosques than to the Church of England...

Just as Christians have the duty to spread the gospel, 'they' have the mission of spreading Islam.

We say "please accept Jesus or run the risk of everlasting death."  

'They' say "convert to Islam now or I will kill you."

Whomever believes that God and Allah are the same is dangerously mistaken. Blaspheme.  

Just shows that Chick doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, as usual.   Allah is just the Arabic word for God; Arabic Christians call Him Allah.

1.  "please accept Jesus or run the risk of everlasting death."  is the worst of all reasons to come to Christ.
2.  Muslims don't say "convert to Islam now or I will kill you." in NWFP, Pakistan, let alone England.
3.  Christians have, in the past, effectively used similar threats.


Allah is just God in Arabic.  You're sentence translated into English reads "Whomever believes that God and God are the same is dangerously mistaken. Blaspheme."

Well, ebia, I guess if we all agreed on everything this forum would be no fun at all, huh.  8)

I guess you also believe Mohamed was a great prophet of "god" rather than a murderous pedophile?
 ;D

ebia, are you a nun, or are you living like nun.  ;D

Amen.

JudgeNot, ebia believes anything but the Word of God. I am sure she is into the new age teachings, and I know she believes muslims, mormons, JW's, the roman catholic religion, being queer, gets you to heaven. ;D

LOL how true.

Question: How do you know when a muslim, becomes a man?

An invitation for Muslim readers.

http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/

Many Christians accept the Muslim claim that we both worship the same God. They claim that they call him Allah, while we call him God. It is not unusual to hear Christian leaders make such statements. Bible societies have even gone so far as to use the name Allah in the Bibles they produce for Arab Christians.

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Go ask an Arab Christian what they call God. Do they use a Germanic word? or do they use their own native language?

Hmm, how was Mohammed a paedophile?
You don't seem too embracing towards islam. Why is that?

QUOTE Crusader: Many Christians accept the Muslim claim that we both worship the same God. They claim that they call him Allah, while we call him God. It is not unusual to hear Christian leaders make such statements. Bible societies have even gone so far as to use the name Allah in the Bibles they produce for Arab Christians.

I agree 100% Crusader, AAAAAAAAAAMEN!!!

Because he took pre-teen female children as wives.


Because islam misguides followers to convert people or kill them.  (That includes you, good friend.)  :)

I fail to see why it is a problem, personally. For arabic-speakers to use their own language in worship....
"God" is not a proper name, but a title, and changes depending on the language. Perhaps for some ex-Muslims it would be inadvisable to use the term "allah" for God, for it might cause them to stumble back into Islam, but for most, I don't see the problem.

Every language's term for God has been used by other religions after all.

 Posted on: February 15, 2004, 09:13:28 PM  
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Hmm, how was Mohammed a paedophile?  
 





Yes, but that was common practice all around the world at those times, wasn't it?
And also, could i please have a quote from the Q'ran about that please?
Please correct me if I'm wrong about this.
And what would be the problem if the Muslim God was the same as the Christian God? How can you be sure that the your God is the true God?
Just wondering...

P.S To any moderators- this is not meant to be rude or anything. i am merely making a point. Please don't take offense.
Thankyou

AMEN for the boldness of you all! Call it what it is. There is only 1 GOD. (Praise The Lord!!) His name is JESUS!! :)

lol on the red neck dude, I do like Savage though! :)

AMEN~

Just remember Christians, Allah is NOT the God of the Bible
Muhammad was not God's prophet The Koran doesn't contain the words of God.

AMEN!
A4C!
 ;D

The atheist,

I think that you almost set a record for the number of posts deleted on your first visit. You still need to read the rules again.

Islam denies that Jesus Christ is God, and we don't quote books from Islam here. Further, we don't defend or promote cults who deny that Jesus Christ is God.

It really wouldn't matter how polite you are, we don't allow the promotion or defense of alternative lifestyles, immoral behavior, cults who deny that Jesus Christ is God, and we certainly don't allow the mockery of Jesus Christ or the posting of cult material. This is a Christian Family Forum for people of all ages, including children. We don't provide any time or space for Islam, Voodoo, etc.

I can only assume that you knew Christians wouldn't be quoting from the books of Islam. If you didn't, you do now. If you want quotes, they will come from the Holy Bible. After all of the private messages to you about the forum rules and copies of your deleted posts, I really wasn't surprised that you want to debate the forum rules, but they are not subject to debate.

Moderator

Eph 6:13-18

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
KJV

 Thanks BEP

Oklahoma Howdy to Reba,

Sister, you are most welcome.

God's children need the armor of God more and more every day. I love the portion of Scripture you quoted. I feel sorry for many children today who are not brought up in the things of the Lord. It appears to have become popular to hunt Christians. Those with the stronger faith will stand and be able to resist the continual attack of the devil.

Sister, I think we all know that the persecution of Christians and attacks by the devil will become more and more frequent. They are trying to shove God out of anything public, and now they are hunting Christians in our private places devoted to worship and fellowship. May God give us the strength, courage, and wisdom to preserve our places of worship and our homes. We will find most of what we need in the diligent study of God's Word.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Although I have no evidence to back it up, I always figured "Allah" has the same origin as Elohim Yahweh (El-Yah) and is simply the Arabic version of it.

At the same time, the understanding Muslims have of "Allah" is radically different from the Judeo-Christian understanding of God. Although their name for God may have the same origin as ours, they don't worship the same God that Christians do.
 
Most importantly, although they admit Jesus was a prophet, they don't accept him as God come in the flesh - the idea is blasphemy to them. One of the most basic concepts of their faith is that there is only one god, Allah. They can't accept the concept of the Trinity and believe Christians worship three gods. Nor do they believe in Jesus' atoning sacrifice for sins. Islam is a works-based religion. Allah weighs ones' good works against the bad, and you can only hope to get to paradise.

In my opinion, Allah also seems to be a powerless god, demanding his followers sacrifice themselves for him. Islam also only seems to be able obtain and retain followers by force - one wonders how many would desert Islam if they had freedom of religion and could do so without fear of retaliation or being arrested. I suspect the Islamists know this and that fear is the primary reason behind the push for Islamic law and anti-conversion laws.

Our God wants people to come to him out of love and gratitude. It would be meaningless to force anyone to become or remain a Christian, as being a Christian is a heart decision and God knows the heart. God is a God of miracles and power, who doesn't need his followers to defend Him and doesn't demand they do so, though many do of their own free choice.

Rhys,
You and me will get along REAL good!  ;D

O BOY  ;D

 Amen

What about the crusades...

I'm pretty sure the pope spread christianity by force during the crusades...

Just stating the things I am learning in Western Civilization.

Hello Contra,

I see this is your first post. I sincerely hope you enjoy Christians Unite.



Force would get you lip service and outward appearances only. Jesus Christ will accept only those who believe, have faith, confess their sins, and ask HIM to come into their heart as their personal Lord and Saviour. A sword can't accomplish that.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Contra,

What did the crusades accomplish?

What did the conversion by the sword in Central/South America accomplish?

Was a the joyous welcoming into the fold?  
Or lip service covering imperialism?

From the Islam FAQ (not sure it's a reliable source for anyone wanting to actually learn about Islam):

Many Muslims believe in the Qur'an as a blind leap of faith. They really do not care if it is filled with mistakes and contradictions.

The irony may actually be killing me. ;)

 ;D

<:)))><

The rise of islam in the UK is staggering. Big cities like Manchester, Birmingham and London are full of muslims. The church is also in a very bad way here, full of liberalism and ecumenism. No suprise though I suppose.. in the days we live in.

How True :'(

Ps 118:24

24 This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
KJV

Indeed Reba :) I'm not miserable, just grieved at my countries lack of knowledge and hunger for God.

true :)

Hi Bern
As a fellow resident of the UK, i have to agree fully with you here about the church over here. Thats one of the reasons i like these forums as much as i do, where we can be encouraged and also hear some truths that we may not like to hear but none the less, still need to hear. Many churches are watering down doctrines, just to please man. But i really believe that if the Church was more honest and said what it knew to be right, people would repect it more and who knows, maybe people would start filling the pews again.

Joey

Brother Joey,

I think that you just spoke volumes about the problems of watering down God's Word. I read your post and immediately thought about huge problems in many churches. Many church goers today want to have their ears tickled and won't sit still for sound doctrine. Some churches are perfectly willing to make them happy just to fill up the church. In the meantime, people are suffering with the consequences of not hearing the undiluted WORD OF GOD. The consequences are the result of sin and disobedience. Hearing the WORD OF GOD is strong medicine from the GREAT PHYSICIAN, and it is timeless. Any pastor who replaces or neglects Bible messages with entertainment is harming people instead of helping them. Now, more than ever, we need HIS WORD full strength and undiluted.

Brother, the problems that you spoke of are also responsible for many people turning to Islam and other false doctrines that simply lead them further into darkness, snared by the devil for destruction.

Love In Christ,
Tom

1Corinthians 10:31  Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.